Ricky Rubio #9

[PharmD]

Trade for Rubio!
It's a win2win.

I agree 100%, and i saw this which gave me hope:

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/27/nba-rumors-los-angeles-clippers-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-ricky-rubio-2/

I think Rubio is as frustrated as i've seen him in all of his career. His recent comments are not only openly speaking out about their issues (which we all see, including not improving on shot selection) but also include a certain amount of desperation, as in "i dont see change coming...this isnt "trust the process, this is leading nowhere.".

I think any trade involving the Clippers-Wolves for Rubio needs a 3rd team.
Unless we do a favor (gratitude move) to Ricky and let him go for a team with championship hopes.
The Clippers dont have any kind of assets to give us.

Simply getting off Ricky's contract is enough. What's the point of a 17M 30 year old player on a 2 year deal when we're gonna suck ass for the rest of his career? Let him go someplace non-miserable.

[winforlose]

I agree 100%, and i saw this which gave me hope:

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/27/nba-rumors-los-angeles-clippers-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-ricky-rubio-2/

I think Rubio is as frustrated as i've seen him in all of his career. His recent comments are not only openly speaking out about their issues (which we all see, including not improving on shot selection) but also include a certain amount of desperation, as in "i dont see change coming...this isnt "trust the process, this is leading nowhere.".

I think any trade involving the Clippers-Wolves for Rubio needs a 3rd team.
Unless we do a favor (gratitude move) to Ricky and let him go for a team with championship hopes.
The Clippers dont have any kind of assets to give us.

Simply getting off Ricky's contract is enough. What's the point of a 17M 30 year old player on a 2 year deal when we're gonna suck ass for the rest of his career? Let him go someplace non-miserable.

I think of Ricky and the Wolves as a toxic relationship at this point. Ricky is not what we need and we are not what Ricky needs. So let’s trade him and try to grab a late first or a second with a young PG or PF or true C. Plenty of teams are in win now mode and need PG depth. We need a PG with a deep threat or quick step and Ricky needs the structure of an established team with a good scheme.

[PharmD]

I think any trade involving the Clippers-Wolves for Rubio needs a 3rd team.
Unless we do a favor (gratitude move) to Ricky and let him go for a team with championship hopes.
The Clippers dont have any kind of assets to give us.

Simply getting off Ricky's contract is enough. What's the point of a 17M 30 year old player on a 2 year deal when we're gonna suck ass for the rest of his career? Let him go someplace non-miserable.

I think of Ricky and the Wolves as a toxic relationship at this point. Ricky is not what we need and we are not what Ricky needs. So let’s trade him and try to grab a late first or a second with a young PG or PF or true C. Plenty of teams are in win now mode and need PG depth. We need a PG with a deep threat or quick step and Ricky needs the structure of an established team with a good scheme.

I don't think you get that much for him. He hasn't played particularly well and his contract is big.

[winforlose]

Simply getting off Ricky's contract is enough. What's the point of a 17M 30 year old player on a 2 year deal when we're gonna suck ass for the rest of his career? Let him go someplace non-miserable.

I think of Ricky and the Wolves as a toxic relationship at this point. Ricky is not what we need and we are not what Ricky needs. So let’s trade him and try to grab a late first or a second with a young PG or PF or true C. Plenty of teams are in win now mode and need PG depth. We need a PG with a deep threat or quick step and Ricky needs the structure of an established team with a good scheme.

I don't think you get that much for him. He hasn't played particularly well and his contract is big.

The hope is that multiple teams want him and you can play off that. If not, you also have the hope that GMs appreciate being on a bad team with a bad coach has an impact on the numbers. Finally, you point to his increased production since Dlo went out. I think a late first is doable.

[Krapinsky]

Have you ever had the experience of revisiting something nostalgic from your child hood only to be disappointed and realize its just not as good as you once thought now that you've grown, tried new things, and broadened your horizons? That's been the Ricky Rubio experience for me this second time around. Still love Ricky, but sometimes nostalgia is better left as a cherished memory, rather than attempted to be recycled and tarnished. The Wolves are just too far away for him to make an impact and he's rightfully frustrated. Ricky deserves better and we should do him a solid by sending him to a more established, veteran team.

[Merc_Porto]

I agree 100%, and i saw this which gave me hope:

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/27/nba-rumors-los-angeles-clippers-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-ricky-rubio-2/

I think Rubio is as frustrated as i've seen him in all of his career. His recent comments are not only openly speaking out about their issues (which we all see, including not improving on shot selection) but also include a certain amount of desperation, as in "i dont see change coming...this isnt "trust the process, this is leading nowhere.".

