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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#122 » by minimus » Wed Oct 2, 2024 7:10 pm

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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#123 » by shrink » Fri Oct 4, 2024 12:22 am

Where would you rank him in the top 16 Wolves players?

He’s been good enough to have an NBA a career for six seasons, and he has veteran experience against NBA competition.

Would he slide in front of Minott, Shannon Jr and Leonard Miller?
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

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shrink wrote:Where would you rank him in the top 16 Wolves players?

He’s been good enough to have an NBA a career for six seasons, and he has veteran experience against NBA competition.

Would he slide in front of Minott, Shannon Jr and Leonard Miller?

Potential or current contributions?
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#125 » by shrink » Fri Oct 4, 2024 1:23 am

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shrink wrote:Where would you rank him in the top 16 Wolves players?

He’s been good enough to have an NBA a career for six seasons, and he has veteran experience against NBA competition.

Would he slide in front of Minott, Shannon Jr and Leonard Miller?

Potential or current contributions?

That’s the question, right? MIN is already going to let Dillingham learn on the fly, and accept his mistakes. Do we do this with an additional young guy, even though we’re still a contender? MIN doesn’t often get many seasons with a chance to win a ring.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#126 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 4, 2024 1:51 am

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shrink wrote:Where would you rank him in the top 16 Wolves players?

He’s been good enough to have an NBA a career for six seasons, and he has veteran experience against NBA competition.

Would he slide in front of Minott, Shannon Jr and Leonard Miller?

Potential or current contributions?

That’s the question, right? MIN is already going to let Dillingham learn on the fly, and accept his mistakes. Do we do this with an additional young guy, even though we’re still a contender? MIN doesn’t often get many seasons with a chance to win a ring.

I don't necessarily agree.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#127 » by shrink » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:18 am

Klomp wrote:
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Klomp wrote:Potential or current contributions?

That’s the question, right? MIN is already going to let Dillingham learn on the fly, and accept his mistakes. Do we do this with an additional young guy, even though we’re still a contender? MIN doesn’t often get many seasons with a chance to win a ring.

I don't necessarily agree.

Interesting! Personally, I hope you’re right, that the addition of DiVincenzo has caused Connelly and Finch to change course, and bring him up slowly. However, Connelly has been on the record about throwing young, key pieces like Ant, into the fire early, to give them experience to build upon.

I think though if they choose not to develop Dillingham, who is a bigger investment and plays a position where we’re shallow (EDIT: point guard / play-making), then it’s unlikely their going to give minutes to Minott, Miller or Terrence Shannon Jr.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#128 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:45 am

shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:That’s the question, right? MIN is already going to let Dillingham learn on the fly, and accept his mistakes. Do we do this with an additional young guy, even though we’re still a contender? MIN doesn’t often get many seasons with a chance to win a ring.

I don't necessarily agree.

Interesting! Personally, I hope you’re right, that the addition of DiVincenzo has caused Connelly and Finch to change course, and bring him up slowly. However, Connelly has been on the record about throwing young, key pieces like Ant, into the fire early, to give them experience to build upon.

I think though if they choose not to develop Dillingham, who is a bigger investment and plays a position where we’re shallow, then it’s unlikely their going to give minutes to Minott, Miller or Terrence Shannon Je.


I don’t see them as shallow at guard. WithConley, Edwards, DiVencenzo, and NAW I don’t see a ton of minutes being available at guard. If we’re shallow at any spot it’s probably at PF/C, and that’s probably only in the case of injury.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#129 » by shrink » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:48 am

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Klomp wrote:I don't necessarily agree.

Interesting! Personally, I hope you’re right, that the addition of DiVincenzo has caused Connelly and Finch to change course, and bring him up slowly. However, Connelly has been on the record about throwing young, key pieces like Ant, into the fire early, to give them experience to build upon.

I think though if they choose not to develop Dillingham, who is a bigger investment and plays a position where we’re shallow, then it’s unlikely their going to give minutes to Minott, Miller or Terrence Shannon Je.


I don’t see them as shallow at guard. WithConley, Edwards, DiVencenzo, and NAW I don’t see a ton of minutes being available at guard. If we’re shallow at any spot it’s probably at PF/C, and that’s probably only in the case of injury.

