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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#141 » by minimus » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:54 pm

Neeva wrote:Haliburton do we really want another guy that struggles with shooting???


I think he will thrive if we surround him with decent shooters. He can play his strengths: defense, facilitating, directing both defense and offense.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#142 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:54 pm

Neeva wrote:Haliburton do we really want another guy that struggles with shooting???

He doesn't struggle, he's shooting 40%. The question is if it's translatable.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#143 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:28 pm

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Neeva wrote:Haliburton do we really want another guy that struggles with shooting???

He doesn't struggle, he's shooting 40%. The question is if it's translatable.

Define shooting? Do you mean 3 point shooting? 40% on the short college three seems to translate to about 33% or worse for the NBA three. Or is 40% his overall FG%.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#144 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 pm

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minimus wrote:I am starting to watch scouting reports about top10 PG from 2020 draft. Just in case we don't get PG before this deadline. I don't see any other way for Rosas to improve this team. Tank, scout, get high pick, draft wisely.


And your choice for PG's at our pick? I assume anywhere from 5-10.

Anthony Edwards, LaMelo Ball and Hayes will probably be gone by then, so who do you think would be a nice pickup and future starting PG?
I have really only looked at a few past them, but I really like RJ Hampton. Nice size, good handles, he could use a couple of sandwiches, but he looks like a future baller. Needs a better 3 ball, and if he does get one, could be a steal.

Didn't Anthony Edwards die when Maverick ejected him from a fighter jet?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#145 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:36 pm

NBA Draft.net mock
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/
1 Goose
2 Wise Guy
7 Avdija to the Wolves
8 Oturo the Gopher guy
15 This Okoro guy we seem to like so much.
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Post#146 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:44 pm

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Neeva wrote:Haliburton do we really want another guy that struggles with shooting???

He doesn't struggle, he's shooting 40%. The question is if it's translatable.

Define shooting? Do you mean 3 point shooting? 40% on the short college three seems to translate to about 33% or worse for the NBA three. Or is 40% his overall FG%.

This again....?

99.99999% of the time, when someone discusses how a player is as a shooter, they're discussing his 3-point shooting or at least jump shooting as a whole. When talking about his overall skill of putting the ball into the basket, that's usually described as scoring.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#147 » by Jedzz » Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:56 am

minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:Haliburton do we really want another guy that struggles with shooting???


I think he will thrive if we surround him with decent shooters. He can play his strengths: defense, facilitating, directing both defense and offense.


if we surround him with decent shooters?

How is that suppose to happen if they don't start putting shooting skills at the top of any draft selection process? I think they have to start soon.

I think his shot might translate. It's quick and he can get up. Maybe if we steal a shooting coach from Philly or Houston. He seems like an exciting two way player. Little scrawny of course. Which means Wolves might have a shot at him.
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Post#148 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:13 am

Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:He doesn't struggle, he's shooting 40%. The question is if it's translatable.

Define shooting? Do you mean 3 point shooting? 40% on the short college three seems to translate to about 33% or worse for the NBA three. Or is 40% his overall FG%.

This again....?

99.99999% of the time, when someone discusses how a player is as a shooter, they're discussing his 3-point shooting or at least jump shooting as a whole. When talking about his overall skill of putting the ball into the basket, that's usually described as scoring.

And once again there are actually more shots taken that aren't 3s than are so when shooting is talked about it should encompass wherever a player takes a shot from.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#149 » by minimus » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:19 am

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minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:Haliburton do we really want another guy that struggles with shooting???


I think he will thrive if we surround him with decent shooters. He can play his strengths: defense, facilitating, directing both defense and offense.


if we surround him with decent shooters?

How is that suppose to happen if they don't start putting shooting skills at the top of any draft selection process? I think they have to start soon.

I think his shot might translate. It's quick and he can get up. Maybe if we steal a shooting coach from Philly or Houston. He seems like an exciting two way player. Little scrawny of course. Which means Wolves might have a shot at him.


Actually Napier, Nowell, Reid and Crabbe are brought here to improve our shooting.
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Post#150 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:54 am

KGdaBom wrote:And once again there are actually more shots taken that aren't 3s than are so when shooting is talked about it should encompass wherever a player takes a shot from.

