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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1201 » by KGdaBom » Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:
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atlantabbq99 wrote:Congratulations wolf pack on getting Edwards!!!

I've been watching Antman for years now. I have no doubt in my mind he is going to be on the same level as Mitch Richmond and Bradley Beal, or a rich man's Isiah Rider.

Don't worry about his 3pt shot, he will be hitting 40% from three and 80% from the free throw line in a year or two and he will be an all star for +10 years down the road.

What can we say. We hope you're right. However if you want to trade us Okongwu and Hunter for him we would listen.


I watched every UGA game Ant was in. I haven't watched many of wolves games. I said Edwards would be the next Mitch Richmond, Bradley Beal, Isiah Rider. What do you guys think so far after Edward's rookie season?

Let's just say that if you offered Okongwu and Hunter now we would not listen.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1202 » by Neeva » Fri May 21, 2021 5:13 pm

We weren’t listening back then either. Some of us anyway.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1203 » by Nick K » Sat May 22, 2021 2:56 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:
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atlantabbq99 wrote:Congratulations wolf pack on getting Edwards!!!

I've been watching Antman for years now. I have no doubt in my mind he is going to be on the same level as Mitch Richmond and Bradley Beal, or a rich man's Isiah Rider.

Don't worry about his 3pt shot, he will be hitting 40% from three and 80% from the free throw line in a year or two and he will be an all star for +10 years down the road.

What can we say. We hope you're right. However if you want to trade us Okongwu and Hunter for him we would listen.


I watched every UGA game Ant was in. I haven't watched many of wolves games. I said Edwards would be the next Mitch Richmond, Bradley Beal, Isiah Rider. What do you guys think so far after Edward's rookie season?


You nailed it. I might add D. Wade.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1204 » by Lucamilo23 » Mon May 24, 2021 11:05 pm

Dan Feldman

First team

LaMelo Ball (Hornets)

Tyrese Haliburton (Kings)

Immanuel Quickley (Knicks)

Anthony Edwards (Timberwolves)

Isaiah Stewart (Pistons)

Second team

Jae’Sean Tate (Rockets)

Saddiq Bey (Pistons)

Facundo Campazzo (Nuggets)

Desmond Bane (Grizzlies)

Xavier Tillman (Grizzlies)

This turned out to be a deep rookie class.

Four players – Immanuel Quickley, Anthony Edwards, Isaiah Stewart and Jae’Sean Tate – were all quite close for the final three first-team spots. Tate drew the short straw.


Ant gets no respect. HOW can you say the 3 about are all close for a spot on the first rookie team.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1205 » by Calinks » Tue May 25, 2021 12:07 am

It's just nuts to not have Edwards on the first team or have him any lower than 2 on ROY. I really think he is getting penalized for our bad perception. Our franchise is a public joke. Kat is seen as a soft punk, everyone was quick to rip us for the Dlo trade as Wiggins looked a little better. We are just in a terrible place optics-wise right now. Going to take a respectable season to fix that. Not fair to Edwards but it's how things are.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1206 » by Neeva » Tue May 25, 2021 12:14 am

Feldman is a fat joke
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1207 » by Worm Guts » Tue May 25, 2021 4:49 am

If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1208 » by Battletrigger » Tue May 25, 2021 8:40 am

Calinks wrote:It's just nuts to not have Edwards on the first team or have him any lower than 2 on ROY. I really think he is getting penalized for our bad perception. Our franchise is a public joke. Kat is seen as a soft punk, everyone was quick to rip us for the Dlo trade as Wiggins looked a little better. We are just in a terrible place optics-wise right now. Going to take a respectable season to fix that. Not fair to Edwards but it's how things are.


Kat is what he is man,a soft ass punk.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1209 » by Baseline81 » Tue May 25, 2021 11:13 am

Worm Guts wrote:If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.

Because advanced stats are the be-all and end-all...
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1210 » by Worm Guts » Tue May 25, 2021 11:47 am

Baseline81 wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.

Because advanced stats are the be-all and end-all...


I’m not saying you have to agree with the opinion, I just understand how he got there.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1211 » by _AIJ_ » Tue May 25, 2021 11:56 am

Neeva wrote:Feldman is a fat joke

Who is he?
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1212 » by NebWolvesFan » Tue May 25, 2021 1:56 pm

Worm Guts wrote:If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.


Haliburton had a solid rookie season, but he fell into a great spot. The Kings had solid offensive players - Fox, Hield, Barnes. He could hit open jumpers, pass the ball to shooters who make shots and slowly get used to the NBA game. Edwards' path was a lot harder. Towns got hurt, Ryan played him at SF/PF early in the year and he was forced to make up for the loss of Towns' scoring. When Minnesota got healthy, Edwards analytics went up.

