The Andrew Wiggins Thread

[mondry]

I feel like Wiggins current body says SG but his current skill set says SF.

[C.lupus]

That's a succinct way of putting it.

[Ferulci]

Thank you for your answers !

I dont see the benefits of putting him at the 3 where he will be forced to play Small ball 4 half of the time and take too much weight.

I don't get this. Why would playing SF force him to play small-ball 4?

Because with the small ball trend, it's almost expected from a SF to play 10+ minutes as the PF. It happens with Crowder/Carmelo/KD/George/Kawhi/Carroll/Giannis/Barnes/Morris/Harris and so on.

I don't recall what they were saying about him last night but in general they are pretty positive with Wiggins. I don't think they are mouthpieces for Smitch, probably just holding Wiggins to a higher standard than Dieng, which is valid.

Fair enough, you're probably right on this.

Right now he has a size advantage over most SGs but his ball handling is weak. He has trouble defending bigger SFs at this point in his career. He should naturally bulk up with time so the SF spot might be his best fit eventually. He really should be able to play either one, though.

That's right, ball handling and shooting are 2 of his biggest area for improvements. That being said, I'm hopeful, if the work ethic is good, he should eventually get there (Butler/Paul Georges/KD/Derozan were worse ballhandlers during their sophomore years). I just think that Minny shouldnt negate the huge advantage he has on SG, and can take example from Butler (who can switch to SF to guard bigger defenders but still is a SG able to punk fools with his strength and size). We have too many cases of players bulking up for the sake of it and losing the advantages they had (like McGrady or Valenciunas more recently).

[Mattya]

Thank you for your answers !

I dont see the benefits of putting him at the 3 where he will be forced to play Small ball 4 half of the time and take too much weight.

I don't get this. Why would playing SF force him to play small-ball 4?

Because with the small ball trend, it's almost expected from a SF to play 10+ minutes as the PF. It happens with Crowder/Carmelo/KD/George/Kawhi/Carroll/Giannis/Barnes/Morris/Harris and so on.

I don't recall what they were saying about him last night but in general they are pretty positive with Wiggins. I don't think they are mouthpieces for Smitch, probably just holding Wiggins to a higher standard than Dieng, which is valid.

Fair enough, you're probably right on this.

Right now he has a size advantage over most SGs but his ball handling is weak. He has trouble defending bigger SFs at this point in his career. He should naturally bulk up with time so the SF spot might be his best fit eventually. He really should be able to play either one, though.

That's right, ball handling and shooting are 2 of his biggest area for improvements. That being said, I'm hopeful, if the work ethic is good, he should eventually get there (Butler/Paul Georges/KD/Derozan were worse ballhandlers during their sophomore years). I just think that Minny shouldnt negate the huge advantage he has on SG, and can take example from Butler (who can switch to SF to guard bigger defenders but still is a SG able to punk fools with his strength and size). We have too many cases of players bulking up for the sake of it and losing the advantages they had (like McGrady or Valenciunas more recently).

He is a wing. He won't be getting minutes at PF. When SGs try to defend him he has a big size advantage especially as he continues to get bigger and stronger. When SFs try to guard him he will use his first step, quickness, and step backs to get separation.

[King Malta]

I feel like Wiggins current body says SG but his current skill set says SF.

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[C.lupus]

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[Mattya]

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You watch that little smack talk they had about All Star Weekend and you can tell these guys really get along.

[TroubleS0me]

I feel like Wiggins current body says SG but his current skill set says SF.

Report: Timberwolves ‘lament’ Andrew Wiggins missing weight-lifting sessions

Andrew Wiggins is undoubtedly one of the NBA’s most promising young superstars, but the young swingman is reportedly struggling to find his way in the weight room, per Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report.

