Lowe - Timberwolves Still Want D-Russell

[karch34]

Jon K:



If this is true it says that stein was full of $hit saying the Wolves were canvassing the league and Rosas didn't F' up.

Huh?

Klomp I don't get your "HUH". I think my post was easy to understand.

Don't think full of $*** as much as poorly written. They had options in place or wouldn't have had a meeting with a free agent while they were $9 million over the cap. Situation was fluid and likely staying in contact with teams as pieces were moving. Doubt Rosas set up meeting and then after decided to try to make initial discussions.

It went from Miami trading Dragic to Dallas, to Whiteside to Dallas, to Whiteside to Portland in Butler deal in less than 24 hours. Things aren't close to finalized.

[Klomp]

Klomp I don't get your "HUH". I think my post was easy to understand.

Stein: Wolves have been canvassing the league to make the trades they need to make.
Krawczynski: Wolves were ready to make the necessary trades.

How does that make Krawczynski correct and Stein full of crap? They're essentially saying the same thing.

I see that as the opposite. READY as in PREPARED. Already had the trades worked out in advance. No canvassing needed.

Jon's report was made after Marc's. How can you be prepared to make a trade if you don't talk to teams about said trade? Think these GMs are mind-readers?

[KGdaBom]

Stein: Wolves have been canvassing the league to make the trades they need to make.
Krawczynski: Wolves were ready to make the necessary trades.

How does that make Krawczynski correct and Stein full of crap? They're essentially saying the same thing.

I see that as the opposite. READY as in PREPARED. Already had the trades worked out in advance. No canvassing needed.

Jon's report was made after Marc's. How can you be prepared to make a trade if you don't talk to teams about said trade? Think these GMs are mind-readers?

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

[Klomp]

I see that as the opposite. READY as in PREPARED. Already had the trades worked out in advance. No canvassing needed.

Jon's report was made after Marc's. How can you be prepared to make a trade if you don't talk to teams about said trade? Think these GMs are mind-readers?

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

He wasn't saying that at all

[karch34]

I see that as the opposite. READY as in PREPARED. Already had the trades worked out in advance. No canvassing needed.

Jon's report was made after Marc's. How can you be prepared to make a trade if you don't talk to teams about said trade? Think these GMs are mind-readers?

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

I think you're viewing similar tweets as different based on nomenclature to support your frustration. Is saying Kahn canvassed Phoenix about Wesley Johnson and a 1st for cap to potentially sign Batum, better or materially different than having the moves lined up to trade salary for Batum if the end result is the same?

[King Malta]

[KGdaBom]

Jon's report was made after Marc's. How can you be prepared to make a trade if you don't talk to teams about said trade? Think these GMs are mind-readers?

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

He wasn't saying that at all

Which one wasn't saying that at all? To me that is what each of them was saying

[KGdaBom]

Jon's report was made after Marc's. How can you be prepared to make a trade if you don't talk to teams about said trade? Think these GMs are mind-readers?

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

I think you're viewing similar tweets as different based on nomenclature to support your frustration. Is saying Kahn canvassed Phoenix about Wesley Johnson and a 1st for cap to potentially sign Batum, better or materially different than having the moves lined up to trade salary for Batum if the end result is the same?

You can't canvas a single entity.

[Klomp]

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

He wasn't saying that at all

Which one wasn't saying that at all? To me that is what each of them was saying

You've been around here long enough to understand that bolded text in a quote usually means there's a reason someone bolded it to stand out....

[KGdaBom]

He wasn't saying that at all

Which one wasn't saying that at all? To me that is what each of them was saying

You've been around here long enough to understand that bolded text in a quote usually means there's a reason someone bolded it to stand out....

Sorry I'm tired and bleary eyed from following all this stuff. How can going out and canvassing on Free Agent night not be winging it?
To me Stein's statement about canvassing the NBA trying to find a trade partner was the most damning post against our organization made by anybody over last nights happenings.

[Neeva]

No way Im Giving up culver for Dlo,
Give him up for Beal, the wizards look like a damn mess.

[Jedzz]

I still do not think MIN can risk adding a maxed Russell with a maxed Wiggins still on the roster.

Remember. Russell can’t get to the hoop, he can’t defend, he’s never had an efficient season, and he’s about to get a max deal that runs four years. If Russell isn’t worth a max, then the combination of Wiggins and Russell will torpedo this team financially for four full years, and that would certainly cost us KAT.

The team is currently already financially torpedo'd.

[wolfen]

For those that are on social media, has D-Lo put anything on his that would indicate he's staying in GS? Like "thrilled to be a Warrior" or "time to chase rings", etc? The reason I ask is, that if he HASN'T, that could CERTAINLY be a sign that he's not in his final destination in this whole thing. Other free agents who are signing with teams seem to like to give a shout out on their social media, excited to be on their new team.