Yeah, and those are called layups and dunks, floaters and runners. They are not jump shots, so why should they be classified as such?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#151 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:05 am

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KGdaBom wrote:And once again there are actually more shots taken that aren't 3s than are so when shooting is talked about it should encompass wherever a player takes a shot from.

Yeah, and those are called layups and dunks, floaters and runners. They are not jump shots, so why should they be classified as such?

Every time one of those is taken a shot is registered to the player. They are shots. If a player makes five dunks, or runners or floaters or layups and misses five or any combination thereof that players shooting for that game is 5-10.
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Post#152 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:15 am

KGdaBom wrote:Every time one of those is taken a shot is registered to the player. They are shots. If a player makes five dunks, or runners or floaters or layups and misses five or any combination thereof that players shooting for that game is 5-10.

No, a field goal is registered to the player.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#153 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:37 am

Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Every time one of those is taken a shot is registered to the player. They are shots. If a player makes five dunks, or runners or floaters or layups and misses five or any combination thereof that players shooting for that game is 5-10.

No, a field goal is registered to the player.

A fg or missed fg is registered for every shot regardless of where it is taken from. The gold standard for shooting is 50-40-90. The first number accounts for all shots taken during timed play. The second for only the three point shots taken and the third for FTs. FTs are a unique shot gifted to the player who has been fouled. A person who makes a high percentage of FTs is said to be a good FT shooter. They are all shots. To act like some of them aren't shots to me is ridiculous, but ymmv.
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Post#154 » by Dewey » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:08 pm

minimus wrote:I think he will thrive if we surround him with decent shooters. He can play his strengths: defense, facilitating, directing both defense and offense.


Sounds like Rubio 2.0 ...
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft prospects 

Post#155 » by Jedzz » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:09 pm

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Klomp wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Every time one of those is taken a shot is registered to the player. They are shots. If a player makes five dunks, or runners or floaters or layups and misses five or any combination thereof that players shooting for that game is 5-10.

No, a field goal is registered to the player.

A fg or missed fg is registered for every shot regardless of where it is taken from. The gold standard for shooting is 50-40-90. The first number accounts for all shots taken during timed play. The second for only the three point shots taken and the third for FTs. FTs are a unique shot gifted to the player who has been fouled. A person who makes a high percentage of FTs is said to be a good FT shooter. They are all shots. To act like some of them aren't shots to me is ridiculous, but ymmv.


Now that all that is clear, I want to add that...nope I really don't.
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Post#156 » by minimus » Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:13 pm

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minimus wrote:I think he will thrive if we surround him with decent shooters. He can play his strengths: defense, facilitating, directing both defense and offense.


Sounds like Rubio 2.0 ...


or Shaun Livingston
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He's got the movement skills to where he could play the PF here on both sides of the court in our system. He's a junior, but young for his class at 20 years old. Only three months older than freshman Precious Achiuwa and 15 months younger than junior Obi Toppin.

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Post#160 » by wolfen » Tue Feb 4, 2020 1:11 am

Guys... Cole Anthony. All that needs to be said. He's playing with a team of scrubs who cannot finish his beautiful dimes. NC is terrible. Teams know CA is their only threat so they load up on him, which is why his efficiency numbers aren't the best.

Love this recent quote from the Stepien on him:

Mentality Overview: Competitor on both ends of the court and a real “pros pro” – insanely hard work ethic. Someone who brings it every game on both ends – don’t need to worry about taking nights off. Puts pressure on opposing defenses with his engine-style game and gets into players on defense. He flashes the ability to really try and get back in the play if playing from behind on a play, but I would like to see a more consistent effort – doesn’t always try to get back if he thinks he’s dead in the water / if he has teammates looking to help.

This is the guy this year that if he's there in the draft, and we pass on him, we'll regret it for years to come. The dude is an unquestioned pro and hard worker. He puts MASSIVE pressure on the defense by getting into the lane, has a sweet stroke from deep, can score at all 3 levels. And again, because his team sucks and teams load up on him, his assist to turnover ratio isn't great. Frankly, he might be my pick even if we had the number one pick. He's that good. He's torching FSU as I type this, just swished a long three followed by a sweet rise up pullup J from 17. He's by far the best PG option in the draft when it comes to using his handles and athleticism to break down defenses, which is what the wolves need sorely.

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