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tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
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Unless he's back on a very favorable deal, NAW is gone after this year.
We just have too many guards that need to play.
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BlacJacMac wrote:Unless he's back on a very favorable deal, NAW is gone after this year.
We just have too many guards that need to play.
I get it. But I actually believe this was a bigger indication that someone like Dillingham isn't a lock for the rotation next year. That last 20 seconds of the video was super telling....
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I think Clark has high basketball IQ at both ends. He may have to take all the NAW minutes next year. Love the little things that he does - the cuts, passes, steals, stay in front of guys
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Maybe it's because I'm just listening back to Dane's podcast from yesterday, but I've been thinking about this. Dane and Jace compared it to something Finch would probably say about Kyle Anderson the previous two years, but I've actually thought about it in relation to another former Wolf (with an assist from Ant).
Zero chance Ant remembers how Beverley looked at age 26, but Finch does. He was an assistant on that Rockets team in 2013-14 that made the Western Conference Finals. Heck, assistant coach Pablo Prigioni was a player on that team, so I guarantee that this has been brought up in film at least once recently. I think they are near-perfect comparisons, because all three of them play within their roles and rarely tried to do too much. Finch said it about Jaylen, "does all the little things without trying to take a huge chunk out of the offense."
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It looks like JC and TJ are our best options playing from corners. While TJ is more about driving, JC is our best off ball, spot up and cut option.
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It is, except Clark was only at the bottom of the 2nd because of his injury.
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It is, except Clark was only at the bottom of the 2nd because of his injury.
I don’t know that I would compare the two. Caruso is more a legit backup PG who can also low volume 3 and high degree D. Clark is more a NAW type Small forward (his game is not really geared toward ball handling or table setting, and his shot is not strong enough for a SG.) I know people dislike this comp, but his high motor, defensive focus, and inconsistent (though admittedly better than expected,) offense make me think more of Josh Okogie. Better in team defense, a little worse at man (tends to get blown by sometimes, and is wasted off ball,) but they are very similar type players overall.
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winforlose wrote:Klomp wrote:
It is, except Clark was only at the bottom of the 2nd because of his injury.
I don’t know that I would compare the two. Caruso is more a legit backup PG who can also low volume 3 and high degree D. Clark is more a NAW type Small forward (his game is not really geared toward ball handling or table setting, and his shot is not strong enough for a SG.) I know people dislike this comp, but his high motor, defensive focus, and inconsistent (though admittedly better than expected,) offense make me think more of Josh Okogie. Better in team defense, a little worse at man (tends to get blown by sometimes, and is wasted off ball,) but they are very similar type players overall.
Yes, he is a SG/SF type player in the NAW mode but way better than Okogie (in my opinion). Great at switching defense and moving on offense. Much better shooter than Okogie. I think he is better than NAW.
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TimberKat wrote:winforlose wrote:Klomp wrote:It is, except Clark was only at the bottom of the 2nd because of his injury.
I don’t know that I would compare the two. Caruso is more a legit backup PG who can also low volume 3 and high degree D. Clark is more a NAW type Small forward (his game is not really geared toward ball handling or table setting, and his shot is not strong enough for a SG.) I know people dislike this comp, but his high motor, defensive focus, and inconsistent (though admittedly better than expected,) offense make me think more of Josh Okogie. Better in team defense, a little worse at man (tends to get blown by sometimes, and is wasted off ball,) but they are very similar type players overall.
Yes, he is a SG/SF type player in the NAW mode but way better than Okogie (in my opinion). Great at switching defense and moving on offense. Much better shooter than Okogie. I think he is better than NAW.
Let’s be candid, he is not a SG. He has not proven he can handle the volume or consistent range of a SG. He is a slightly undersized SF (nothing wrong with that.) Regarding his shot, we have a very small volume in a single season. He has attempted 47 3s on the year. Hitting 21 is impressive, but 21/47 is much easier to do than NAW hitting 124/318. Clark has not demonstrated a mid range shot, his at the basket shot is good (much like JO,) but his getting to the basket is less proven. He may prove to be better offensively than JO, but for now he is largely unproven, and I think the comp is fair.
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winforlose wrote:TimberKat wrote:winforlose wrote:
I don’t know that I would compare the two. Caruso is more a legit backup PG who can also low volume 3 and high degree D. Clark is more a NAW type Small forward (his game is not really geared toward ball handling or table setting, and his shot is not strong enough for a SG.) I know people dislike this comp, but his high motor, defensive focus, and inconsistent (though admittedly better than expected,) offense make me think more of Josh Okogie. Better in team defense, a little worse at man (tends to get blown by sometimes, and is wasted off ball,) but they are very similar type players overall.
Yes, he is a SG/SF type player in the NAW mode but way better than Okogie (in my opinion). Great at switching defense and moving on offense. Much better shooter than Okogie. I think he is better than NAW.
Let’s be candid, he is not a SG. He has not proven he can handle the volume or consistent range of a SG. He is a slightly undersized SF (nothing wrong with that.) Regarding his shot, we have a very small volume in a single season. He has attempted 47 3s on the year. Hitting 21 is impressive, but 21/47 is much easier to do than NAW hitting 124/318. Clark has not demonstrated a mid range shot, his at the basket shot is good (much like JO,) but his getting to the basket is less proven. He may prove to be better offensively than JO, but for now he is largely unproven, and I think the comp is fair.
He hasn't played much so unproven but from the minutes I did watch him play, I am fairly confident he will be at least a good role player in NBA. We had him guard Zion. He plays guard at UCLA. I can see him as backup for 2 and 3. Not sure if he could be a starter like Bane.
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It feels like when Clark plays more than 15 minutes he has at least one basket just by moving without the ball
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I hope we get some Clark minutes. He can really swing momentum with his defense and GSW have a lot of smaller offball guys, along with some guys who aren't as great handling that he could give problems too.
Besides being opportunistic shooting and making, he moves well off the ball and is a timely cutter. Could really help when we aren't making those 3s.
Also just getting him playoff minutes would be valuable for his development, imo.
Besides being opportunistic shooting and making, he moves well off the ball and is a timely cutter. Could really help when we aren't making those 3s.
Also just getting him playoff minutes would be valuable for his development, imo.
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Clark is also one of our higher bbiq players. Uses angles well to conserve moment and energy and reads things faster than a lot of our other guys.
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I'd strongly consider playing Clark against the Warriors. Tell him his one job is to make sure Buddy Hield never gets a clean 3pt look. In the first game, the team struggled keeping track of Hield and it cost them big time.
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