Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[Nick K]

Man I remember how many people trashed Edwards at around this period in the season last year. I promised I'd pull up all those quotes from that period, because it was painfully obvious that you guys should've believed in Ant based on how fluid and smart he looked despite the missed shots and some poor defensive possessions. The only reason I don't is not that I'm better than that but that I'm too lazy to do it.

I will save you some time with regard to me. I said he shoots too many 3s needs to drive more, reminds me of Wiggins, plays lazy D, disappears from games, ect… Every single comment was true, is still true (his defense is not lazy now but was then, it shows what he can do when he wants to, the key is wanting to,) and I still believe he can improve. Ant has been shooting more efficiently from deep recently, after a start so bad he made JO look like Curry from deep. If he keeps it up then I will become more comfortable with his high volume from beyond the arc. That said, he is natural born slasher and by not slashing he is denying his potential. He is doing serious damage to the offense and his teammates as well. Drive and kick is the name of the modern game and he is our best and primary drive guy. When he refuses to do it he sabotages the offense and makes it much easier to guard everyone. The biggest test for Finch is can he save Ant from becoming Wiggins. So far there is reason for optimism, but look at Wiggins numbers and ask yourself where he went wrong before celebrating Ant. Finch was right about 2/3rds 1/3rd and Ant just won’t do it.

Efficiency isn't great as a 20-year old sophomore, but he's already the type of player who can go on a run and change a game at any moment. I never want him deferring because you never know when the next shot is going to go in and shift the momentum.

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I couldn't agree more. It's hard to criticize Ant because he's trying to figure things out as he goes. Ant needs to shoot several 3's per game to keep defenses honest. I'd like to see him take more of them feet set in rhythm. I'd also like to see him develop more of a mid-range game.

We should be patient. He's young and still figuring things out.

I don't get the Ant/Wiggins thing. Ant will go on his own path and evolve to greatness.

[winforlose]

I will save you some time with regard to me. I said he shoots too many 3s needs to drive more, reminds me of Wiggins, plays lazy D, disappears from games, ect… Every single comment was true, is still true (his defense is not lazy now but was then, it shows what he can do when he wants to, the key is wanting to,) and I still believe he can improve. Ant has been shooting more efficiently from deep recently, after a start so bad he made JO look like Curry from deep. If he keeps it up then I will become more comfortable with his high volume from beyond the arc. That said, he is natural born slasher and by not slashing he is denying his potential. He is doing serious damage to the offense and his teammates as well. Drive and kick is the name of the modern game and he is our best and primary drive guy. When he refuses to do it he sabotages the offense and makes it much easier to guard everyone. The biggest test for Finch is can he save Ant from becoming Wiggins. So far there is reason for optimism, but look at Wiggins numbers and ask yourself where he went wrong before celebrating Ant. Finch was right about 2/3rds 1/3rd and Ant just won’t do it.

Efficiency isn't great as a 20-year old sophomore, but he's already the type of player who can go on a run and change a game at any moment. I never want him deferring because you never know when the next shot is going to go in and shift the momentum.

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I couldn't agree more. It's hard to criticize Ant because he's trying to figure things out as he goes. Ant needs to shoot several 3's per game to keep defenses honest. I'd like to see him take more of them feet set in rhythm. I'd also like to see him develop more of a mid-range game.

We should be patient. He's young and still figuring things out.

I don't get the Ant/Wiggins thing. Ant will go on his own path and evolve to greatness.

Go back and look at Wiggins around this time in his career. So much of how we evaluated Wiggins was the same as how we evaluate Ant. Both were deadly when they get to the rim, both had problems with their shot but settled for jumpers more than they should. Both have handle issues (Ant is better but he does dribble off his foot and get it poked away more than I like.) Both have attitudes that seem disengaged at times (like losing doesn’t really bother them, though Ant is more expressive,) and both would have these monster games and then go quite for the next several. I believe in Ant, but I also see red flags that I saw with Wiggins. I want Ant to reach that next level and become the elite player we all know he can be. But, I have seen it go the other way, and I see the potential for Ant to repeat that same tragedy.

[shangrila]

You can keep repeating the Wiggins comp until you’re blue in the face, it won’t change the fact it’s wrong.

[winforlose]

You can keep repeating the Wiggins comp until you’re blue in the face, it won’t change the fact it’s wrong.

