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Post#1461 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:48 am

Klomp wrote:If the doctor clears him, he should play


Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

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Post#1462 » by KGdaBom » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:54 am

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Klomp wrote:If the doctor clears him, he should play


Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

Trust, I don't have much.

The Wolves Drs. have nothing to gain by clearing him if he isn't good. They will err on the side of caution. If Towns feels great he may be pissed.
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Post#1463 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:56 am

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Klomp wrote:If the doctor clears him, he should play


Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

Trust, I don't have much.

He didn't skip the ASG because of the knee
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Post#1464 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:49 am

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Klomp wrote:If the doctor clears him, he should play


Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

Trust, I don't have much.

The Wolves Drs. have nothing to gain by clearing him if he isn't good. They will err on the side of caution. If Towns feels great he may be pissed.


Whatever. You are attempting to win an argument on the internet by focusing on something that wasn't your point or my point to begin with so I'm not going down this tangent with you. I will say team doctors have plenty of incentives for placating to the team or player's choices. History in sports says they do.
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Post#1465 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:51 am

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Klomp wrote:If the doctor clears him, he should play


Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

Trust, I don't have much.

He didn't skip the ASG because of the knee


ok. Must have been his wedding or his trip to the moon then. I wouldn't know what your claim is because you rarely explain things you are trying to correct us about.
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Post#1466 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:46 am

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Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

Trust, I don't have much.

He didn't skip the ASG because of the knee


ok. Must have been his wedding or his trip to the moon then. I wouldn't know what your claim is because you rarely explain things you are trying to correct us about.

Well for one thing, the game's box score listed him as DNP-illness, not DNP-knee. Combined with him being in someone's Instagram video at 4 a.m. the morning before the game taking shots, he probably missed it because of a hangover.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread** 

Post#1467 » by KGdaBom » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:17 am

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KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Like they cleared Butler for 38 minutes after he complained of knee soreness and skipped the allstar game?

Trust, I don't have much.

The Wolves Drs. have nothing to gain by clearing him if he isn't good. They will err on the side of caution. If Towns feels great he may be pissed.


Whatever. You are attempting to win an argument on the internet by focusing on something that wasn't your point or my point to begin with so I'm not going down this tangent with you. I will say team doctors have plenty of incentives for placating to the team or player's choices. History in sports says they do.

Not trying to win. I'm not even making much of a point. I think my point is indisputable. If he is healthy he should play. If he isn't he shouldn't. It's the TEAMS DRS. They will be more likely to side with the teams desires. Doesn't that make the most sense. That is why sometimes players seek another opinion if they don't trust the team or their drs.
I'm hoping his injury turns out to be a non-injury. I think KAT deserves to right to play for his however many millions of dollars and as a basketball fan I want to see him play. Once again ONLY IF HEALTHY.
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Post#1468 » by Basti » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:42 am

It says the MRI results don't show any major damage which is a good sign but I can't wrap my head around calling it "knee soreness" if KAT himself apparently said "it just popped"

Consider me still worried.
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Post#1469 » by Domejandro » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:55 am

Basti wrote:It says the MRI results don't show any major damage which is a good sign but I can't wrap my head around calling it "knee soreness" if KAT himself apparently said "it just popped"

Consider me still worried.

If there was knee stiffness (after the collision), he could have just tweaked it and felt as if he popped something. A ton of people think their knee "popped" when in reality no structural damage occurred. The first instinct is often times to catastrophize and assume the worst.
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Post#1470 » by Basti » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:03 am

Fair enough. I hope you are right.
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Post#1471 » by Derek2001 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:49 pm

Basti wrote:It says the MRI results don't show any major damage which is a good sign but I can't wrap my head around calling it "knee soreness" if KAT himself apparently said "it just popped"

Consider me still worried.



Me too !

Robert Covington was supposed to have a bone bruise obviously he has something a lot more serious than that. Transparency is not one of the Wolves front office strong points. Kat said he heard a pop, that's not soreness my friends. I'm guessing it's ligament or meniscus damage ....they just don't want it to hurt next season ticket sales.
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Post#1472 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:54 pm

Bone bruises can be serious.

And there have been times where someone heard a pop and there wasn't ligament/meniscus damage. Can still have a sore knee following that, if that's the case.
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Post#1473 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:00 pm

Klomp wrote:
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Klomp wrote:He didn't skip the ASG because of the knee


ok. Must have been his wedding or his trip to the moon then. I wouldn't know what your claim is because you rarely explain things you are trying to correct us about.

Well for one thing, the game's box score listed him as DNP-illness, not DNP-knee. Combined with him being in someone's Instagram video at 4 a.m. the morning before the game taking shots, he probably missed it because of a hangover.


Butler said Knee soreness was the reason he wasn't going to compete in the allstar game. He said this well before the morning of. Staying up late and partying on his off weekend is up to him. I'm not privy to whether those are alcoholic shots or basketball shots you speak of but neither has anything to do with sore knees.

