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Post#141 » by KGdaBom » Sat Sep 4, 2021 2:55 am

Neeva wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
Neeva wrote:How the **** did Rosas not get that package for Jauncho jesus he is just terrible at trades.


So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.

By just getting rid of them Rosas was a miracle worker. Getting a useful player in Beverley was the icing on the cake.
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Post#142 » by shangrila » Sat Sep 4, 2021 5:08 am

Neeva wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
Neeva wrote:How the **** did Rosas not get that package for Jauncho jesus he is just terrible at trades.


So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.

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Post#143 » by fattymcgee » Sat Sep 4, 2021 5:18 am

Neeva had a good take in his life wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
Neeva had a good take in his life wrote:How the **** did Rosas not get that package for Jauncho jesus he is just terrible at trades.


So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.


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Post#144 » by Battletrigger » Sat Sep 4, 2021 11:39 am

Neeva wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
Neeva wrote:How the **** did Rosas not get that package for Jauncho jesus he is just terrible at trades.


So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.


If you say so...

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Post#145 » by _AIJ_ » Sat Sep 4, 2021 12:19 pm

Neeva wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
Neeva wrote:How the **** did Rosas not get that package for Jauncho jesus he is just terrible at trades.


So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.

I hope you go with him as well
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Post#146 » by winforlose » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:51 pm

Beverly is a vet leader who will inspire defense. Dunn is an injury prone bust who is probably going to end up playing third string. Culver was one of the biggest f***ups in our already abysmal draft history. At this point not paying his salary is a win. Juancho is a guy who cares so much about basketball that right after getting the big contract (big for his skill level) he goes and shoots a movie in Europe and returns unable to catch a pass, hit a shot, or get back on defense. Two end of roster trash players for a former first team defense vet. Give the man a hat and a rabbit and I will call him a magician
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Post#147 » by Slim Tubby » Sat Sep 4, 2021 5:02 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.

By just getting rid of them Rosas was a miracle worker. Getting a useful player in Beverley was the icing on the cake.

This is exactly how I view the trade. Beverly was a very solid return for Rosas. Veteran leader at PG, defensive pest, decent shooter and an Expiring contract that could be moved at the deadline for picks or a younger player.

Rosas has also shown a keen ability to evaluate talent. Ant, McDaniels and Reid were pure genius and Bolmaro is also very promising. He blundered the Saunders hire out of loyalty IMO but owned the mistake and brought in Finch.

There will always be “haters” but from my point of view, he’s done a very good job.


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Post#148 » by Battletrigger » Sat Sep 4, 2021 5:28 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote: Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.

By just getting rid of them Rosas was a miracle worker. Getting a useful player in Beverley was the icing on the cake.

This is exactly how I view the trade. Beverly was a very solid return for Rosas. Veteran leader at PG, defensive pest, decent shooter and an Expiring contract that could be moved at the deadline for picks or a younger player.

Rosas has also shown a keen ability to evaluate talent. Ant, McDaniels and Reid were pure genius and Bolmaro is also very promising. He blundered the Saunders hire out of loyalty IMO but owned the mistake and brought in Finch.

There will always be “haters” but from my point of view, he’s done a very good job.


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You forgot Culver.
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Post#149 » by KGdaBom » Sat Sep 4, 2021 6:23 pm

Battletrigger wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:By just getting rid of them Rosas was a miracle worker. Getting a useful player in Beverley was the icing on the cake.

This is exactly how I view the trade. Beverly was a very solid return for Rosas. Veteran leader at PG, defensive pest, decent shooter and an Expiring contract that could be moved at the deadline for picks or a younger player.

Rosas has also shown a keen ability to evaluate talent. Ant, McDaniels and Reid were pure genius and Bolmaro is also very promising. He blundered the Saunders hire out of loyalty IMO but owned the mistake and brought in Finch.

There will always be “haters” but from my point of view, he’s done a very good job.


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You forgot Culver.

I think we're all trying to forget Culver. Thanks for reminding us. :banghead:
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Post#150 » by Note30 » Sat Sep 4, 2021 10:02 pm

Neeva wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
Neeva wrote:How the **** did Rosas not get that package for Jauncho jesus he is just terrible at trades.


So you'd rather have Kris Dunn who can't shoot a lick instead of Beverly?

Another gm would have gotten better for Jauncho and Culver I am sure of that. Can’t wait for Rosas to be gone in less than a year it is inevitable.


I don't think Boston got a better deal, do you? Culver was a negative at this point.

Not sure what he could have gotten
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Post#151 » by shangrila » Sat Sep 4, 2021 10:31 pm

Battletrigger wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:By just getting rid of them Rosas was a miracle worker. Getting a useful player in Beverley was the icing on the cake.