Fair enough, speaking of comparison https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=edwaran01&player_id1=wiggian01&sum=0&request=1

[Nick K]

Efficiency isn't great as a 20-year old sophomore, but he's already the type of player who can go on a run and change a game at any moment. I never want him deferring because you never know when the next shot is going to go in and shift the momentum.

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I couldn't agree more. It's hard to criticize Ant because he's trying to figure things out as he goes. Ant needs to shoot several 3's per game to keep defenses honest. I'd like to see him take more of them feet set in rhythm. I'd also like to see him develop more of a mid-range game.

We should be patient. He's young and still figuring things out.

I don't get the Ant/Wiggins thing. Ant will go on his own path and evolve to greatness.

Go back and look at Wiggins around this time in his career. So much of how we evaluated Wiggins was the same as how we evaluate Ant. Both were deadly when they get to the rim, both had problems with their shot but settled for jumpers more than they should. Both have handle issues (Ant is better but he does dribble off his foot and get it poked away more than I like.) Both have attitudes that seem disengaged at times (like losing doesn’t really bother them, though Ant is more expressive,) and both would have these monster games and then go quite for the next several. I believe in Ant, but I also see red flags that I saw with Wiggins. I want Ant to reach that next level and become the elite player we all know he can be. But, I have seen it go the other way, and I see the potential for Ant to repeat that same tragedy.

I see where you are going and your logic, but I think it's an over-reach. They are two very, very different guys with what motivates them. It's way to early to be worried him becoming Wiggins like.

Ant has more talent, toughness, and most importantly desire for them ever being alike.

[shangrila]

You can keep repeating the Wiggins comp until you’re blue in the face, it won’t change the fact it’s wrong.

Fair enough, speaking of comparison https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=edwaran01&player_id1=wiggian01&sum=0&request=1

Before we continue, do you understand the concept of sample sizes?

[winforlose]

You can keep repeating the Wiggins comp until you’re blue in the face, it won’t change the fact it’s wrong.

Fair enough, speaking of comparison https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=edwaran01&player_id1=wiggian01&sum=0&request=1

Before we continue, do you understand the concept of sample sizes?

Yes.

[shangrila]

Fair enough, speaking of comparison https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=edwaran01&player_id1=wiggian01&sum=0&request=1

Before we continue, do you understand the concept of sample sizes?

Yes.

Ok cool.

So you're fully aware you're trying to use a 547 game sample size against a 95 game sample size, completely throwing out any form of context or acknowledging the glaringly obvious issue of...using a 547 game sample against a 95 game sample. What you should have done, assuming this wasn't an attempted "gotcha!", was this.

So let's take a look at the objective elements of your argument that Wiggins and Ant are somehow comparable. Statistically, by their sophomore years, Ant is taking nearly 4 times the amount of 3s than Wiggins was despite only averaging 2 more overall FGAs than Wiggins. He's a significantly better defensive rebounder and has a 1.5 times higher AST% despite having similar usage (and turnover %, actually). Wiggins, on the flip side, has a significant edge in FTAs.

So, statistically, if one were to look at them you would see that Ant is a volume shooter while Wiggins was an aggressive, foul hunting slasher (atleast if you don't look at his shot distribution and saw all the mid range jumpers). Which begs the question...where's the comparison?

And that's the objective side of things. Subjectively, Ant and Wiggins couldn't be further apart. Their personalities are different, their demeanors are different, the way they score is different.

It's just not a good comparison once you look past the very basic surface level stuff. And that's fine, but you need to move on.

[winforlose]

Before we continue, do you understand the concept of sample sizes?

Yes.

Ok cool.

So you're fully aware you're trying to use a 547 game sample size against a 95 game sample size, completely throwing out any form of context or acknowledging the glaringly obvious issue of...using a 547 game sample against a 95 game sample. What you should have done, assuming this wasn't an attempted "gotcha!", was this.

So let's take a look at the objective elements of your argument that Wiggins and Ant are somehow comparable. Statistically, by their sophomore years, Ant is taking nearly 4 times the amount of 3s than Wiggins was despite only averaging 2 more overall FGAs than Wiggins. He's a significantly better defensive rebounder and has a 1.5 times higher AST% despite having similar usage (and turnover %, actually). Wiggins, on the flip side, has a significant edge in FTAs.

