2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

[Mattya]

I think it would be silly to trade #9, Williams and #26 for anyone in this draft. This is the time when draft prospects get really overrated if you ask me. That is one hefty price and leaves us with very little tradeable assets after that. Maybe you guys just value Oladipo more than me. I love his game, but I don't think he is that good to sacrifice most of your major assets for. I think there are a few guys that are getting slept on a bit. If Zeller is at 9 I'm perfectly fine drafting him. I have been starting to think of teams that would deal a decent pick for Shved, Williams and 26.

[Grits n Gravy]

Sortable combine data;
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... os=0&sort=

Gobert is the only Legit 7 footer.

They don't play in bare feet man.

[Worm Guts]

No but I don't see the point of measuring equipment. You can always get thicker shoes.

[Klomp]

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[NikolaPekovic]

I think Oladipo is the safest player in the draft. His intangibles and elite defensive skills are what any contending team would love to have.


A perimeter defense of Ricky-Oladipo-AK would help cover up our lack of interior defense.

[Esohny]

I think it would be silly to trade #9, Williams and #26 for anyone in this draft. This is the time when draft prospects get really overrated if you ask me. That is one hefty price and leaves us with very little tradeable assets after that. Maybe you guys just value Oladipo more than me. I love his game, but I don't think he is that good to sacrifice most of your major assets for. I think there are a few guys that are getting slept on a bit. If Zeller is at 9 I'm perfectly fine drafting him. I have been starting to think of teams that would deal a decent pick for Shved, Williams and 26.

I suppose it's because the odds of getting even a rotation player at #26 are long, and Williams isn't worth much after two seasons of being decidedly below average. Plus the team would be getting out of Williams' contract.

[southern wolf]

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Good omen!

[PG24]

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Good omen!

Lol. This is the kind of 'open book honesty' I prefer.

[PG24]

Found an interesting piece on Oladipo over at kfan that I thought I'd share.

On a side note I'll help put fuel to the fire for the Oladipo detractors.

Site below shows a look at college basketball shot locations.

http://hoop-math.com/index.html

Play by play in the NCAAs breaks out the data into 3 categories:

- At Rim (layups, dunks, tip ins)
- 2pt Jumpers
- 3pt Shots

The site only has the resources to show numbers from the past 3 years --- I took a sample of notable SG-type prospects I could think of over that time period. Here is a list of the % split of shots taken by those players from each spot, sorted by % shots taken at the rim.

(Green denotes the most recent season of a prospect from this years draft class)

At Rim / 2pt Jumpers / 3pt Shots - Year - Player

62% / 22% / 16% - 2011/12 - Victor Oladipo
61% / 17% / 22% - 2012/13 - Victor Oladipo
40% / 45% / 15% - 2010/11 - Jimmy Butler
38% / 30% / 31% - 2011/12 - Dion Waiters
37% / 45% / 18% - 2010/11 - Alec Burks
34% / 19% / 46% - 2011/12 - Bradley Beal
34% / 33% / 34% - 2010/11 - Marshon Brooks
31% / 26% / 44% - 2012/13 - Ben McLemore
29% / 35% / 37% - 2012/13 - Jamaal Franklin
28% / 26% / 46% - 2010/11 - Dion Waiters
25% / 36% / 39% - 2011/12 - Jamaal Franklin
24% / 53% / 23% - 2012/13 - Shabazz Muhammad
24% / 28% / 48% - 2011/12 - Tim Hardaway
24% / 43% / 34% - 2010/11 - Iman Shumpert
23% / 36% / 41% - 2010/11 - Glen Rice
22% / 21% / 57% - 2011/12 - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
21% / 26% / 52% - 2012/13 - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
21% / 37% / 42% - 2011/12 - Glen Rice
21% / 36% / 43% - 2012/13 - Tim Hardaway
21% / 45% / 34% - 2010/11 - Jeremy Lamb
19% / 43% / 38% - 2012/13 - Allen Crabbe
19% / 39% / 42% - 2011/12 - Terrence Ross
18% / 26% / 56% - 2010/11 - Terrence Ross
18% / 35% / 47% - 2011/12 - Jeremy Lamb
16% / 38% / 45% - 2010/11 - Klay Thompson
13% / 33% / 54% - 2010/11 - Tim Hardaway
13% / 37% / 50% - 2010/11 - Allen Crabbe
11% / 38% / 51% - 2011/12 - Allen Crabbe


Oladipo gets a number of his shots off at the basket more than any other SG by a wide margin -- it's astounding actually how many shots he gets off from that area (he beats out a lot of bigs in college basketball). This can be attributed mainly to his tenacity on the offensive glass and his aggressiveness to drive to the hoop for buckets.

