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Trade Talk (Part Five)

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Post#1461 » by Jedzz » Tue Jan 5, 2021 5:17 am

RiRuHoops wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:The ideal player I would love to bring in would be Al Harford. He has winning experience, great rebounder, defender and can knock down open 3's Plus add in that facts him and Towns have a bond together and he plays on a team trying to rebuild. I just hate that contract and cant find a way to bring him in without moving one of our top 3 salaries which would be counter productive.


I seriously would take Horford over Russel. Might as well start playing defense at some point in this club history and get Towns a mentor who can protect his soft ass.


Rubio + Edwards nets you a match for Al Horford.

Juancho, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie, Vanderbilt also matches

Rubio, Culver, Davis

Edwards, Culver, Juancho, Davis

I guess they might take one of these to shorten how long they have 27 million tied up by a year or two.

Al is in this 14th season though. You know that right?

Dlo, Beasley, Culver, Horford, Towns
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1462 » by minimus » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:47 am

I dont know whether it works under CBA rules, but Culver, Nowell, Ed Davis for Aaron Baynes, OG Anunoby makes sense for both teams. I think that both Culver and Nowell might develop in TOR into really solid players. Next year we need to trade Rubio or Bealey to get under tax, but this lineup looks balanced to me.

Reid/Baynes + KAT
Anunoby/Juancho/Vando
Okogie/Layman/McDaniels
Beasley/Edwards/Okogie
DLo/Rubio/JMac

P.S. I always thought that TOR, BOS could use our first-round pick to get their chance to develop Wiseman. But their fans had that irrational faith in Ujiri, Ainge and their assets...
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1463 » by SkyhookinUrMom » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:04 am

Jedzz wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:The ideal player I would love to bring in would be Al Harford. He has winning experience, great rebounder, defender and can knock down open 3's Plus add in that facts him and Towns have a bond together and he plays on a team trying to rebuild. I just hate that contract and cant find a way to bring him in without moving one of our top 3 salaries which would be counter productive.


I seriously would take Horford over Russel. Might as well start playing defense at some point in this club history and get Towns a mentor who can protect his soft ass.


Rubio + Edwards nets you a match for Al Horford.

Juancho, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie, Vanderbilt also matches

Rubio, Culver, Davis

Edwards, Culver, Juancho, Davis

I guess they might take one of these to shorten how long they have 27 million tied up by a year or two.

Al is in this 14th season though. You know that right?

Dlo, Beasley, Culver, Horford, Towns


lolwut Edwards

man Idk what you got with Dlo but it aint healthy :lol: :lol:
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1464 » by Shaka_Zulu » Tue Jan 5, 2021 1:31 pm

Are you guys serious with trading assets for Al "I'm bout to retire" Horford on his insane contract?


We should talk again when his oversized near max contract expires and he can be had for cheap. But he is too physically spent to be given up any useful players for (I watched him for Philly, and he was outright bad majority of the time).

He is the ideal type of modern big we should be after, but he is in the wrong end of the spectrum career wise, physically speaking and most importantly too overpaid. With what he currently gives you, he should at most have the kind of contract Rubio has.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1465 » by thinktank » Tue Jan 5, 2021 1:55 pm

I’m seeing a lot of deals proposed that do mortgage part of our future.

Not cool.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1466 » by Jedzz » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:42 pm

SkyhookinUrMom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:
I seriously would take Horford over Russel. Might as well start playing defense at some point in this club history and get Towns a mentor who can protect his soft ass.


Rubio + Edwards nets you a match for Al Horford.

Juancho, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie, Vanderbilt also matches

Rubio, Culver, Davis

Edwards, Culver, Juancho, Davis

I guess they might take one of these to shorten how long they have 27 million tied up by a year or two.

Al is in this 14th season though. You know that right?

Dlo, Beasley, Culver, Horford, Towns


lolwut Edwards

man Idk what you got with Dlo but it aint healthy :lol: :lol:


that he keeps Towns from saying TRADE ME. good enough for you?
I could add plenty more reasons but my second reason would be SHOOTING.

I've had enough of non shooters for years. If we keep our shot capable players, this means they can have a couple defender extraordainaires that can't shoot and still get by.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1467 » by RiRuHoops » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:48 pm

Jedzz wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:
DaMplsKid wrote:The ideal player I would love to bring in would be Al Harford. He has winning experience, great rebounder, defender and can knock down open 3's Plus add in that facts him and Towns have a bond together and he plays on a team trying to rebuild. I just hate that contract and cant find a way to bring him in without moving one of our top 3 salaries which would be counter productive.