Wiggins was an outstanding shooting guard as a rookie last year, but Ding reports the organization sees him as a full-time small forward in the future. However, his lack of dedication in the weight room could be a hindrance to that goal:

“One of the keys to Minnesota’s future success is for Wiggins, 20, to be strong enough to be a full-time small forward and open up the shooting-guard position for [Zach] LaVine, also 20,” Ding writes. “Team insiders, though, lament how many weightlifting sessions Wiggins skips, and the supposedly slim-fit, sleeved jerseys the Wolves love to wear show the ample room to grow in his arms.”

As good as Wiggins has been during his first year-plus in the league, he would be even better over the long haul if he were to dedicate himself to the weight room.

There is another aspect of his development which is somewhat troubling, as relayed by Ding: “The half-speed way Wiggins goes through his pregame workout, when others such as LaVine are so on point with their game simulation, is another bad habit.”

Furthermore, Ding reports Wiggins shies away from the fiery leadership of Kevin Garnett, preferring to avoid “harsh criticism” instead of listening to the wisdom provided by such a legendary figure.

Natural talent can only get players so far in the NBA — just ask Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and LeBron James, among others.

It takes so much more than that to move from potential star into realized super stardom. Wiggins has that potential, but he is still so raw in many ways. The natural talent he possesses is on another level, which is evidenced on a nightly basis as he makes highlight-reel worthy plays on both ends of the court.

However, until Wiggins fully embraces what it means to be a professional basketball player, rather than a phenomenally talented one, he’s likely going to miss out on realizing that his full potential.

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/02/report-andrew-wiggins-skipping-timberwolves-weight-lifting-sessions/

[Mattya]

I feel like Wiggins current body says SG but his current skill set says SF.

Report: Timberwolves ‘lament’ Andrew Wiggins missing weight-lifting sessions

Andrew Wiggins is undoubtedly one of the NBA’s most promising young superstars, but the young swingman is reportedly struggling to find his way in the weight room, per Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report.

Wiggins was an outstanding shooting guard as a rookie last year, but Ding reports the organization sees him as a full-time small forward in the future. However, his lack of dedication in the weight room could be a hindrance to that goal:

“One of the keys to Minnesota’s future success is for Wiggins, 20, to be strong enough to be a full-time small forward and open up the shooting-guard position for [Zach] LaVine, also 20,” Ding writes. “Team insiders, though, lament how many weightlifting sessions Wiggins skips, and the supposedly slim-fit, sleeved jerseys the Wolves love to wear show the ample room to grow in his arms.”

As good as Wiggins has been during his first year-plus in the league, he would be even better over the long haul if he were to dedicate himself to the weight room.

There is another aspect of his development which is somewhat troubling, as relayed by Ding: “The half-speed way Wiggins goes through his pregame workout, when others such as LaVine are so on point with their game simulation, is another bad habit.”

Furthermore, Ding reports Wiggins shies away from the fiery leadership of Kevin Garnett, preferring to avoid “harsh criticism” instead of listening to the wisdom provided by such a legendary figure.

Natural talent can only get players so far in the NBA — just ask Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and LeBron James, among others.

It takes so much more than that to move from potential star into realized super stardom. Wiggins has that potential, but he is still so raw in many ways. The natural talent he possesses is on another level, which is evidenced on a nightly basis as he makes highlight-reel worthy plays on both ends of the court.

However, until Wiggins fully embraces what it means to be a professional basketball player, rather than a phenomenally talented one, he’s likely going to miss out on realizing that his full potential.

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/02/report-andrew-wiggins-skipping-timberwolves-weight-lifting-sessions/

That entire report was shot down.

[TroubleS0me]

I feel like Wiggins current body says SG but his current skill set says SF.

Report: Timberwolves ‘lament’ Andrew Wiggins missing weight-lifting sessions

Andrew Wiggins is undoubtedly one of the NBA’s most promising young superstars, but the young swingman is reportedly struggling to find his way in the weight room, per Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report.

