College players thread/ Draft Related thread

zauchary · Post #1381 » by **zauchary** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:31 pm

Pumaman wrote:I agree, Evans has been very good. I have been touting Terrence Williams for a while, I hadn't seen a lot of Evans, but after this game I see that he has the potential to be a unique player in the NBA. Is he coming out this year? If so, where is he projected to go?

the way Evans has finished the season, answering questions of ball-handling ability, i would wager a guess he could be a top seven pick.

john2jer · Post #1382 » by **john2jer** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:51 pm

Evans to the Wolves assuming Griffin, Rubio, and Thabeet aren't options.

LOBO 7 · Post #1383 » by **LOBO 7** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:18 pm

Rubio.

If he declares, do what it takes to get him. We have the pieces to do it, and if he ends up on any other team I'll be devastated. Get it done. If he doesn't declare, I really like Evans or Thabeet, and really like Chazzle Dazzle's idea.

LOBO 7 · Post #1384 » by **LOBO 7** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:22 pm

Clarification: Chazzle Dazzle's idea from page 4 of the 'Ideal Draft' thread

Zeitgeister · Post #1385 » by **Zeitgeister** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:23 pm

john2jer wrote:Rev, doesn't that scream more about coaching issues? If Thabeet is putting up such great numbers, why is he not having more plays run for him?

Not necessarily. It might mean, that he is very good with a low volume of shots but he doesn't have the skills to create his own offense consistently.

LOBO 7 · Post #1386 » by **LOBO 7** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:29 pm

OT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Wayne Ellington that used to post here? He's certainly been blowing up. He's not a good fit here, but DX has him available with the Boston pick...

Devilzsidewalk · Post #1387 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:12 am

Will Graves I guess

Devilzsidewalk · Post #1388 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:14 am

Blake Griffin is kind of beastly did you guys know

and he just hit his head on the corner of the backboard on a dunk :oops:

the_bruce · Post #1389 » by **the_bruce** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:28 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Blake Griffin is kind of beastly did you guys know

and he just hit his head on the corner of the backboard on a dunk

sick

Post #1390 » by **Klomp** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:01 am

Anyone ever see this: http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/d ... .20090318/

NBA.com: Minnesota has one franchise guy in Al Jefferson and then a bunch of role players. The Timberwolves also have three first round picks saved up. Give me a lottery pick with star potential, a mid-first rounder and late first rounder that you think could step in right away and help a team.

Stanco: Arizona State's James Harden has star potential.

At 6-foot-5, he has great size and he does so many things for the Sun Devils. He can attack the rim or shoot from deep, yet he also sees the floor exceptionally well. He's a southpaw who goes left a little too much, yet that's something he will improve upon. I just love his demeanor. He's always poised and has a natural leadership quality that makes others want to follow him even when he's not saying anything.

As for a mid-first rounder, how about Budinger? Budinger was a volleyball star in high school and it shows in his balance. He plays with great fluidity and timing. He also shoots really well from deep and stays remarkably poised regardless of the situation. However, 'Zona fans have been waiting for three years to see him absolutely dominate. They haven't seen it yet.

For a late-first round pick, I'm going with Wake Forest's James Johnson. I get the feeling he'll slide.

Johnson isn't as highly regarded as his teammate Aminu, but he has a better set of skills. Johnson often pushes the ball up himself and is quite adept at finding the open man in transition. He's also a bit heftier than Aminu and he's also a black belt in karate. He reportedly even won a few world championships in kickboxing as a teenager. The grace necessary to compete in martial arts is evident in the way Johnson plays, despite his big frame.

Dan's with the Wolves · Post #1391 » by **Dan's with the Wolves** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:03 pm

Comparison of last year draft to this year mock draft by Draft Express and NBAdraft.net
Pick #
2008 Draft
2009 DX mock
2009 NBADraft.net Mock

2008 Draft
5/6 Love/Gallinari
18 JaValee McGee
23 Kosta Koufas
28 Donte Greene

2009 Draft Express Mock
5/6 Jennings/Henderson
18 BJ Mullins
23 Chase Budinger
28 Sam Young

2009 NBA Draft.net Mock
5/6 Jennings/Derozan
18 Patrick Patterson
23 Omri Casspi
28 Jrue Holiday

2009 might be weaker but it is not a landslide!

deeney0 · Post #1392 » by **deeney0** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:19 pm

It's a lot weaker in comparrison at the top than it is in the middle. 2008 had a drop off after the first 10 picks or so, and the second tier carried into the second round. 2009 has a very quick drop off (top one, or two if Rubio enters) and, similar to 2008, a very large second group of players, to the end of the first or maybe even start of the second. So the picks that will see the greatest difference are ~3-10, right where it would hurt the Wolves the most.

Dan's with the Wolves · Post #1393 » by **Dan's with the Wolves** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:32 pm

Then, in regard to the extra picks 18, 23 & 28, the Wolves aren't that far behind - compared to last year.

LOBO 7 · Post #1394 » by **LOBO 7** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:37 pm

LOBO 7 wrote:OT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Wayne Ellington that used to post here? He's certainly been blowing up. He's not a good fit here, but DX has him available with the Boston pick...

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Will Graves I guess

Ooopsies, my bad. I knew it was one of those 'W' names. Big difference between Will Graves and Wayne Ellington, as apparently Will Graves has been suspended for the season for "vague reasons" :

http://ballhype.com/article/marcus_giny ... ended_for/

Sorry to hear that Will, wherever you are.

Post #1395 » by **revprodeji** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:02 pm

He actually has not posted since the suspension. I thought that was interesting.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #1396 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:04 pm

what was the reason, academic I assume?

deeney0 · Post #1397 » by **deeney0** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:30 pm

Underclassmen have until the end of April to declare for the draft, but BJ Mullins and Nick Calathes have already decided to enter the NBA.

Calathes is an interesting guy, he's got a bit of Marko Jaric in him and he's certainly worthy of discussion at the end of the first round.

Post #1398 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:38 pm

Yeah, I like Calathes as a late-first pickup.

Frozen316 · Post #1399 » by **Frozen316** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:12 pm

http://realgm.net/src_feature_pieces/75 ... hio_state/

big3_8_19_21 · Post #1400 » by **big3_8_19_21** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:09 pm

current .net predictions:
Brandon Jennings
Patrick Patterson
Jrue Holiday

Sherron Collins
Tyrese Rice

I'd take Ty Lawson over Patrick Patterson (who is available on their mock)...but that also leaves us drafting 5 point guards and nothing else...nothing like a little competition, I suppose. The good news is that we should be able to find a starting PG somewhere in this draft.

DX Prediction:
Gerald Henderson
BJ Mullens
Sam Young

Josh Heytvelt
Vitor Faverani