Officlal Prospect thread

[horaceworthy]

Udoh ain't got nothin' on Quincy Acy.

[Slum_Dillinger]

Acy can get up

[the_bruce]

I think Monroe is a great long term fit for this team. The kid could end up being the best player from his class. I see a lot of comparisons throw around for him, but when I look at what he does I think he's sorta like the TD? Not a heralded athlete, HIGH bbiq, passer, etc. TD obv. the better defensive player.

Would be interested in seeing a solid breakdown of their years fresh/soph years.

This is comparing a 2nd year Monroe to a 4th year TD, but w/e I can't dig for stats all day.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... tim-duncan

Both put up "similar" stats. Duncan at wake obv played closer to the hoop and was an amazing shot blocker and defensive player. Duncan had some jaw dropping efficiency, but both actually had similar usage rates.

They have a similar frame too.

It will be interesting to see how monroe measures out. When I see him on the court he clearly looks to be the biggest guy out there. I'd be shocked if he measured out under 6'11 in shoes.

Really under rated imo, don't like comparing him to TD, but w/e

[Devilzsidewalk]

anybody like Willie Warren anymore? I was down on him when he was getting top 10 buzz, but now its looking like he might fall out of the lotto and he could be a worthy pickup at that point. His name sounds like an ABA star too, so thats a plus

[shangrila]

I honestly don't understand the love for Monroe. I'll admit he's talented and has some intriguing skills but what separates him from Love? The last thing the team needs is another unathletic big man, even if he can pass well above average.

Now if he measures 6-11 and can play centre I might give him some more consideration but I'd be happier just resigning Darko in that situation.

And about Warren, maybe if he falls it'd be good to take a look at him. But I don't think the team actually needs anymore guards and his troubles with his coach are a worrying sign.

[Slum_Dillinger]

I honestly don't understand the love for Monroe. I'll admit he's talented and has some intriguing skills but what separates him from Love? The last thing the team needs is another unathletic big man, even if he can pass well above average.

Now if he measures 6-11 and can play centre I might give him some more consideration but I'd be happier just resigning Darko in that situation.

And about Warren, maybe if he falls it'd be good to take a look at him. But I don't think the team actually needs anymore guards and his troubles with his coach are a worrying sign.

Defense

[cpfsf]

Here's how I think it's going to go down

1 Wall
2 Turner
3-6: Cousins/Aminu/Johnson/Favors (in no particular order, but I believe Cousins and Favors will be picked 5th at the latest)
7-12 (in no order): Vesely/Aldrich/Monroe/Motiejunas/Whiteside/Davis

Just a little over two months to go before the lottery. My heart was racing in the 2008/2009 lotto. The suspense though will be killing me this summer because we have to wait for picks 6-14 to be announced first.

[shangrila]

I honestly don't understand the love for Monroe. I'll admit he's talented and has some intriguing skills but what separates him from Love? The last thing the team needs is another unathletic big man, even if he can pass well above average.

Now if he measures 6-11 and can play centre I might give him some more consideration but I'd be happier just resigning Darko in that situation.

And about Warren, maybe if he falls it'd be good to take a look at him. But I don't think the team actually needs anymore guards and his troubles with his coach are a worrying sign.

Defense

That's it? I don't even think it's hard to be better at Love on defence.

[slinky]

So going into next season, would people rather have Monroe or Pekovic?

I really dont see any way we can have Jefferson/Love/Monroe/Pekovic in the same rotation. Or even without Jefferson, I dont know if Love/Pekovic/Monroe is a good combination.

So all contract stuff aside...who would you rather have Monroe or Pekovic? Who's the better prospect?

[horaceworthy]

I honestly don't understand the love for Monroe. I'll admit he's talented and has some intriguing skills but what separates him from Love? The last thing the team needs is another unathletic big man, even if he can pass well above average.

Now if he measures 6-11 and can play centre I might give him some more consideration but I'd be happier just resigning Darko in that situation.

I don't see the Love comparison.

Monroe is more athletic than Love, and taller/longer as well. He also has better footwork in both the high and low post. His footwork, ability to get to the line, versatile offensive game and outstanding passing ability combined with his size give him a chance to develop into a team's top post option, which, as good as Love is, probably can't be said about him. He's also a far better passer than Love in halfcourt situations. Love is a great outlet passer, but Monroe has Darko-type court vision.

He measured just over 6'10" with a wingspan just over 7'2" while in high school, and he looks to have grown a bit since his freshman year (he's still just 19, only 2 months older than Cousins and 1 year younger than Whiteside). He's not an explosive freak athlete, but he has good mobility and has shown glimpses of running the floor well (the Hoyas don't get out in transition much, so there isn't a whole lot of opportunity for him there). The extra mobility and length give him more potential on the defensive end than Love as well. He isn't unathletic, he's just not an explosive athlete.

He looks to fit perfectly into the way Rambis likes to run his offense, and have the potential to be a #2 option that complements a wing scorer very well.

