Updates on former Wolves

[winforlose]

2 once highly regarded guys that look like busts for PatBev.

I knew there was no way he had even “ late 1st round pick value”.

A sell low doesn’t reflect his true value. It reflects not wanting to hold him till mid season when he doesn’t want to be there. That said this was clearance sale version of the deal.

[BlacJacMac]

And what did we give up for him when he was 2 years younger?

I’ve said all along that his trade value would never match his on court value and that continues to be true.

[Domejandro]

My post from the Trade Board:

"There was not a significantly better deal on the table and Patrick Beverly had a small list of teams that he wanted to play for. Very similar to Minnesota trading Juancho Hernangómez and Jarrett Culver for Patrick Beverly.

There is value in helping facilitate where veteran players want to go."

[winforlose]

And what did we give up for him when he was 2 years younger?

I’ve said all along that his trade value would never match his on court value and that continues to be true.

Why is that? Honestly asking?

[BlacJacMac]

And what did we give up for him when he was 2 years younger?

I’ve said all along that his trade value would never match his on court value and that continues to be true.

Why is that? Honestly asking?

Because his value is more cultural and the things he excels at on the floor are not apparently obvious by boxscores. Guys like that are always criminally undervalued. And I'm sure his "antics" are unjustly held against him as well. And at 34 with a history of missing games, his trade value is likely as low as its been since before he made the NBA with Houston.

He's been a really good player for a long time and a legit starter on a ton of Playoff teams, but he's never really gotten the respect he deserves.

[BlacJacMac]

My post from the Trade Board:

"There was not a significantly better deal on the table and Patrick Beverly had a small list of teams that he wanted to play for. Very similar to Minnesota trading Juancho Hernangómez and Jarrett Culver for Patrick Beverly.

There is value in helping facilitate where veteran players want to go."

100%.

That said, if Ainge could've gotten a 1st round pick for him, he would've sent him to Siberia, if he had to, to make it happen.

[winforlose]

And what did we give up for him when he was 2 years younger?

I’ve said all along that his trade value would never match his on court value and that continues to be true.

Why is that? Honestly asking?

Because his value is more cultural and the things he excels at on the floor are not apparently obvious by boxscores. Guys like that are always criminally undervalued. And I'm sure his "antics" are unjustly held against him as well. And at 34 with a history of missing games, his trade value is likely as low as its been since before he made the NBA with Houston.

He's been a really good player for a long time and a legit starter on a ton of Playoff teams, but he's never really gotten the respect he deserves.

Just last year he was a starting PG for a 46 win team and a defensive anchor. His numbers are way better 4.6 AST to 1.3 TO averaging 1.2 steals and 1 block on poor but not awful shooting splits of 40% FG and 34% from 3. That is enough value to get more than he has returned the last 3 trades (maybe combined.) His antics generally benefit his team, and as you said he adds culture value as well. He played 58 games and all playoff games he was eligible for. Not exactly terrible. I just think the Jazz sold low because Bev demanded out. He didn’t want to ride the tank even till the deadline.

[BlacJacMac]

That is enough value to get more than he has returned the last 3 trades (maybe combined.)

Clearly it is not - or he would’ve been traded for more.

1 time could be a fluke. 3 times? Not so much.

[Klomp]

And what did we give up for him when he was 2 years younger?

It hasn't been 2 years...

[BlacJacMac]

And what did we give up for him when he was 2 years younger?

It hasn't been 2 years...

Sorry, feels longer.

Point still stands.

[life_saver]

We also have to remember that Bev is now 34 and he was already missing decent amount of time last year due to lot of minor knocks. He only played in 58 games and averaged around 25 mpg for us despite being a starter.

[Neeva]

Bev’s playoff streak is coming to an end.

[winforlose]

Bev’s playoff streak is coming to an end.

I secretly hope that he messes with Lebron and AD so much that the Lakers cut him or trade him to be cut. Then we swoop in an offer a minimum to finish the year back here. I know it won’t happen, but would be so much fun.

[Zonarosa]

Bev’s playoff streak is coming to an end.

I secretly hope that he messes with Lebron and AD so much that the Lakers cut him or trade him to be cut. Then we swoop in an offer a minimum to finish the year back here. I know it won’t happen, but would be so much fun.

that’s not even allowed.

[BlacJacMac]

Bev’s playoff streak is coming to an end.

I secretly hope that he messes with Lebron and AD so much that the Lakers cut him or trade him to be cut. Then we swoop in an offer a minimum to finish the year back here. I know it won’t happen, but would be so much fun.

that’s not even allowed.

It actually is!

101. When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contracts?

A team cannot reacquire a player it traded away during the same season (a season for this purpose being defined as starting on the first day of the regular season and ending on the last day of the Finals). If the player was traded between seasons (i.e., from the first day after the Finals to the last day prior to the start of the next regular season), it cannot reacquire the player prior to the end of the next season. If he is waived by his new team, then he cannot re-sign with his original team until the one-year anniversary of the trade, or until the July 1 following the end of his contract, whichever comes first 6*. However, if a team trades a player's draft rights, it can reacquire the player during the same season.

*6 Interestingly, a player can be traded to a third team, waived by the third team, and be eligible to re-sign with his original team before the waiting period expires. While this has not happened in practice, the league clarified its interpretation of this rule in 2017, in regard to a possible instance with Andrew Bogut.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q101

[Domejandro]

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I am always going to love PatBev

[KGdaBom]

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Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got to love the audacity. However, a couple years ago LeBron and Brow won it all.

[winforlose]

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I am always going to love PatBev

Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got to love the audacity. However, a couple years ago LeBron and Brow won it all.

Hard to count a title in 19/20 as a real title. The shutdown followed by the bubble really messed with the NBA. In a normal season the finales would have been Bucks vs Clippers.

[Dewey]

Bev is a disrupter … sometimes it backfired, but usually it’s effective in pushing effort