So, statistically, if one were to look at them you would see that Ant is a volume shooter while Wiggins was an aggressive, foul hunting slasher (atleast if you don't look at his shot distribution and saw all the mid range jumpers). Which begs the question...where's the comparison?

And that's the objective side of things. Subjectively, Ant and Wiggins couldn't be further apart. Their personalities are different, their demeanors are different, the way they score is different.

It's just not a good comparison once you look past the very basic surface level stuff. And that's fine, but you need to move on.

Your point about sample size is always going to be an issue when comparing veterans to up and comers. If you want a more direct comparison check Wiggins year 3 and Ant this year. But you cannot ignore context of the seasons, team composition, ect… For example Wiggins first year has no KAT or equivalent player, we traded Love for Wiggins and he was the best we had. KAT year one with Wiggins year 2 still isn’t a complete rebuild, expectations were not high yet. Wolves year 3 with Wiggins, KAT and Lavine was the first time that the rebuild might actually be ending, but this is getting off topic.

Substitute turn around long 2s for pull up 3s and their shots selection is kinda similar. Wiggins year 3 averaged 19 shot attempts per game same as Ant year 2 (so far.) Wiggins averaged 23.6 Ant averaged 22. Also before you start remember the coaching and schemes were different and we were a low volume 3 point shooting team compared to the more 3 happy wolves so of course you cannot compare apples to oranges. But then again I feel like that’s what you have been trying to do. Both are players who thrive when they drive yet settle too often for less efficient jump shots.

You say Ant has a very different attitude, yet he goes entire quarters without shooting and is always smiling even when losing. The biggest off court complaint about Wiggins was his demeanor. You could point out that Wiggins was often more flat and expressionless giving off an air of indifference whereas Ant is vibrant and joking and more charismatic. But at the end of the day, if it doesn’t translate to being more engaged in game what does it matter? With KAT out Ant took 16 shots and scored 19 points. Of those shots 7 were 3s, he hit 1. That means he shot 5 of 9 from inside the arc. Your the advanced stat guy, what did Wiggins shoot at the rim vs Ant, I bet it was similar.

You are so determined to show the small differences like a rebound here or an assist there that you miss the larger point. Ant needs to be hungrier, to be more willing to do the things that lead to winning. He has all the potential in the world, just like Wiggins. But until he lives up to it, he is all hype. How many games this season could have been won if Ant didn’t disappear for half the game? On what basis do you say Wiggins year 2 was always going to turn out like Wiggins year 6? Why can’t the same thing happen to Ant if he doesn’t show some damn hunger?

[shangrila]

Your point about sample size is always going to be an issue when comparing veterans to up and comers. If you want a more direct comparison check Wiggins year 3 and Ant this year. But you cannot ignore context of the seasons, team composition, ect… For example Wiggins first year has no KAT or equivalent player, we traded Love for Wiggins and he was the best we had. KAT year one with Wiggins year 2 still isn’t a complete rebuild, expectations were not high yet. Wolves year 3 with Wiggins, KAT and Lavine was the first time that the rebuild might actually be ending, but this is getting off topic.

So why use it? Because it helped your case?

Context only seems to matter so far as it proves whatever point you're trying to make, so I won't bother delving into the rest.

Substitute turn around long 2s for pull up 3s and their shots selection is kinda similar. Wiggins year 3 averaged 19 shot attempts per game same as Ant year 2 (so far.) Wiggins averaged 23.6 Ant averaged 22. Also before you start remember the coaching and schemes were different and we were a low volume 3 point shooting team compared to the more 3 happy wolves so of course you cannot compare apples to oranges. But then again I feel like that’s what you have been trying to do. Both are players who thrive when they drive yet settle too often for less efficient jump shots.

You're the one comparing them. Can't turn around and say "apples and oranges" now, genius.

You say Ant has a very different attitude, yet he goes entire quarters without shooting and is always smiling even when losing. The biggest off court complaint about Wiggins was his demeanor. You could point out that Wiggins was often more flat and expressionless giving off an air of indifference whereas Ant is vibrant and joking and more charismatic. But at the end of the day, if it doesn’t translate to being more engaged in game what does it matter? With KAT out Ant took 16 shots and scored 19 points. Of those shots 7 were 3s, he hit 1. That means he shot 5 of 9 from inside the arc. Your the advanced stat guy, what did Wiggins shoot at the rim vs Ant, I bet it was similar.