[revprodeji]

I honestly don't understand the love for Monroe. I'll admit he's talented and has some intriguing skills but what separates him from Love? The last thing the team needs is another unathletic big man, even if he can pass well above average.

Now if he measures 6-11 and can play centre I might give him some more consideration but I'd be happier just resigning Darko in that situation.

And about Warren, maybe if he falls it'd be good to take a look at him. But I don't think the team actually needs anymore guards and his troubles with his coach are a worrying sign.

He is not the rebounder or thinker love is. He is a similar player. bigger and a better finisher, but he is a smart skilled player with avg athletic ability. I know your concern is duplication, but duplication is a good thing for me. If we believe Love only plays 25-30 min a game, then why not have a skilled fwd off the bench with a similar set of skills that can play the 23-18 minutes love is out? It is not that he is "unathletic" he just is not favors. I think Monroe fits with Darko, but honestly the Char pick is about adding the BPA and someone that strengthens our 8-9 man rotation. If Monroe falls we need to grab him. (Remember I am under the belief that Al is gone this summer)

[revprodeji]

So going into next season, would people rather have Monroe or Pekovic?

I really dont see any way we can have Jefferson/Love/Monroe/Pekovic in the same rotation. Or even without Jefferson, I dont know if Love/Pekovic/Monroe is a good combination.

So all contract stuff aside...who would you rather have Monroe or Pekovic? Who's the better prospect?

Different players. Pekovic is bigger, stronger, an inside physical force that plays center. Monroe is more finesse and a face up 4.

Jefferson will not be in that rotation. Love/Darko/Pek/Monroe is a line up I could handle at the big man spots. Nobody plays more then 25-30 minutes because they are all hustle bigs that get tired.

How much pekovic have you seen? I think Monroe and him would play great together.

[Slum_Dillinger]

I honestly don't understand the love for Monroe. I'll admit he's talented and has some intriguing skills but what separates him from Love? The last thing the team needs is another unathletic big man, even if he can pass well above average.

Now if he measures 6-11 and can play centre I might give him some more consideration but I'd be happier just resigning Darko in that situation.

And about Warren, maybe if he falls it'd be good to take a look at him. But I don't think the team actually needs anymore guards and his troubles with his coach are a worrying sign.

Defense

That's it? I don't even think it's hard to be better at Love on defence.

Defense is really the big difference for me, but there are several others which horaceworthy already hit on.

[revprodeji]

I think Love is underrated on defense. He is young, learning, and trying. He is not a very good help shot blocker and I do not think he will be due to his build, but he can body in the post and he can come out on the P/R. His hustle alone makes him at least an avg defender.

[horaceworthy]

His hustle may eventually make him an average defender, but it hasn't yet. At various points in the year, he hasn't even hustled, although that's gotten better recently. The good news is that there's a lot of room to improve.

[revprodeji]

Yea I agree with that, even more so when he has a legit 5 with him and a pg that can stop penetration.

[dunkonu21]

Dangit Rev, I kinda like that Pek/Love/Monroe/Darko idea. But I don't want Al to leave . Hopefully he comes back from his suspension and gets everyone back on his bandwagon!

[Krapinsky]

I'd like to see a healthy, more nimble Al, play next to Darko for a little bit. Hopefully this suspension has done his legs some good.

[shangrila]

I don't see the Love comparison.

Unathletic face up 4 who's an above average passer and below average defender.

Monroe is more athletic than Love, and taller/longer as well. He also has better footwork in both the high and low post. His footwork, ability to get to the line, versatile offensive game and outstanding passing ability combined with his size give him a chance to develop into a team's top post option, which, as good as Love is, probably can't be said about him. He's also a far better passer than Love in halfcourt situations. Love is a great outlet passer, but Monroe has Darko-type court vision.

Ok, maybe he's changed a lot since I last saw him (and I'll be honest it's been a long while) but has he suddenly exploded as some excellent post player? The last time I saw him he struggled scoring against physical post players which would sotp him from ever being a team's top post option.

He measured just over 6'10" with a wingspan just over 7'2" while in high school, and he looks to have grown a bit since his freshman year (he's still just 19, only 2 months older than Cousins and 1 year younger than Whiteside). He's not an explosive freak athlete, but he has good mobility and has shown glimpses of running the floor well (the Hoyas don't get out in transition much, so there isn't a whole lot of opportunity for him there). The extra mobility and length give him more potential on the defensive end than Love as well. He isn't unathletic, he's just not an explosive athlete.

I just get worried with how much slower he gets whenever he comes near a weight bench. Sure he's fairly average now but he'll need to add muscle if he ever expects to play even spot centre minutes in the NBA, but if he gets any slower he'll be useless.

He looks to fit perfectly into the way Rambis likes to run his offense, and have the potential to be a #2 option that complements a wing scorer very well.

I have a question. What happens to Love then?

[NewWolvesOrder]

Trade Love and Al for 2 top10 picks, then draft Monroe and Aldrich and don't forget to grab Turner in the process. Monroe/Aldrich looks like a classic PF/C combo to me, much better set-up than Love/Jeff, skillwise and sizewise.