[jscott]

Can't they talk trades for players under contract? He wouldn't need to canvas last night if he had worked things out in advance. To me K was saying it was all worked out in advance and Stein was saying we were completely winging it. Klomp you are always defending the media because you are the media, but some times the media gets it wrong.

He wasn't saying that at all

Which one wasn't saying that at all? To me that is what each of them was saying

I think you are reading into it too much and overreacting based on that.

I'm fully with Klomp on this.

Jon K posted a write-up on The Athletic yesterday about how it all went down. Rosas had trades lined up had he said he would sign with the Wolves. DLo never said yes, he decided to go with the Warriors instead. End of story.

[shrink]

I think a lot of fans wished for Russell, not because he was anything special, but because they think he was their only choice in Minnesota, and no good player will ever want to come here.

That’s not true. Free agents go to where there are successful franchises. The Warriors were the laughingstocks of the 90’s and 00’s, and they were the winner of the Kevin Durant sweepstakes. Who’d have thought Paul George would choose a small city in the middle of Oklahoma over hometown LA? Cold weather isn’t making Kawhi remove Toronto from consideration. LeBron returned to Cleveland because he happened to be born nearby,

The very best players on the NBA are not automatically going to big markets any more. We may have missed on Russell, and need some patience, but if the team develops under Rosas (and having KAT is a great first step), and we manage our finances better to be ready, a successful program will attract star free agents.

[Klomp]

I think a lot of fans wished for Russell, not because he was anything special, but because they think he was their only choice in Minnesota, and no good player will ever want to come here.

That’s not true. Free agents go to where there are successful franchises. The Warriors were the laughingstocks of the 90’s and 00’s, and they were the winner of the Kevin Durant sweepstakes. Who’d have thought Paul George would choose a small city in the middle of Oklahoma over hometown LA? Cold weather isn’t making Kawhi remove Toronto from consideration. LeBron returned to Cleveland because he happened to be born nearby,

The very best players on the NBA are not automatically going to big markets any more. We may have missed on Russell, and need some patience, but if the team develops under Rosas (and having KAT is a great first step), and we manage our finances better to be ready, a successful program will attract star free agents.

Worth noting....

1. George didn't initially sign with OKC in FA, he was traded there.
2. Leonard didn't initially sign with TOR in FA, he was traded there.
3. How many star players in the league were born close to Minneapolis?

[shrink]

I think a lot of fans wished for Russell, not because he was anything special, but because they think he was their only choice in Minnesota, and no good player will ever want to come here.

That’s not true. Free agents go to where there are successful franchises. The Warriors were the laughingstocks of the 90’s and 00’s, and they were the winner of the Kevin Durant sweepstakes. Who’d have thought Paul George would choose a small city in the middle of Oklahoma over hometown LA? Cold weather isn’t making Kawhi remove Toronto from consideration. LeBron returned to Cleveland because he happened to be born nearby,

The very best players on the NBA are not automatically going to big markets any more. We may have missed on Russell, and need some patience, but if the team develops under Rosas (and having KAT is a great first step), and we manage our finances better to be ready, a successful program will attract star free agents.

Worth noting....

1. George didn't initially sign with OKC in FA, he was traded there.
2. Leonard didn't initially sign with TOR in FA, he was traded there.
3. How many star players in the league were born close to Minneapolis?

When he reached free agency, George chose OKC over LA, even though he was an LA kid.
Toronto appears to have every much a chance to sign Kawhi this season as LA does.
Kevin Durant chose GSW, because GSW made themselves into a good destination.

These are there choices, and that’s what’s we’re talking about .. free agent choices.

The notion that MIN will never have a free agent choose them is constantly being disproven as new franchises become better.

[KGdaBom]

He wasn't saying that at all

Which one wasn't saying that at all? To me that is what each of them was saying

I think you are reading into it too much and overreacting based on that.

I'm fully with Klomp on this.

Jon K posted a write-up on The Athletic yesterday about how it all went down. Rosas had trades lined up had he said he would sign with the Wolves. DLo never said yes, he decided to go with the Warriors instead. End of story.

Klomp is defending the Stein report that says we were canvassing. I am choosing to believe the K Report that we were Firmly Ready. So you are actually with me not Klomp.

[Klomp]

Both reports can be (and probably are) correct. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

[Macwolf527]

Somebody mentioned the strange closeness in value of

Russell, Napier and Graham at $30.85m

to

Teague and Covington at $30.3m

No big deal there, but what I do find strange is the fact that both Teague and Covington are accompanying the Wolves summer league team to Vegas, supposedly to assist in coaching the young bucks. Now, that is very STRANGE! Can someone say, PHYSICALS & MEDICAL CLEARANCE!