Will it translate to the pros? If it doesn't, he'll have to completely change his game -- a cause for concern, but still one with hope as he showed promise from midrange and behind the 3pt line his junior season. Tony Allen was the only SG I found in the NBA last season that shot more than 50% of his shots at the basket -- next closest was Dwyane Wade at 35%.

We'll see, but I think he's smart money compared to what else the draft has to offer.

Oladipo is my favorite player in the draft. I get the same "it" feeling when watching his game as I did when munching on pie watching Paul George's tape. But...

Just thought I'd share.

[theGreatRC]

I agree, Dipo has the IT factor and I would trade D-Will and #9 to get him, it'll be worth it IMO

[cpfsf]

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espn lottery machine is much cheaper than scouts

[wildvikeswolves]

Liking McColumn and KCP more and more the closer we get. Definitly see us grabbing one of them if Oladipo isn't there and we don't trade up for him. Both would give us scoring and three point shooting. McColumn would give us another good ball handler as well

[NikolaPekovic]

I'm doubting that we pick McCollum. Adelman made it clear he wants more size. KCP seeming like the probable pick.

[nickforthreee]

I'm doubting that we pick McCollum. Adelman made it clear he wants more size. KCP seeming like the probable pick.

he will be better than mccollum for the wolves. hes a better shooter. mccollums got better handles but you dont need that w/ rubio. and KCP incredible at coming off screens. exactly who u need to space the floor

[Devilzsidewalk]

I think it would be silly to trade #9, Williams and #26 for anyone in this draft. This is the time when draft prospects get really overrated if you ask me. That is one hefty price and leaves us with very little tradeable assets after that. Maybe you guys just value Oladipo more than me. I love his game, but I don't think he is that good to sacrifice most of your major assets for. I think there are a few guys that are getting slept on a bit. If Zeller is at 9 I'm perfectly fine drafting him. I have been starting to think of teams that would deal a decent pick for Shved, Williams and 26.

I suppose it's because the odds of getting even a rotation player at #26 are long, and Williams isn't worth much after two seasons of being decidedly below average. Plus the team would be getting out of Williams' contract.

the odds of getting a rotation player at #26 are long for big loser franchises, yes. For normal teams the odds are pretty damn fine.

[Esohny]

I think it would be silly to trade #9, Williams and #26 for anyone in this draft. This is the time when draft prospects get really overrated if you ask me. That is one hefty price and leaves us with very little tradeable assets after that. Maybe you guys just value Oladipo more than me. I love his game, but I don't think he is that good to sacrifice most of your major assets for. I think there are a few guys that are getting slept on a bit. If Zeller is at 9 I'm perfectly fine drafting him. I have been starting to think of teams that would deal a decent pick for Shved, Williams and 26.

I suppose it's because the odds of getting even a rotation player at #26 are long, and Williams isn't worth much after two seasons of being decidedly below average. Plus the team would be getting out of Williams' contract.

the odds of getting a rotation player at #26 are long for big loser franchises, yes. For normal teams the odds are pretty damn fine.

Shrug.

[Nitroglycerin]

Is there anyone in this draft that is considered a "scorer"?

Watching the playoffs, scorers are important when the offense becomes stagnant (see Memphis)
That is why I was okay with a healthy Eric Gordon

is McClemore active or just a 3point specialist? What about KCP?

[Nitroglycerin]

Is there anyone in this draft that is considered a "scorer"?

Watching the playoffs, scorers are important when the offense becomes stagnant (see Memphis)
That is why I was okay with a healthy Eric Gordon

is McClemore active or just a 3point specialist? What about KCP?

[NikolaPekovic]

Shabazz, McCollum, KCP are considered the scorers of this draft.


MCelmore is like the shooting guard version of Harrison Barnes.

[moss_is_1]

I'm thinking that KCP should be our guy, unless we could get Oladipo.

It makes me mad that we can't get McLemore(I'm a huge KU fan so I like him, but think he's pretty overrated right now...don't know if he's even an all-star, TBH).