I think any trade involving the Clippers-Wolves for Rubio needs a 3rd team.
Unless we do a favor (gratitude move) to Ricky and let him go for a team with championship hopes.
The Clippers dont have any kind of assets to give us.

Simply getting off Ricky's contract is enough. What's the point of a 17M 30 year old player on a 2 year deal when we're gonna suck ass for the rest of his career? Let him go someplace non-miserable.

But on that trade you're getting a 32yo Beverley on a 2 year contract, 14M

[Worm Guts]

Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, and now Ricky Rubio. Homecomings aren't always what you'd hope. It appears the past should be left in the past,

[winforlose]

Ricky is probably a great guy, but that doesn’t mean he is a great fit. Basketball is a business and from that perspective any trade for Ricky that doesn’t bring back negative assets (contracts or players on bad contracts) is a win.

[LesGrossman]

Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, and now Ricky Rubio. Homecomings aren't always what you'd hope. It appears the past should be left in the past,

I dont think it was his choice...the whole thing seems like it happened on a whim, traded to OKC and then to Wolves within hours.

[Merc_Porto]

Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, and now Ricky Rubio. Homecomings aren't always what you'd hope. It appears the past should be left in the past,

I dont think it was his choice...the whole thing seems like it happened on a whim, traded to OKC and then to Wolves within hours.

Was reported that he was asked and accepted the trade and the idea of being a backup point guard.

When i heard that i was kinda dissapointed because he came from his three best years of his career and second... He's no backup to freaking Dlo.

[LesGrossman]

Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, and now Ricky Rubio. Homecomings aren't always what you'd hope. It appears the past should be left in the past,

I dont think it was his choice...the whole thing seems like it happened on a whim, traded to OKC and then to Wolves within hours.

Was reported that he was asked and accepted the trade and the idea of being a backup point guard.

When i heard that i was kinda dissapointed because he came from his three best years of his career and second... He's no backup to freaking Dlo.

I think he was shook by the news that he was traded after what he did in Phoenix.

[Klomp]

Have you ever had the experience of revisiting something nostalgic from your child hood only to be disappointed and realize its just not as good as you once thought now that you've grown, tried new things, and broadened your horizons? That's been the Ricky Rubio experience for me this second time around. Still love Ricky, but sometimes nostalgia is better left as a cherished memory, rather than attempted to be recycled and tarnished. The Wolves are just too far away for him to make an impact and he's rightfully frustrated. Ricky deserves better and we should do him a solid by sending him to a more established, veteran team.

Funny, that's been the RealGM experience for me over the past year or so.....

[shrink]

I think of Ricky and the Wolves as a toxic relationship at this point. Ricky is not what we need and we are not what Ricky needs. So let’s trade him and try to grab a late first or a second with a young PG or PF or true C. Plenty of teams are in win now mode and need PG depth. We need a PG with a deep threat or quick step and Ricky needs the structure of an established team with a good scheme.

I don't think you get that much for him. He hasn't played particularly well and his contract is big.

The hope is that multiple teams want him and you can play off that. If not, you also have the hope that GMs appreciate being on a bad team with a bad coach has an impact on the numbers. Finally, you point to his increased production since Dlo went out. I think a late first is doable.

That’s a good thought.

When I think about the trade that brought him here, I look at the pick swap as pretty neutral, (#17, future 2nd for #25, #28), then Rubio was traded straight up for an expiring James Johnson. OKC did the deal to get out of Rubio’s $19 mil second year, we did the deal because we thought Rubio was a better player and could help us. I love Ricky, but that seems less likely, particularly in a lesser role when DLo gets back.

Getting back to your point, I agree Ricky would help a playoff-bound team, and fortunately, probably 25 teams view themselves this way right now. I think he is a top 30 (starter) PG on the right team. Unfortunately, the PG position is very crowded in the NBA right now, and teams who have already made heavy investments at PG, in salary or draft capital, are likely to stick with who they have.

I think MIN needs to be hoping that a few of these teams see severe injuries to their current starting PG, and that their backup would be overmatched in the playoffs. This can happen, but there might be several teams offering up PG’s if this happens, perhaps guys like Lonzo Ball, Bledsoe, Lowry. MIN could definitely use the financial flexibility of ridding themselves of Rubio’s $19 mil next year, since they are already headed for the lux. I’d love to get a late 1st, but we might see Rosas settle for less.