This is exactly how I view the trade. Beverly was a very solid return for Rosas. Veteran leader at PG, defensive pest, decent shooter and an Expiring contract that could be moved at the deadline for picks or a younger player.

Rosas has also shown a keen ability to evaluate talent. Ant, McDaniels and Reid were pure genius and Bolmaro is also very promising. He blundered the Saunders hire out of loyalty IMO but owned the mistake and brought in Finch.

There will always be “haters” but from my point of view, he’s done a very good job.


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You forgot Culver.

I think it’s fair to give him a mulligan for Culver.

He was only recently hired, from a playoff team (so probably didn’t focus on the lottery guys during the season), got sideswiped by an absolutely illogical team ahead of him and that entire draft looks like dog crap anyway.

If the trend had continued I’d say sure, but considering Culver is so far the only guy they’ve gotten from the draft that hasn’t contributed I’ll cut him some slack.
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Post#152 » by winforlose » Sat Sep 4, 2021 10:40 pm

shangrila wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:This is exactly how I view the trade. Beverly was a very solid return for Rosas. Veteran leader at PG, defensive pest, decent shooter and an Expiring contract that could be moved at the deadline for picks or a younger player.

Rosas has also shown a keen ability to evaluate talent. Ant, McDaniels and Reid were pure genius and Bolmaro is also very promising. He blundered the Saunders hire out of loyalty IMO but owned the mistake and brought in Finch.

There will always be “haters” but from my point of view, he’s done a very good job.


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You forgot Culver.

I think it’s fair to give him a mulligan for Culver.

He was only recently hired, from a playoff team (so probably didn’t focus on the lottery guys during the season), got sideswiped by an absolutely illogical team ahead of him and that entire draft looks like dog crap anyway.

If the trend had continued I’d say sure, but considering Culver is so far the only guy they’ve gotten from the draft that hasn’t contributed I’ll cut him some slack.


Sorry, when you trade your best PF and a lottery first to move up 5 spots from 11 to 6 you better be 100% certain about your pick. On balance he has done well, but the Culver catastrophe is all him.
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Post#153 » by shangrila » Sat Sep 4, 2021 11:50 pm

winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
You forgot Culver.

I think it’s fair to give him a mulligan for Culver.

He was only recently hired, from a playoff team (so probably didn’t focus on the lottery guys during the season), got sideswiped by an absolutely illogical team ahead of him and that entire draft looks like dog crap anyway.

If the trend had continued I’d say sure, but considering Culver is so far the only guy they’ve gotten from the draft that hasn’t contributed I’ll cut him some slack.


Sorry, when you trade your best PF and a lottery first to move up 5 spots from 11 to 6 you better be 100% certain about your pick. On balance he has done well, but the Culver catastrophe is all him.

"Catastrophe" :lol:

"Best PF" :lol:

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Post#154 » by winforlose » Sat Sep 4, 2021 11:58 pm

shangrila wrote:
winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:I think it’s fair to give him a mulligan for Culver.

He was only recently hired, from a playoff team (so probably didn’t focus on the lottery guys during the season), got sideswiped by an absolutely illogical team ahead of him and that entire draft looks like dog crap anyway.

If the trend had continued I’d say sure, but considering Culver is so far the only guy they’ve gotten from the draft that hasn’t contributed I’ll cut him some slack.


Sorry, when you trade your best PF and a lottery first to move up 5 spots from 11 to 6 you better be 100% certain about your pick. On balance he has done well, but the Culver catastrophe is all him.

"Catastrophe" :lol:

"Best PF" :lol:

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Who on the 2019 roster was better at PF? Also what else do you call Culver. Rookie season 40% from the field on 29.9% from 3 and 46% from the free throw line. Those numbers don’t get better in his second year.
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Post#155 » by shangrila » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:16 am

winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Sorry, when you trade your best PF and a lottery first to move up 5 spots from 11 to 6 you better be 100% certain about your pick. On balance he has done well, but the Culver catastrophe is all him.

"Catastrophe" :lol:

"Best PF" :lol:

Cheers for the chuckle.


Who on the 2019 roster was better at PF? Also what else do you call Culver. Rookie season 40% from the field on 29.9% from 3 and 46% from the free throw line. Those numbers don’t get better in his second year.

The guy averaged 10-5. We basically just shipped out the same exact player in Juancho. Saying he's the "best PF" like it means anything is stupid.

I call Culver a bad pick but, as I said, that whole draft sucks. Nor has Culver held the team back or crippled us going forward. So "catastrophe" is some hyperbolic BS.
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Post#156 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:29 am

shangrila wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:This is exactly how I view the trade. Beverly was a very solid return for Rosas. Veteran leader at PG, defensive pest, decent shooter and an Expiring contract that could be moved at the deadline for picks or a younger player.

Rosas has also shown a keen ability to evaluate talent. Ant, McDaniels and Reid were pure genius and Bolmaro is also very promising. He blundered the Saunders hire out of loyalty IMO but owned the mistake and brought in Finch.

