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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#121 » by minimus » Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:30 am

shangrila wrote:Big wing as in weight? Or height?

There's a few either way. Justin Lewis just had a brutal last game but he fits the mold. David Roddy isn't as tall but brings the weight and I like him assuming his quick feet translates to perimeter defence. And I'd throw in Dereon Seabron (probably butchered the name). He's a skinny 6-7 with no shot to speak of but is a relentless rim attacker that lives at the line and with enough playmaking to make teams pay. He might not come out though.


Good question. If I say height, then it should be MCD type of player 6’10 with 7-foot wingspan. If I say weight, than it should be Jimmy Butler type of player who has short wingspan, but great core strength and high motor/IQ. Both types fit seamlessly next to KAT/Reid/TP/MCD.
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shangrila wrote:mobile rim protector (like Rob Williams, Mitchel Robinson)

I imagine everyone is looking for these. Oscar Tshiebwe fits, as does EJ Liddell (although his offence is questionable at this point). I really like Ismael Kamagate here as well. He's a big guy that should be able to operate in our scheme.


Agree, everyone is looking for cheap, athletic backup C. Maybe some raw prospects will be available for us in 2nd round. Guys like Jericho Sims or Day'Ron Sharpe might be worth our two way contracts and long term investment.

shangrila wrote:PoA defender (like Dort)
Everyone says Keels fits this, and he's got the physicality plus enough athleticism to do it adequately. But then I watch him and I'm not as impressed, so I don't know about him. Kennedy Chandler is a good option here although he's a purely 1 position player


Yes, I think defensive versatility is very important. I wrote Lu Dort type of player, but I can see us drafting Caruso type of versatile defender. Although I see such potential in Bolmaro as well.

shangrila wrote:tough, physical PF/C (like Xavier Tillman)

Tshiebwe again, maybe Liddell if you think he can play the 5 (I don't personally). Then there's a guy like Trevion Williams, who's a bit Greg Monroe like. And finally, if you want a really young option, Michael Foster might be worth a look.
Honestly, I think this draft sucks outside of a few guys. For where we're drafting I'd take a crack at Patrick Baldwin Jr, as I can see a role for him even if he doesn't develop much more as a 6-10 Malik. Tshiebwe would be great at 42 but I doubt he lasts that long. But if the FO were to trade out entirely I wouldn't care.


I hope that we draft high character, high IQ, high motor players who can fit and impact without needing ball in their hands. Watching Beverly compete every second vs DAL makes me believe that should invest in young players who can 'inherit, adopt' this type of unselfish, passioned game.

P.S. I also agree that we might be better to use our picks and make a trade to bring here a veteran.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#122 » by minimus » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:02 pm

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#123 » by Neeva » Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:48 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Dosadi wrote:New ESPN draft up. https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33546525/2022-nba-mock-draft-how-top-prospects-fared-ncaa-men-basketball-tournament

Wolves drafting 17 -
Ousmane Dieng | NZ Breakers | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.8

Then
40. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Cavaliers via Wizards)
Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | 6-8 | PF | Age: 20.3
Then
49. Minnesota Timberwolves
Drew Timme | Gonzaga | 6-10 | PF/C | Age: 21.5
Then
53. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Nuggets)
Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 22.7

I'm.... Curious..... how they have us drafting 2 WF players in the second round.....

I'd be thrilled with Timme in the 2nd.


Maybe as undrafted free agent, doubt he gets drafted by anyone.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#124 » by Rookie-Mistake » Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:18 am

Any guerilla big defensive centres in this draft? Would be good to have one to play 10 mons and develop

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#125 » by KGdaBom » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:10 am

Neeva wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Dosadi wrote:New ESPN draft up. https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33546525/2022-nba-mock-draft-how-top-prospects-fared-ncaa-men-basketball-tournament

Wolves drafting 17 -
Ousmane Dieng | NZ Breakers | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.8

Then
40. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Cavaliers via Wizards)
Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | 6-8 | PF | Age: 20.3
Then
49. Minnesota Timberwolves
Drew Timme | Gonzaga | 6-10 | PF/C | Age: 21.5
Then
53. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Nuggets)
Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 22.7

I'm.... Curious..... how they have us drafting 2 WF players in the second round.....

I'd be thrilled with Timme in the 2nd.


Maybe as undrafted free agent, doubt he gets drafted by anyone.

if he goes undrafted the scouts are fools.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#126 » by shangrila » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:55 am

minimus wrote:https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

It's so hard to take O'Connor seriously after the boner he had for Killian Hayes. And even this "team needs" mock has some weird choices, namely the Spurs taking 2 project SGs (after just taking Primo) and the Knicks taking a 3&D SG after just trading for Reddish (who Thibs doesn't play anyway). I also think Agbaji anywhere near the lottery is asinine, but he's not the only one that thinks that way so fine.

As far as how this plays out, I'd be interested in flipping OKC a future heavily protected 1st if Daniels is available at 15. And at 19 I'd skip Brown (soured on him due to motor questions) and probably go with Koloko, since I like his potential in our blitz scheme over a guy like Mark Williams (who I do like, just not for us). Kessler could also be interesting if he's available, though he's not in this mock.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#127 » by minimus » Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:54 am

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minimus wrote:https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

It's so hard to take O'Connor seriously after the boner he had for Killian Hayes. And even this "team needs" mock has some weird choices, namely the Spurs taking 2 project SGs (after just taking Primo) and the Knicks taking a 3&D SG after just trading for Reddish (who Thibs doesn't play anyway). I also think Agbaji anywhere near the lottery is asinine, but he's not the only one that thinks that way so fine.

