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Neeva wrote:D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:Why did we have to miss out on Zion by a year?? Ugh
But knowing the wolves he would have an injury riddled career..
King Malta wrote:jpatrick wrote:I don’t get the Ball hate. People have said he’s an ego maniac, etc. His dad is an ego maniac. His dad has hurt his development by dragging him around the world making him part of some reality show instead of playing competitive ball.
Apparently in Australia, despite all this, he kept his head down and worked. I mean, it really is a credit to Ball that he overcame this lack of development and competition, and almost averaged a triple double against competition significantly better than NCAA.
As an example, against Scotty Machado, Ball went for 32pts, 11rebs, 13 assts on 11-20 shooting (4-7 from 3). Who is Machado? Someone who probably could be in the NBA, as he is now in his prime. A couple years ago he was one of the best point guards in the G League, averaging 16pts, 9asts, shooting over 40% from 3. He also was on Houston’s G League team several years ago, I wonder if Rosas went to him to ask about Ball’s play?
Don’t look at overall stats. Ball hadn’t played against real competition in years and was thrown into a man’s league. He significantly improved after about 5-6 games. He’s really good.
As far as ego, the dude is clearly uncomfortable during interviews. I think seeking the spotlight is much more his dad. He does have Instagram followes because of that show, but so did Zion, and I never hear this complaint about him. LaMelo and Zo both when separated from their dad have seemed to be good hard working kids.
I will say, Melo needs to completely cut himself off from his Dad’s Big Baller Brand. It does him no favors and makes him look bad.
I'm no Ball fan, but everything I've read from local sources RE: his time down here was that he was well liked by his team-mates and coaches. I get that there's this perception that all the Ball kids are as arrogant and extravagant as their old man, but I don't get that feel from Lamelo, as much as I think we shouldn't take him in this draft.
Additionally, for whatever it's worth, according to multiple sources, he tried to buy out his NBL club (The Illawarra Hawks) after they went into administration following the season he was down here. That deal never came to fruition for reasons that have not been made clear.
As far as the NBL quality argument, as you say, the quality he faced down here was better than the overall quality of the NCAA. Sure, it's not NBA quality and we shouldn't expect him to convert those performances over into the NBA, but when you're evaluating talent's performances pre-draft then Lamelo has been playing against better/more professional opposition than most other players in the draft.
All this being said, Wiseman would be my #1. I don't think Lamelo will be a bust, but his weaknesses just don't mesh with the sort of prospect we need to bring in, assuming we keep the pick.
Neeva wrote:Nesmith iseems like a one dimensional lesser buddy Hield:/, not really someone that the wolves should trade up for. If he falls to 17 sure why not.
D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:KGdaBom wrote:D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:He just turned 19 3 months ago. He has plenty of time to develop his jumper and mold his game.
He's been developing that horrible shot since he was 2. It is now permanently engrained in his DNA.
Counter point-Shawn Marion had a broken shot but had a great career
Fischella wrote:This is my best Mock based on intel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em51MeXXIAAil5D?format=png&name=medium
Kinda what you can expect, OKC trading up to POR's pick using 25+28
Neeva wrote:Good mock but wolves should not pass on Maxey, get a pf at 33 (McDaniels, Reed or Perry should be available)
maxey/Ball seems like a good backcourt pairing for future.
Neeva wrote:Good mock but wolves should not pass on Maxey, get a pf at 33 (McDaniels, Reed or Perry should be available)
maxey/Ball seems like a good backcourt pairing for future.
KGdaBom wrote:D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:KGdaBom wrote:He's been developing that horrible shot since he was 2. It is now permanently engrained in his DNA.
Counter point-Shawn Marion had a broken shot but had a great career
he's by far the exception and he had Steve Nash setting him up. Ball won't have that privilege. Marion had a broken shot, but he made them. Ball has a broken shot and he misses them.
KGdaBom wrote:D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:KGdaBom wrote:He's been developing that horrible shot since he was 2. It is now permanently engrained in his DNA.
Counter point-Shawn Marion had a broken shot but had a great career
he's by far the exception and he had Steve Nash setting him up. Ball won't have that privilege. Marion had a broken shot, but he made them. Ball has a broken shot and he misses them.
D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:KGdaBom wrote:D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:Counter point-Shawn Marion had a broken shot but had a great career
he's by far the exception and he had Steve Nash setting him up. Ball won't have that privilege. Marion had a broken shot, but he made them. Ball has a broken shot and he misses them.
he just turned 19, Lol. I know we agree with who we want for #1 but it isn’t even close to trending that way. So I’ve moved on .
I’ll give the guy a season or 2 to become just an efficient scorer. I don’t think his chucking will fly in the nba. The dude is a wizard with the ball. He could fine DLO /KAT and others with ease
Calinks wrote:This absolutely sucks lol. I don't believe in Ball at all. Wiseman seems like a horrid fit and It's against my new sports religion to draft a player with motor issues. Why do all 3 of the top guys have to have some major red flag?
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