That's on the site you linked from. Are you seriously unwilling to do even that level of basic research yourself?

Yeah, no, that actually legitimately pissed me off. I'm done.

[winforlose]

Your point about sample size is always going to be an issue when comparing veterans to up and comers. If you want a more direct comparison check Wiggins year 3 and Ant this year. But you cannot ignore context of the seasons, team composition, ect… For example Wiggins first year has no KAT or equivalent player, we traded Love for Wiggins and he was the best we had. KAT year one with Wiggins year 2 still isn’t a complete rebuild, expectations were not high yet. Wolves year 3 with Wiggins, KAT and Lavine was the first time that the rebuild might actually be ending, but this is getting off topic.

So why use it? Because it helped your case?

Context only seems to matter so far as it proves whatever point you're trying to make, so I won't bother delving into the rest.

Substitute turn around long 2s for pull up 3s and their shots selection is kinda similar. Wiggins year 3 averaged 19 shot attempts per game same as Ant year 2 (so far.) Wiggins averaged 23.6 Ant averaged 22. Also before you start remember the coaching and schemes were different and we were a low volume 3 point shooting team compared to the more 3 happy wolves so of course you cannot compare apples to oranges. But then again I feel like that’s what you have been trying to do. Both are players who thrive when they drive yet settle too often for less efficient jump shots.

You're the one comparing them. Can't turn around and say "apples and oranges" now, genius.

You say Ant has a very different attitude, yet he goes entire quarters without shooting and is always smiling even when losing. The biggest off court complaint about Wiggins was his demeanor. You could point out that Wiggins was often more flat and expressionless giving off an air of indifference whereas Ant is vibrant and joking and more charismatic. But at the end of the day, if it doesn’t translate to being more engaged in game what does it matter? With KAT out Ant took 16 shots and scored 19 points. Of those shots 7 were 3s, he hit 1. That means he shot 5 of 9 from inside the arc. Your the advanced stat guy, what did Wiggins shoot at the rim vs Ant, I bet it was similar.

That's on the site you linked from. Are you seriously unwilling to do even that level of basic research yourself?

Yeah, no, that actually legitimately pissed me off. I'm done.

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume I am not articulating my point well. Let me try it this way.

My hope is that Ant turns into an elite level slasher given his body control and hang time. My hope is that Ant eventually improves his 3 point shot and more importantly his judgment about when to use it. I have high hopes for Ant. But I also had them for Wiggins. The purpose of showing the comparison was not to say they are the same player, but to show my concern for what Ant might become. There was a day when Wiggins was the great hope of the Wolves, (so much so we kept him and shipped out Lavine for Butler.) Ant is that new hope, (so much so that people on here already say trade KAT because this is Ant’s team.)

Now, since you wanted a stat based comparison as close as is possible I suggested Ant season 2 and Wiggins season 3 because even though there is an experience gap, it was the first year the wolves were trying to win something with their Wiggins/KAT/Lavine core. Just like this is the first year of trying to win with KAT/Dlo/Ant core. The comparison is not perfect and stats will never fully mitigate the variables, but I will link to both for you.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wiggian01/gamelog/2017
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/edwaran01/gamelog/2022

I am not trying to argue nor have I ever tried to argue that they are identical. Ant is shorter but more muscled and has a better handle. Wiggins is taller, lankier, and arguably more athletic (though Ant can still jump out of the gym and has great body control.) Ant is a better defender this year than Wiggins at any point, but if Wiggins had a coach Finch and a proper defensive scheme during his time here who knows what would have happened. As I mentioned above and have been saying it is hard to directly compare because of the variables, like Wiggins being a number 2 on offense behind KAT whereas Ant is number 3 behind KAT and Dlo. I could go on, but the point has been made. I showed you the numbers to help you understand that Ant and Wiggins have some of the same core problems. Those problems include high shot volume low efficiency shooting, settling for lower percentage shots at a high clip, and disappearing for quarters, halves, or whole games. Also again, that measured indifference of Wiggins and that Ant swagger both seem to persist no matter what is happening in the game or season, (but as you pointed out it is a small sample size as we cannot know how Ant will change with age and maturity.)