As far as how this plays out, I'd be interested in flipping OKC a future heavily protected 1st if Daniels is available at 15. And at 19 I'd skip Brown (soured on him due to motor questions) and probably go with Koloko, since I like his potential in our blitz scheme over a guy like Mark Williams (who I do like, just not for us). Kessler could also be interesting if he's available, though he's not in this mock.

Yeah, O'Connor prediction is more about fun then real analysis. But at least their website has fancy design.

I agree that we should think about drafting guys who can excel in high wall, blitz scheme. Long and athletic wings such as MCD, or undersized guys but with pterodactyl wingspan such as OG Anunoby.

Honestly, I would like to get a two way SG who can defend AND hit open 3s. Let say an mix of Nowell and Okogie. Or a mix of Beasley and Okogie.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#128 » by Neeva » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:08 am

I have seen enough if Mark Williams is there I think Gupta has to take him.
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2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#129 » by minimus » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:36 am

Neeva wrote:I have seen enough if Mark Williams is there I think Gupta has to take him.

His below average finishing ability around the rim reminds me Dieng. But his 7'7" wingspan intrigues. Can he improve his basketball awareness?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#130 » by moss_is_1 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:28 pm

A few I've been looking out for.

Mark Williams - think he'd be great as our back up big. Rebounds and defends at a high level, raw offensively.

Walker Kessler - not sure why he's rated so low. Big, mobile, good instincts defensively. He can already shoot with touch, and handle the ball.

Jalen Duran - he's more of a high upside gamble than the other 2. He's 18 months younger than Holmgren. But he's a great rebounder and athlete, shot blocker.

Ochai Agbaji - older player. Could be a good role player, plays good defense, great shooter and athlete.

Bryce McGowens - worth a gamble if we keep a 2nd rounder. Young, good size, once he can tighten his handle and get a more consistent 3 point shot he'll be a damn good scorer. Gets to the line a lot.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#131 » by Neeva » Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:49 pm

minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:I have seen enough if Mark Williams is there I think Gupta has to take him.

His below average finishing ability around the rim reminds me Dieng. But his 7'7" wingspan intrigues. Can he improve his basketball awareness?


He seems to be a smart player/good basketball iq. He always manages to tip the ball to himself or teammates when he can’t get the rebound like Jokic does. I think he could be a starter for the wolves by his second year, if kat moves to PF.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#132 » by Worm Guts » Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:56 pm

I think I like Tscheibwe more than Williams or Kessler
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Post#133 » by Neeva » Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:42 pm

Why not both Williams and Tscheibwe.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#134 » by shangrila » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:07 am

Neeva wrote:Why not both Williams and Tscheibwe.

What's the point?

Even if we lose Reid there's not many minutes behind Towns. Doubly so for a single position guy like Williams.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#135 » by shangrila » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:09 am

Worm Guts wrote:I think I like Tscheibwe more than Williams or Kessler

I'm leaning toward Christian Koloko myself.

Basically a mid-point; has the height of Williams/Kessler with the switchability of Tscheibwe.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#136 » by minimus » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:41 am

Agbaji looks very interesting to me. Tough, dynamic both in offense and defense
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#137 » by Dewey » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:19 pm

Draft and off-season free agency we need to address 2 things…

1. PF …
2. PG …

Between our 1st rounder and a few 2nds we should be able to address at least one of these needs. Whatever we add helps bolster the bench
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#138 » by Worm Guts » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:50 pm

shangrila wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:I think I like Tscheibwe more than Williams or Kessler

I'm leaning toward Christian Koloko myself.

Basically a mid-point; has the height of Williams/Kessler with the switchability of Tscheibwe.


I was going to mention Koloko as well, he seems pretty explosive and has the length, but I don't want to go to far down the path of implying I know what I'm talking about. Tscheibwe just really impressed me in the short periods of time I watched him, grabbing a ton of rebounds and dunking on people.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#139 » by minimus » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:02 pm

Dewey wrote:Draft and off-season free agency we need to address 2 things…

1. PF …
2. PG …

Between our 1st rounder and a few 2nds we should be able to address at least one of these needs. Whatever we add helps bolster the bench


Would be awesome to get oversized, 6'3-6'5" version of JMac who can defend PG/SG, pass and slash
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#140 » by old school 34 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:07 am

minimus wrote:
Dewey wrote:Draft and off-season free agency we need to address 2 things…

1. PF …
2. PG …

Between our 1st rounder and a few 2nds we should be able to address at least one of these needs. Whatever we add helps bolster the bench


Would be awesome to get oversized, 6'3-6'5" version of JMac who can defend PG/SG, pass and slash
Like say....Bolmaro? Not that he should prevent one from drafting another PG or whatever....but do you still have hope there? And/or any strong feelings if he does make something of himself...what that will be?

I'm not ready to give up on him just yet, but I have no real hopes &/or ideas as to what he might really become & I'm curious to see to know if Gupta is a fan or was he more a Rosas pick that they might easily move on from?

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