There will always be “haters” but from my point of view, he’s done a very good job.


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You forgot Culver.

I think it’s fair to give him a mulligan for Culver.

He was only recently hired, from a playoff team (so probably didn’t focus on the lottery guys during the season), got sideswiped by an absolutely illogical team ahead of him and that entire draft looks like dog crap anyway.

If the trend had continued I’d say sure, but considering Culver is so far the only guy they’ve gotten from the draft that hasn’t contributed I’ll cut him some slack.

This is a reasonable take. I just hated Rosas for signing Saunders. WTH?
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Post#157 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:31 am

winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Sorry, when you trade your best PF and a lottery first to move up 5 spots from 11 to 6 you better be 100% certain about your pick. On balance he has done well, but the Culver catastrophe is all him.

"Catastrophe" :lol:

"Best PF" :lol:

Cheers for the chuckle.


Who on the 2019 roster was better at PF? Also what else do you call Culver. Rookie season 40% from the field on 29.9% from 3 and 46% from the free throw line. Those numbers don’t get better in his second year.

I didn't like the trade. I was all for standing pat and drafting Clarke. Then see what you can get for Saric once we have his replacement.
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Post#158 » by winforlose » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:34 am

shangrila wrote:
winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:"Catastrophe" :lol:

"Best PF" :lol:

Cheers for the chuckle.


Who on the 2019 roster was better at PF? Also what else do you call Culver. Rookie season 40% from the field on 29.9% from 3 and 46% from the free throw line. Those numbers don’t get better in his second year.

The guy averaged 10-5. We basically just shipped out the same exact player in Juancho. Saying he's the "best PF" like it means anything is stupid.

I call Culver a bad pick but, as I said, that whole draft sucks. Nor has Culver held the team back or crippled us going forward. So "catastrophe" is some hyperbolic BS.


Dario was our starting PF. We didn’t have a good replacement ready for him that year. It is a basic fact. I am not saying Dario is Gods gift to basketball, I am saying his relative value was higher on our team because we lacked PF depth.

As for the Culver catastrophe. When you lose a value player and draft a bad player with a high pick what do you call it. Add to that he got worse in his second season and we couldn’t get a second round pick for him going into his third year, what do you call that. He was a freaking 6 pick.
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Post#159 » by KGdaBom » Sun Sep 5, 2021 2:00 am

winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Who on the 2019 roster was better at PF? Also what else do you call Culver. Rookie season 40% from the field on 29.9% from 3 and 46% from the free throw line. Those numbers don’t get better in his second year.

The guy averaged 10-5. We basically just shipped out the same exact player in Juancho. Saying he's the "best PF" like it means anything is stupid.

I call Culver a bad pick but, as I said, that whole draft sucks. Nor has Culver held the team back or crippled us going forward. So "catastrophe" is some hyperbolic BS.


Dario was our starting PF. We didn’t have a good replacement ready for him that year. It is a basic fact. I am not saying Dario is Gods gift to basketball, I am saying his relative value was higher on our team because we lacked PF depth.

As for the Culver catastrophe. When you lose a value player and draft a bad player with a high pick what do you call it. Add to that he got worse in his second season and we couldn’t get a second round pick for him going into his third year, what do you call that. He was a freaking 6 pick.

I call it a bad pick. Not a catastrophe. Losing the 7 pick in the Russell deal stung, but not a catastrophe.
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Post#160 » by shangrila » Sun Sep 5, 2021 2:01 am

winforlose wrote:
shangrila wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Who on the 2019 roster was better at PF? Also what else do you call Culver. Rookie season 40% from the field on 29.9% from 3 and 46% from the free throw line. Those numbers don’t get better in his second year.

The guy averaged 10-5. We basically just shipped out the same exact player in Juancho. Saying he's the "best PF" like it means anything is stupid.

I call Culver a bad pick but, as I said, that whole draft sucks. Nor has Culver held the team back or crippled us going forward. So "catastrophe" is some hyperbolic BS.


Dario was our starting PF. We didn’t have a good replacement ready for him that year. It is a basic fact. I am not saying Dario is Gods gift to basketball, I am saying his relative value was higher on our team because we lacked PF depth.

As for the Culver catastrophe. When you lose a value player and draft a bad player with a high pick what do you call it. Add to that he got worse in his second season and we couldn’t get a second round pick for him going into his third year, what do you call that. He was a freaking 6 pick.

Saric played 24mpg and only started 28 of the 68 games he played for us. He averaged 10-5. He's not the kind of player you get hung up on. Christ, any other year moving from 11 to 6 for only Saric would be considered a coup.

"Catastrophe" :lol:

I've told you what I call the Culver pick. If you're not interested in even reading what I post what is the point of replying?

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