Again, I don’t want Ant to follow the Wiggins path, but I see enough of the same flaws to worry me. I don’t know why you guys don’t see it as well, but there is enough there to cause concern. I am going to leave it here because I feel like the point has been made enough times now over enough posts that either you follow or you don’t. If you do, then you hope Finch gets through to Ant and finally gets him more involved in the offense, more aggressive in initiating contact, and more determined to attack the basket. If not then let’s hope I was wrong and that when the time comes to max Ant (and we all know it is coming,) we don’t need an owner having a conversation asking for his word that we he will continue to work on his game.

[TheProdigy]

I am not trying to argue nor have I ever tried to argue that they are identical. Ant is shorter but more muscled and has a better handle. Wiggins is taller, lankier, and arguably more athletic (though Ant can still jump out of the gym and has great body control.) Ant is a better defender this year than Wiggins at any point, but if Wiggins had a coach Finch and a proper defensive scheme during his time here who knows what would have happened. As I mentioned above and have been saying it is hard to directly compare because of the variables, like Wiggins being a number 2 on offense behind KAT whereas Ant is number 3 behind KAT and Dlo. I could go on, but the point has been made. I showed you the numbers to help you understand that Ant and Wiggins have some of the same core problems. Those problems include high shot volume low efficiency shooting, settling for lower percentage shots at a high clip, and disappearing for quarters, halves, or whole games. Also again, that measured indifference of Wiggins and that Ant swagger both seem to persist no matter what is happening in the game or season, (but as you pointed out it is a small sample size as we cannot know how Ant will change with age and maturity.)

Edwards is a tier above Wiggins in the athleticism department imo. There is more to being athletic than jumping high (and like you said Edwards can jump very high as well). Edwards outweighs Wiggins by almost 30 pounds, but yet Edwards is still more agile. I'm nitpicking here though, since they're both exceptional athletes.

[fattymcgee]

Your point about sample size is always going to be an issue when comparing veterans to up and comers. If you want a more direct comparison check Wiggins year 3 and Ant this year. But you cannot ignore context of the seasons, team composition, ect… For example Wiggins first year has no KAT or equivalent player, we traded Love for Wiggins and he was the best we had. KAT year one with Wiggins year 2 still isn’t a complete rebuild, expectations were not high yet. Wolves year 3 with Wiggins, KAT and Lavine was the first time that the rebuild might actually be ending, but this is getting off topic.

Substitute turn around long 2s for pull up 3s and their shots selection is kinda similar. Wiggins year 3 averaged 19 shot attempts per game same as Ant year 2 (so far.) Wiggins averaged 23.6 Ant averaged 22. Also before you start remember the coaching and schemes were different and we were a low volume 3 point shooting team compared to the more 3 happy wolves so of course you cannot compare apples to oranges. But then again I feel like that’s what you have been trying to do. Both are players who thrive when they drive yet settle too often for less efficient jump shots.

You say Ant has a very different attitude, yet he goes entire quarters without shooting and is always smiling even when losing. The biggest off court complaint about Wiggins was his demeanor. You could point out that Wiggins was often more flat and expressionless giving off an air of indifference whereas Ant is vibrant and joking and more charismatic. But at the end of the day, if it doesn’t translate to being more engaged in game what does it matter? With KAT out Ant took 16 shots and scored 19 points. Of those shots 7 were 3s, he hit 1. That means he shot 5 of 9 from inside the arc. Your the advanced stat guy, what did Wiggins shoot at the rim vs Ant, I bet it was similar.

You are so determined to show the small differences like a rebound here or an assist there that you miss the larger point. Ant needs to be hungrier, to be more willing to do the things that lead to winning. He has all the potential in the world, just like Wiggins. But until he lives up to it, he is all hype. How many games this season could have been won if Ant didn’t disappear for half the game? On what basis do you say Wiggins year 2 was always going to turn out like Wiggins year 6? Why can’t the same thing happen to Ant if he doesn’t show some damn hunger?

Now you want to compare Wiggins third year with Ant's second year? Wiggins is a year and a half older at that point. You don't think Ant will have any growth in the next year or year and a half?