I seriously would take Horford over Russel. Might as well start playing defense at some point in this club history and get Towns a mentor who can protect his soft ass.


Rubio + Edwards nets you a match for Al Horford.

Juancho, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie, Vanderbilt also matches

Rubio, Culver, Davis

Edwards, Culver, Juancho, Davis

I guess they might take one of these to shorten how long they have 27 million tied up by a year or two.

Al is in this 14th season though. You know that right?

Dlo, Beasley, Culver, Horford, Towns



Horford is a bad contract. Russel is a bad contract. There's a correlation there. None your player/salary packages have negative value.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1468 » by Jedzz » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:55 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:
I seriously would take Horford over Russel. Might as well start playing defense at some point in this club history and get Towns a mentor who can protect his soft ass.


Rubio + Edwards nets you a match for Al Horford.

Juancho, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie, Vanderbilt also matches

Rubio, Culver, Davis

Edwards, Culver, Juancho, Davis

I guess they might take one of these to shorten how long they have 27 million tied up by a year or two.

Al is in this 14th season though. You know that right?

Dlo, Beasley, Culver, Horford, Towns



Horford is a bad contract. Russel is a bad contract. There's a correlation there. None your player/salary packages have negative value.

Not certain that OKC is looking to move their bad contracts for more bad contracts. Although Dlo is younger so maybe that fits them. For the same reason I keep Dlo. If this team can build something with him and Towns we have that longer term than Horford. Probably can't though so none of this matters. I just threw out alternative matches if people want horford here.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1469 » by RiRuHoops » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:56 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:Are you guys serious with trading assets for Al "I'm bout to retire" Horford on his insane contract?


We should talk again when his oversized near max contract expires and he can be had for cheap. But he is too physically spent to be given up any useful players for (I watched him for Philly, and he was outright bad majority of the time).

He is the ideal type of modern big we should be after, but he is in the wrong end of the spectrum career wise, physically speaking and most importantly too overpaid. With what he currently gives you, he should at most have the kind of contract Rubio has.


Well, Dlo is hardly an asset. He's a bum contract, Wiggins lite.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1470 » by RiRuHoops » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:01 pm

Jedzz wrote:
RiRuHoops wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Rubio + Edwards nets you a match for Al Horford.

Juancho, Culver, Davis, Layman, Okogie, Vanderbilt also matches

Rubio, Culver, Davis

Edwards, Culver, Juancho, Davis

I guess they might take one of these to shorten how long they have 27 million tied up by a year or two.

Al is in this 14th season though. You know that right?

Dlo, Beasley, Culver, Horford, Towns



Horford is a bad contract. Russel is a bad contract. There's a correlation there. None your player/salary packages have negative value.

Not certain that OKC is looking to move their bad contracts for more bad contracts. Although Dlo is younger so maybe that fits them. For the same reason I keep Dlo. If this team can build something with him and Towns we have that longer term than Horford. Probably can't though so none of this matters. I just threw out alternative matches if people want horford here.


I feel like Prestie will soon realize that Horford still brings wins. Dlo will lube his tank like no other.
Wolves need to separate this loser from Towns even if Towns doesn't like it. Plus Horford is someone Towns knows well and can be a figure of authority for him, kind of like KG.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1471 » by DaMplsKid » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:06 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:Are you guys serious with trading assets for Al "I'm bout to retire" Horford on his insane contract?


We should talk again when his oversized near max contract expires and he can be had for cheap. But he is too physically spent to be given up any useful players for (I watched him for Philly, and he was outright bad majority of the time).

He is the ideal type of modern big we should be after, but he is in the wrong end of the spectrum career wise, physically speaking and most importantly too overpaid. With what he currently gives you, he should at most have the kind of contract Rubio has.


Not sure this is directed at me? I simple stated he is the "Type" of player that would normally be a great fit. He has the experience we really lack but can still play. He is a great rebounder and defender still, plus can knock down open 3's. Add to that he is on a team going nowhere. But I added his contact make it impossible for us to get him. People threw out trades that would work contract wise but don't think they were actual saying we should make any of them.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1472 » by Norseman79 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 5:23 pm

This organization has done enough for Kat, if he can't see that and still isn't happy, then trade his prima donna ass.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1473 » by Jedzz » Tue Jan 5, 2021 5:28 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Wolves need to separate this loser from Towns even if Towns doesn't like it.