[SmokeyPaw]

Ricky gets real:

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[Heimdal]

The way I see it, Saunders and Rosas talked to Rubio into coming back and it went something like this:

"Ricky we love you, as you know we wanted to sign you last year. You are just what we need. We want to use multiple ball-handlers and Russell and you together is going to work. We are young and inexperienced and we're sure you can replicate what you did with Mitchell and Booker." --> This, for an hour and then some more, talking about KAT, Flip, Garnett, you name it.

Ricky sees himself starting with Russell, Towns, a #1 pick or a star after trading the pick. "I'm all in! Let's go!"

Rosas and Saunders: "Oh, by the way, if at some point we needed you to come off the bench, would you have a problem with that?"

Ricky: "Oh, what? Ok, I guess" (Rubio is thinking: this is a very remote proposition, right? I mean they've been telling me how much they love me for hours and I'm getting paid like a starter).

Days later, Beasley re-signs, Edwards is drafted, and Rubio realizes he's going to be an afterthought, a backup PG playing 18-20 minutes/game. Huge let down for him and you know the rest.

[winforlose]

Ricky gets real:

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Read on Twitter

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I couldn’t agree more. This is why Ryan starting the season as head coach was such a disaster. Look at the harm our development process has done to guys like Okogie and Culver. Nowell should be better but we wouldn’t even play him last season during the period where we knew we weren’t going anywhere. Ant is developing terrible habits and is obliterating any trade value he might have ever had. Vando still doesn’t know how to catch a pass, I mean honestly have you ever heard an NBA announcer asking why players are passing to someone wide open under the basket? How can we be this bad at teaching good habits to young players. Oh and by the way, we happen to be the youngest team in the league. Hard to trust the Prosas when it aims to play small ball (an inherently flawed concept,) with a loser coach and a losing culture.

[wolves_89]

Rubio quote:

"When you’re young and you gotta play through the mistakes, I understand,” Rubio said, “but at one point, if you do the same mistake over and over again, it means you’re not learning. Learning through mistakes as a young team can happen, but then make different mistakes. I think we’re doing the same mistakes over and over."

I think this captures why the Wolves team is so disappointing and frustrating. It would be somewhat acceptable if the team was really young and clearly improving, but that just isn't happening. Hopefully some time with Finch can get the young guys to correct their glaring problems, but I'm not overly optimistic at this point.

[Sugarless]

Trade for Rubio!
It's a win2win.

I agree 100%, and i saw this which gave me hope:

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/27/nba-rumors-los-angeles-clippers-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-ricky-rubio-2/

I think Rubio is as frustrated as i've seen him in all of his career. His recent comments are not only openly speaking out about their issues (which we all see, including not improving on shot selection) but also include a certain amount of desperation, as in "i dont see change coming...this isnt "trust the process, this is leading nowhere.".

Ricky to LAC has made too much sense for both parties since he was traded to the Thunder. It would be one of those rare instances where the right thing happens for everyone involved (including the Timberwolves at this point).

[Sugarless]

I dont think it was his choice...the whole thing seems like it happened on a whim, traded to OKC and then to Wolves within hours.

Was reported that he was asked and accepted the trade and the idea of being a backup point guard.

When i heard that i was kinda dissapointed because he came from his three best years of his career and second... He's no backup to freaking Dlo.

I think he was shook by the news that he was traded after what he did in Phoenix.

Yep. I listened to him on an interview the day after news of his trade to OKC broke, and it was clear he was caught completely off guard and he was really hurt and confused. The interview wasn't even about basketball, it was about lung cancer and he was invited to talk due to his relation with one of the doctors (who treated his mother) and the work of Ricky's foundation, but of course they had to ask him about the trade, and he was clearly down and kind of out of it in a sense. I think after that the prospect of coming back to Minnesota may have looked like a better option than staying in OKC for a few months and being traded again mid-season (the Thunder never had any intention of keeping him long term), but I was disappointed with the trade and unfortunately things have gone even worse than I'd expected.

[King Malta]

Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, and now Ricky Rubio. Homecomings aren't always what you'd hope. It appears the past should be left in the past,

Don't know about this one.

Sure, the relationship between KG and Glenn has continued to sour, but for this KG fan it was all worth it to see Kevin wear a Wolves jersey one more time, one of my more cherished Wolves memories.....which probably says a bit about the team I guess.