Sorry - “point” guard and playmaking. I agree with you about center as well.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#130 » by younggunsmn » Fri Oct 4, 2024 3:50 am

shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:That’s the question, right? MIN is already going to let Dillingham learn on the fly, and accept his mistakes. Do we do this with an additional young guy, even though we’re still a contender? MIN doesn’t often get many seasons with a chance to win a ring.

I don't necessarily agree.

Interesting! Personally, I hope you’re right, that the addition of DiVincenzo has caused Connelly and Finch to change course, and bring him up slowly. However, Connelly has been on the record about throwing young, key pieces like Ant, into the fire early, to give them experience to build upon.

I think though if they choose not to develop Dillingham, who is a bigger investment and plays a position where we’re shallow, then it’s unlikely their going to give minutes to Minott, Miller or Terrence Shannon Je.


I think there will be windows throughout the season, particularly when Conley and Ingles are being rested, where Dillingham and TJ see some actual rotation minutes.
Otherwise it might only be 4 or 5 minutes a night, maybe a few more in games which are not tightly contested.
They are going to get some G-League run too.
That doesn't mean we aren't invested in developing them.

I could be wrong, on TJ in particular, and one or both become instant contributors.
IMHO that only happens if they are simply playing too well to keep on the bench, and that would be pretty great and we'd all be excited about that.
Personally I'm tempering my expectations.

Minott and MIller have not earned any minutes but garbage time so far, and with our depth I don't expect that to change this year.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#131 » by Worm Guts » Fri Oct 4, 2024 4:03 am

shrink wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
shrink wrote:Interesting! Personally, I hope you’re right, that the addition of DiVincenzo has caused Connelly and Finch to change course, and bring him up slowly. However, Connelly has been on the record about throwing young, key pieces like Ant, into the fire early, to give them experience to build upon.

I think though if they choose not to develop Dillingham, who is a bigger investment and plays a position where we’re shallow, then it’s unlikely their going to give minutes to Minott, Miller or Terrence Shannon Je.


I don’t see them as shallow at guard. WithConley, Edwards, DiVencenzo, and NAW I don’t see a ton of minutes being available at guard. If we’re shallow at any spot it’s probably at PF/C, and that’s probably only in the case of injury.

Sorry - “point” guard and playmaking. I agree with you about center as well.


If they want to get DiVencenzo 30+ minutes a night, they’re going to have to play him with Edwards, and I assume between Conley, Edwards, and DiVencenzo that’s going to have most of the guard minutes covered. If they wanted to stick with Dillingham in a typical backup role behind Conley, it’s probably going to get DiVencenzo the minutes he deserves.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#132 » by Klomp » Fri Oct 4, 2024 4:48 am

younggunsmn wrote:I think there will be windows throughout the season, particularly when Conley and Ingles are being rested, where Dillingham and TJ see some actual rotation minutes.
Otherwise it might only be 4 or 5 minutes a night, maybe a few more in games which are not tightly contested.
They are going to get some G-League run too.
That doesn't mean we aren't invested in developing them.

This is where I'm at too. Essentially, I see two different rotations. One with Mike in it (and the back of the bench would lean into more experience with Joe) and one without Mike (old guys sit, and the young guys show what they got)
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#133 » by KGdaBom » Sat Oct 5, 2024 12:04 am

shrink wrote:Where would you rank him in the top 16 Wolves players?

He’s been good enough to have an NBA a career for six seasons, and he has veteran experience against NBA competition.

Would he slide in front of Minott, Shannon Jr and Leonard Miller?

Not for me.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#134 » by wolves_89 » Sat Oct 5, 2024 6:21 am

shrink wrote:Where would you rank him in the top 16 Wolves players?

He’s been good enough to have an NBA a career for six seasons, and he has veteran experience against NBA competition.

Would he slide in front of Minott, Shannon Jr and Leonard Miller?


I'd rank KBD behind Minott and ahead of Miller. I don't think Shannon is a direct comparison since he is more of a guard than a forward.
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Re: Keita Bates-Diop thread 

Post#135 » by minimus » Sun Oct 6, 2024 1:40 pm

Why KBD did not play? Is another trade incoming?

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