Wiggins was an outstanding shooting guard as a rookie last year, but Ding reports the organization sees him as a full-time small forward in the future. However, his lack of dedication in the weight room could be a hindrance to that goal:

“One of the keys to Minnesota’s future success is for Wiggins, 20, to be strong enough to be a full-time small forward and open up the shooting-guard position for [Zach] LaVine, also 20,” Ding writes. “Team insiders, though, lament how many weightlifting sessions Wiggins skips, and the supposedly slim-fit, sleeved jerseys the Wolves love to wear show the ample room to grow in his arms.”

As good as Wiggins has been during his first year-plus in the league, he would be even better over the long haul if he were to dedicate himself to the weight room.

There is another aspect of his development which is somewhat troubling, as relayed by Ding: “The half-speed way Wiggins goes through his pregame workout, when others such as LaVine are so on point with their game simulation, is another bad habit.”

Furthermore, Ding reports Wiggins shies away from the fiery leadership of Kevin Garnett, preferring to avoid “harsh criticism” instead of listening to the wisdom provided by such a legendary figure.

Natural talent can only get players so far in the NBA — just ask Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and LeBron James, among others.

It takes so much more than that to move from potential star into realized super stardom. Wiggins has that potential, but he is still so raw in many ways. The natural talent he possesses is on another level, which is evidenced on a nightly basis as he makes highlight-reel worthy plays on both ends of the court.

However, until Wiggins fully embraces what it means to be a professional basketball player, rather than a phenomenally talented one, he’s likely going to miss out on realizing that his full potential.

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/02/report-andrew-wiggins-skipping-timberwolves-weight-lifting-sessions/

That entire report was shot down.

but where is your source?

[Mattya]

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/02/report-andrew-wiggins-skipping-timberwolves-weight-lifting-sessions/

That entire report was shot down.

but where is your source?

Darren Wolfson.

[TheProdigy]

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/02/report-andrew-wiggins-skipping-timberwolves-weight-lifting-sessions/

That entire report was shot down.

but where is your source?

The original quote is from a Bleacher Report article. That is not a legitimate source.

[Saltine]

Anyone sourcing from "Bleacher Report" needs to rent a new brain.

[TroubleS0me]

That entire report was shot down.

but where is your source?

The original quote is from a Bleacher Report article. That is not a legitimate source.

didnt know it was from Bleacher Report.

[Klomp]

didnt know it was from Bleacher Report.

Did you read the article before you posted it?

the young swingman is reportedly struggling to find his way in the weight room, per Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report.

[TroubleS0me]

didnt know it was from Bleacher Report.

Did you read the article before you posted it?

the young swingman is reportedly struggling to find his way in the weight room, per Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report.

yes but i didnt see that part

[BuzzerBeaterBry]

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/zach-lavine-karl-anthony-towns-and-andrew-wiggins-be-honored-accomplishments-2016-nba-all-star

I thought this was cool.

[huesito]

nba @22wiggins with the quick elevation for the @timberwolves!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCI_m8Rh4z/

[NewWolvesOrder]

nba @22wiggins with the quick elevation for the @timberwolves!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCI_m8Rh4z/

Wiggins has so much talent but his impact is very shallow. He has so much to learn about the game. I think Thibs would be the right coach for Drew. It's amazing how Jimmy Butler grew as a player under Thibs regime, the guy was pick # 30th who spent years in college.
I believe Wiggins was screwed a little by Flip/Smitch coaching. Same goes for Dieng. No way he's so bad defensively under Thibs.

[NikolaPekovic]

nba @22wiggins with the quick elevation for the @timberwolves!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCI_m8Rh4z/

Wiggins has so much talent but his impact is very shallow. He has so much to learn about the game. I think Thibs would be the right coach for Drew. It's amazing how Jimmy Butler grew as a player under Thibs regime, the guy was pick # 30th who spent years in college.
I believe Wiggins was screwed a little by Flip/Smitch coaching. Same goes for Dieng. No way he's so bad defensively under Thibs.

This is why a guy like Thibs is necessary. He will demand at least 6 rebounds and dog hound defense out of Wiggins every night. Offense can come after that.