The knee soreness was also reported by him in the week or so before leading up to the event. Which made it no big surprise when he skipped it. The surprise came after, when he went right into 38 minute games and buckled a knee in "non contact" movement.
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Post#1474 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:04 pm

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Basti wrote:It says the MRI results don't show any major damage which is a good sign but I can't wrap my head around calling it "knee soreness" if KAT himself apparently said "it just popped"

Consider me still worried.



Me too !

Robert Covington was supposed to have a bone bruise obviously he has something a lot more serious than that. Transparency is not one of the Wolves front office strong points. Kat said he heard a pop, that's not soreness my friends. I'm guessing it's ligament or meniscus damage ....they just don't want it to hurt next season ticket sales.


I would agree they are not forthcoming. I can see them hiding even a small start of a tear if they would even notice that on a scan right after the injury occurs. Ryan's quote even made it sound like no one ever discussed the idea of a major injury. They couldn't even be straight about saying initial signs say its not a big deal. Everything is a big hush hush loose lips sink ships story in Minnesota. Everyone thinks the little world they live in is so important.
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Post#1475 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:08 pm

Jedzz wrote:Butler said Knee soreness was the reason he wasn't going to compete in the allstar game. He said this well before the morning of. Staying up late and partying on his off weekend is up to him. I'm not privy to whether those are alcoholic shots or basketball shots you speak of but neither has anything to do with sore knees.

The knee soreness was also reported by him in the week or so before leading up to the event. Which made it no big surprise when he skipped it. The surprise came after, when he went right into 38 minute games and buckled a knee in "non contact" movement.

Again, if that's the case, why was it reported in the official box score as DNP-illness?
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Post#1476 » by Derek2001 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:08 pm

Klomp wrote:Bone bruises can be serious.

And there have been times where someone heard a pop and there wasn't ligament/meniscus damage. Can still have a sore knee following that, if that's the case.



Sorry not buying the bone bruise bologna. I have a feeling we're going to find out the towns injury is a lot worse than what they're letting on as well.
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Post#1477 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:14 pm

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Basti wrote:It says the MRI results don't show any major damage which is a good sign but I can't wrap my head around calling it "knee soreness" if KAT himself apparently said "it just popped"

Consider me still worried.

If there was knee stiffness (after the collision), he could have just tweaked it and felt as if he popped something. A ton of people think their knee "popped" when in reality no structural damage occurred. The first instinct is often times to catastrophize and assume the worst.


That is especially true for someone that has never had a knee or any kind of serious sports injury. He easily could have overplayed it for us all to see just because it scared him.

One thing however. It's very typical to initially tweak a knee, be it stretching a ligament too much or whatever that weakens it, and then to do more damage by continuing to play on it before it can have a chance to heal. The sequence of events we saw play out fits.

Knees can swell up after a period of time after an injury. Continuing to play on it like he did could maybe keep it lose. Maybe after sitting for a couple minutes it started to swell and affected things.

No structural damage doesn't simply explain what we saw go down. Something occurred. Maybe not as big an issue as Towns portrayed but something occurred in that knee.

What I found most interesting was when he was sitting on the bench and no trainers or doctors were around him. He was sitting by himself. Such a strange franchise.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread** 

Post#1478 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:17 pm

Klomp wrote:
Jedzz wrote:Butler said Knee soreness was the reason he wasn't going to compete in the allstar game. He said this well before the morning of. Staying up late and partying on his off weekend is up to him. I'm not privy to whether those are alcoholic shots or basketball shots you speak of but neither has anything to do with sore knees.

The knee soreness was also reported by him in the week or so before leading up to the event. Which made it no big surprise when he skipped it. The surprise came after, when he went right into 38 minute games and buckled a knee in "non contact" movement.

Again, if that's the case, why was it reported in the official box score as DNP-illness?


Because the official box score often says whatever. Maybe nobody informed them. It's not like there is a real team to contact or that would regularly report at the given time.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread** 

Post#1479 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:19 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:The Wolves Drs. have nothing to gain by clearing him if he isn't good. They will err on the side of caution. If Towns feels great he may be pissed.


Whatever. You are attempting to win an argument on the internet by focusing on something that wasn't your point or my point to begin with so I'm not going down this tangent with you. I will say team doctors have plenty of incentives for placating to the team or player's choices. History in sports says they do.

Not trying to win. I'm not even making much of a point. I think my point is indisputable. If he is healthy he should play. If he isn't he shouldn't. It's the TEAMS DRS. They will be more likely to side with the teams desires. Doesn't that make the most sense. That is why sometimes players seek another opinion if they don't trust the team or their drs.
I'm hoping his injury turns out to be a non-injury. I think KAT deserves to right to play for his however many millions of dollars and as a basketball fan I want to see him play. Once again ONLY IF HEALTHY.
I know ONLY IF HEALTHY. Very Clear and yet so very up in the air.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread** 

Post#1480 » by Jedzz » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:22 pm

I'll end my concern on Towns knee now. Go ahead and play him and let's see how long he lasts. Maybe we can bet on it in Vegas.

All this team does is win when Wiggins and Towns are missing anyway.

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