Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[minimus]

Alright. Last one.. until tonight. File this one under who the bleep knows what Utah is doing and we help them tank.
RD and Miller
for
Collier and Sensabaugh

In SL games Dillingham looked like an NBA superstar in comparison with Collier.

[cmoss84]

Alright. Last one.. until tonight. File this one under who the bleep knows what Utah is doing and we help them tank.
RD and Miller
for
Collier and Sensabaugh

In SL games Dillingham looked like an NBA superstar in comparison with Collier.

Sensabaugh is legit.

[BlacJacMac]

Alright. Last one.. until tonight. File this one under who the bleep knows what Utah is doing and we help them tank.
RD and Miller
for
Collier and Sensabaugh

In SL games Dillingham looked like an NBA superstar in comparison with Collier.

Sensabaugh is legit.

Sure. But how many back-up SGs do we need?

[Norseman79]

Fact is, upgrading the backcourt is going to cost a valuable resource. You either want to upgrade it, or stay the course. A small move may do a little, but the price will be high either way.

[winforlose]

Fact is, upgrading the backcourt is going to cost a valuable resource. You either want to upgrade it, or stay the course. A small move may do a little, but the price will be high either way.

You get what you pay for. If you pay small you usually get small upgrade if at all. Our issue is we lack picks. Picks are how good teams get substantially better without giving up player talent. Denver got Gordon for two firsts, we got Gobert for picks, Cavs got Mitchell for picks, ect… This is why overpaying slightly on other deals makes it harder when you get to this point. I just don’t know who we can afford that would be the impact player. I was very high on White, but everyone is telling me he is overrated. I don’t have league pass and watch a fraction of his games. Assuming you guys are right, I don’t have a long list of names we could hunt. Jose Alverado might make a good PG 2, but we lack a PG 1.

[cmoss84]

Rudy for Suggs.
Did you know Suggs is cousins with Haliburton?
Locked up for 5 years on a descending contract.

[cmoss84]

This one is very doable with minor adjustments:

Rudy and DDV
for
Suggs and WCJr


This one also works:
Rudy, RD, and Miller
for
Suggs and GogaBit

[KGdaBom]

This one is very doable with minor adjustments:

Rudy and DDV
for
Suggs and WCJr


This one also works:
Rudy, RD, and Miller
for
Suggs and GogaBit

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[BlacJacMac]

Rudy for Suggs.
Did you know Suggs is cousins with Haliburton?
Locked up for 5 years on a descending contract.

I ask again, how many SGs do we need? We should not be trading Bigs or PGs for wings - unless they're an absolute superstar that compliments Ant.

Suggs is a very nice defender, but 2023-24 is looking like a clear outlier shooting the ball.

And he can't stay healthy.

[Norseman79]

Rudy for Suggs.
Did you know Suggs is cousins with Haliburton?
Locked up for 5 years on a descending contract.

I ask again, how many SGs do we need? We should not be trading Bigs or PGs for wings - unless they're an absolute superstar that compliments Ant.

Suggs is a very nice defender, but 2023-24 is looking like a clear outlier shooting the ball.

And he can't stay healthy.

Can't Suggs play PG?

[Klomp]

Can't Suggs play PG?

He's not traditional enough of a PG for some people.

[cmoss84]

Rudy for Suggs.
Did you know Suggs is cousins with Haliburton?
Locked up for 5 years on a descending contract.

I ask again, how many SGs do we need? We should not be trading Bigs or PGs for wings - unless they're an absolute superstar that compliments Ant.

Suggs is a very nice defender, but 2023-24 is looking like a clear outlier shooting the ball.



And he can't stay healthy.

Can't Suggs play PG?

This is what I was wondering. Thought he could play PG as well.

[cmoss84]

This one is very doable with minor adjustments:

Rudy and DDV
for
Suggs and WCJr


This one also works:
Rudy, RD, and Miller
for
Suggs and GogaBit

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Lol
You have much more faith in a few of our players than I.

[BlacJacMac]

Rudy for Suggs.
Did you know Suggs is cousins with Haliburton?
Locked up for 5 years on a descending contract.

I ask again, how many SGs do we need? We should not be trading Bigs or PGs for wings - unless they're an absolute superstar that compliments Ant.

Suggs is a very nice defender, but 2023-24 is looking like a clear outlier shooting the ball.

And he can't stay healthy.

Can't Suggs play PG?

Not well.

AST% 19.2
TOV% 16.2

PER 36: 4.5 assists vs 3.0 tos

He's not in any way a natural PG. He doesn't run offense, he doesn't get his teammates easy shots, he doesn't break pressure.

He's basically NAW without the 3 point shot or durability.

[BlacJacMac]

Can't Suggs play PG?

He's not traditional enough of a PG for some people.

Or for the NBA.

Orlando has been begging Black to take the PG spot for 2 years. They just drafted Jase Richardson with the intent to play him at PG and they overpaid Tyus to help stabilize the position.

Even Bane is a much better PG than Suggs.

[KGdaBom]

This one is very doable with minor adjustments:

Rudy and DDV
for
Suggs and WCJr


This one also works:
Rudy, RD, and Miller
for
Suggs and GogaBit

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Lol
You have much more faith in a few of our players than I.

If Suggs was good I'd maybe have some interest two years from now when Rudy is probably done.

[cmoss84]

I guess my point is I'd rather get some value for Rudy before it's too late and I'm not sold on Rob being anything more than a solid backup. Suggs and WCJr give our team more upside imo.

[BlacJacMac]

I guess my point is I'd rather get some value for Rudy before it's too late and I'm not sold on Rob being anything more than a solid backup. Suggs and WCJr give our team more upside imo.

For the few games they play...

Suggs and WCJ do nothing for me.

I love Goga though, and I'd consider a deal for him with Rudy as the main piece as a longer-term move.

But we can't just throw in Dilly unless we're getting a PG back (and that's not Suggs).

[shrink]

I guess my point is I'd rather get some value for Rudy before it's too late….

I actually think Gobert will be the rare big man that ages well. He takes tremendous care of his body and his nutrition, and while most big men regularly miss large numbers of of games, Rudy averages over 70 a season for 11 years, if you remove his rookie year. He has also averaged over 70 for his last five years as well. I find it encouraging.

[cmoss84]

I guess my point is I'd rather get some value for Rudy before it's too late and I'm not sold on Rob being anything more than a solid backup. Suggs and WCJr give our team more upside imo.

For the few games they play...

Suggs and WCJ do nothing for me.

I love Goga though, and I'd consider a deal for him with Rudy as the main piece as a longer-term move.

But we can't just throw in Dilly unless we're getting a PG back (and that's not Suggs).

Fair enough. I'd just rather have Suggs and Gogabit than Rudy and RD, especially with one more year of Mike, but that's just me...