[winforlose]

Your point about sample size is always going to be an issue when comparing veterans to up and comers. If you want a more direct comparison check Wiggins year 3 and Ant this year. But you cannot ignore context of the seasons, team composition, ect… For example Wiggins first year has no KAT or equivalent player, we traded Love for Wiggins and he was the best we had. KAT year one with Wiggins year 2 still isn’t a complete rebuild, expectations were not high yet. Wolves year 3 with Wiggins, KAT and Lavine was the first time that the rebuild might actually be ending, but this is getting off topic.

Substitute turn around long 2s for pull up 3s and their shots selection is kinda similar. Wiggins year 3 averaged 19 shot attempts per game same as Ant year 2 (so far.) Wiggins averaged 23.6 Ant averaged 22. Also before you start remember the coaching and schemes were different and we were a low volume 3 point shooting team compared to the more 3 happy wolves so of course you cannot compare apples to oranges. But then again I feel like that’s what you have been trying to do. Both are players who thrive when they drive yet settle too often for less efficient jump shots.

You say Ant has a very different attitude, yet he goes entire quarters without shooting and is always smiling even when losing. The biggest off court complaint about Wiggins was his demeanor. You could point out that Wiggins was often more flat and expressionless giving off an air of indifference whereas Ant is vibrant and joking and more charismatic. But at the end of the day, if it doesn’t translate to being more engaged in game what does it matter? With KAT out Ant took 16 shots and scored 19 points. Of those shots 7 were 3s, he hit 1. That means he shot 5 of 9 from inside the arc. Your the advanced stat guy, what did Wiggins shoot at the rim vs Ant, I bet it was similar.

You are so determined to show the small differences like a rebound here or an assist there that you miss the larger point. Ant needs to be hungrier, to be more willing to do the things that lead to winning. He has all the potential in the world, just like Wiggins. But until he lives up to it, he is all hype. How many games this season could have been won if Ant didn’t disappear for half the game? On what basis do you say Wiggins year 2 was always going to turn out like Wiggins year 6? Why can’t the same thing happen to Ant if he doesn’t show some damn hunger?

Now you want to compare Wiggins third year with Ant's second year? Wiggins is a year and a half older at that point. You don't think Ant will have any growth in the next year or year and a half?

As I already said above there is no perfect comparison point because of all the variables. The overall stats show a trajectory that Ant could follow, but year 1 and 2 of Wiggins is rebuild without serious hope of competing, just like year 1 of Ant. Year 3 and 2 respectively are the first competitive years.

[King Malta]

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[winforlose]

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If only he wasn’t 6/19 last night and 2/6 from 3 we might have won the game. I know it’s growing pains and we gotta be patient, but after so many losing seasons I confess to feeling impatient.

[shrink]

I was listening to the Dunc’d On podcast this week, and a listener asked the hosts how good a player would Ant be if he reaches 90% of his ceiling?

Now, Dunc’d On doesn’t always pay the closest of attention to the Wolves. In fact, as I’ve listened over the years, a few times they’ve gone through the teams alphabetically, and completely forgot to talk about MIN! And because they don’t pay close attention, they are lower on Ant. They regular talk about his inefficiency for his entire rookie season, rather than separating out the second half when Chris Finch got here, and he was putting up above average efficiency at a usage rate that would make Bradley Beal take notice.

Anyway, even they can’t deny Ant’s ceiling. They determined if he reached 90% of his ceiling, he’d be a Hall of Famer.

[Zeitgeister]

Why are people comparing Wiggins and Edwards? Edwards started with basketball a bit late, Wiggins father was a pro NBA player, he was around it his entire life. Edwards is already grabbing nearly 2 more rebounds per game than Wiggins career average even though he's shorter than Wiggins. 1.6 spg, Wiggins hovers around 1 for his career, Edwards is also matching Wiggins BPG this season, even though he's smaller. Edwards is a flat out better athlete, better motor, Edwards has a positive BPM, Wiggins has never had a positive BPM in his career. Not saying these metrics are everything but I'm more highlighting an important difference in how these two use their athletic gifts. Edwards is still raw but you can see that the potential is very high with this kid if he manages to polish some of these skills he's developing.

[Klomp]

This may be the biggest separator between Ant and Wiggins....and maybe between Ant and anyone previously in the franchise not named Garnett.

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