Haliburton got to play almost all of his games with Fox, Hield, Barnes and Holmes. Ant only played the final third with Russell and Towns and was amazing in those games.

People need to look at the full picture.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1213 » by jpatrick » Tue May 25, 2021 2:24 pm

It depends on how you look at ROY. If it’s who is the best prospect, Ant is definitely top two and anyone who says differently is insane.

If it’s who was the most productive player towards winning over the course of the year, that’s a different story. While Ant was very good the second half, especially for a rookie, he was the most harmful player in the league towards winning over the first half. And we all saw that. He not only jacked up shots at a horrible percentage but he was bad on defense.

So, if a reporter is looking at the year as a whole and saying I’m struggling to vote for someone that was objectively harmful to their team for half a year, I get that. If they don’t think Ant is a helluva prospect going forward, I don’t get that.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1214 » by shrink » Tue May 25, 2021 8:45 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.

Because advanced stats are the be-all and end-all...

This is the answer. Anthony Edwards didn’t even make Danny LeRoux’s first team.

The problem here is that nearly every rookie is going to be bad overall. The more they are played, the more damage they will generally do.

Now personally, I think it’s ridiculous that anyone would think Ant and Ball aren’t the top two rookies. Both players could be top ten players in the nba in a few years. However, a few reporters just look at stats, and if a rookie doesn’t do much to impact his team, and he’s on the floor where the other four vets do all the work, he may get better team stats associated with him. I also think many of these analysts stopped following the Wolves very closely over the last six weeks, with so many teams jockeying for playoff position (Thorpe on Doogie’s podcast seems like one of those).

Still, I see no reasonable way to not have Ant and Ball as the top two.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1215 » by Neeva » Tue May 25, 2021 10:36 pm

jpatrick wrote:It depends on how you look at ROY. If it’s who is the best prospect, Ant is definitely top two and anyone who says differently is insane.

If it’s who was the most productive player towards winning over the course of the year, that’s a different story. While Ant was very good the second half, especially for a rookie, he was the most harmful player in the league towards winning over the first half. And we all saw that. He not only jacked up shots at a horrible percentage but he was bad on defense.

So, if a reporter is looking at the year as a whole and saying I’m struggling to vote for someone that was objectively harmful to their team for half a year, I get that. If they don’t think Ant is a helluva prospect going forward, I don’t get that.



Well it’s not like he was stuck with a jv high school coach the first half of the season...
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1216 » by King Malta » Wed May 26, 2021 12:57 am

Calinks wrote:It's just nuts to not have Edwards on the first team or have him any lower than 2 on ROY. I really think he is getting penalized for our bad perception. Our franchise is a public joke. Kat is seen as a soft punk, everyone was quick to rip us for the Dlo trade as Wiggins looked a little better. We are just in a terrible place optics-wise right now. Going to take a respectable season to fix that. Not fair to Edwards but it's how things are.


Whilst you are right in how the generally basketball public views us and our players, I would expect more from analysts or members of the media who are supposedly meant to be consuming a large amount of basketball themselves.

Pundits are constantly exposed by the smaller market teams for their lack of overall understanding of the sport and their willingness to just buy into narratives that are being pushed, and it's not unique to basketball. People will often give credence to opinions spurted by these types because they are supposedly more knowledgeable than your average punter, but they really aren't.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1217 » by Nick K » Wed May 26, 2021 3:29 am

There are very, very few experts. Most of these "expert" writers couldn't find their ass with either hand. Don't put much if any stock in what they have to say. Use your own judgement.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1218 » by Klomp » Wed May 26, 2021 2:08 pm

Important to remember that the internet is like ESPN times a million when it comes to hot takes. I think it's more important to focus on a more local level, where we have perhaps the best collection of writers and bloggers in the association. Jon, Britt, Dane, and the rest of them are where to pay attention.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1219 » by Nick K » Fri May 28, 2021 1:17 am

Worm Guts wrote:If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.


Therein lies the weakness of advanced stats. Halliburton couldn't hold Edwards jock. I've said it for years, advanced stats are helpful but not the be all/end all.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1220 » by Playmaker17 » Tue Jun 8, 2021 11:03 pm

Worm Guts wrote:If you look at the advanced stats, you can see why someone would put Halliburton above Edwards.


If you watched the last 50 games, you can’t justify having Edwards anywhere but #1. Edwards is the only rookie getting consistent double teams. Taking more difficult shots Against Teams that’s defenders and still scoring 22 points a game the second half of the season. The Hornets were better off without Lamelo in the lineup the second half of the season. Halliburton is a nice player but a relative non factor scoring 12 ppg

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