Those be hater terms. Consider yourself categorized.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1474 » by Jedzz » Tue Jan 5, 2021 5:29 pm

Norseman79 wrote:This organization has done enough for Kat, if he can't see that and still isn't happy, then trade his prima donna ass.


Where is this coming from? Guy say something I don't know about? Or is this in people's heads right now?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1475 » by Neeva » Tue Jan 5, 2021 6:06 pm

minimus wrote:I dont know whether it works under CBA rules, but Culver, Nowell, Ed Davis for Aaron Baynes, OG Anunoby makes sense for both teams. I think that both Culver and Nowell might develop in TOR into really solid players. Next year we need to trade Rubio or Bealey to get under tax, but this lineup looks balanced to me.

Reid/Baynes + KAT
Anunoby/Juancho/Vando
Okogie/Layman/McDaniels
Beasley/Edwards/Okogie
DLo/Rubio/JMac

P.S. I always thought that TOR, BOS could use our first-round pick to get their chance to develop Wiseman. But their fans had that irrational faith in Ujiri, Ainge and their assets...


Anunoby is way too overpaid for an offensively challenged player whose defense is also overated.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1476 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jan 5, 2021 7:23 pm

Wiggins would really help OKC and Presti tank...

OKC: Horford + Pokusevski + Return of 2021 Warriors 1st + As many owed 1sts as Rosas can get from Presti.
FOR
Wiggins
Wiseman

Warriors: Wiggins + Wiseman + 2021 1st (unprotected) + 2021 Wolves 1st + 2022&2023 1st Swap (unprotected)
FOR
Towns
Beasley

Wolves: Towns + Beasley
FOR
Horford
Pokusevski
2021 Wolves 1st (returned)
2021 Warriors 1st (unprotected)
2022&2023 Warriors 1st Swap (unprotected)
For Starters: 2021 & 2024 Rockets 1st (if no Harden could be juicy)

I am fine with not building around another center (Wiseman) in a guard/wing centric NBA. Let Horford hold down fort and earn back some value.
Horford | Reid
Pokusevski | Hernangomez
Culver | Layman
Edwards | Russell | Okogie
Rubio* | Russell
*Shop Rubio for assets, let Russell lead tank for 2021. Maybe in a year+ putting up empty high usage stats Russell can be dealt for assets.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1477 » by Guidus88 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 8:13 pm

Wolveswin wrote:Wiggins would really help OKC and Presti tank...

OKC: Horford + Pokusevski + Return of 2021 Warriors 1st + As many owed 1sts as Rosas can get from Presti.
FOR
Wiggins
Wiseman

Warriors: Wiggins + Wiseman + 2021 1st (unprotected) + 2021 Wolves 1st + 2022&2023 1st Swap (unprotected)
FOR
Towns
Beasley

Wolves: Towns + Beasley
FOR
Horford
Pokusevski
2021 Wolves 1st (returned)
2021 Warriors 1st (unprotected)
2022&2023 Warriors 1st Swap (unprotected)
For Starters: 2021 & 2024 Rockets 1st (if no Harden could be juicy)

I am fine with not building around another center (Wiseman) in a guard/wing centric NBA. Let Horford hold down fort and earn back some value.
Horford | Reid
Pokusevski | Hernangomez
Culver | Layman
Edwards | Russell | Okogie
Rubio* | Russell
*Shop Rubio for assets, let Russell lead tank for 2021. Maybe in a year+ putting up empty high usage stats Russell can be dealt for assets.


Easy no for me.

We are not trading our two best player, and a franchise player, for a couple of picks, a potential bust and a bad contract.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1478 » by minimus » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:08 pm

Neeva wrote:
minimus wrote:I dont know whether it works under CBA rules, but Culver, Nowell, Ed Davis for Aaron Baynes, OG Anunoby makes sense for both teams. I think that both Culver and Nowell might develop in TOR into really solid players. Next year we need to trade Rubio or Bealey to get under tax, but this lineup looks balanced to me.

Reid/Baynes + KAT
Anunoby/Juancho/Vando
Okogie/Layman/McDaniels
Beasley/Edwards/Okogie
DLo/Rubio/JMac

P.S. I always thought that TOR, BOS could use our first-round pick to get their chance to develop Wiseman. But their fans had that irrational faith in Ujiri, Ainge and their assets...


Anunoby is way too overpaid for an offensively challenged player whose defense is also overated.


I do believe that KAT will make Anunoby life much easier in offense, while Anunoby will be a big, strong, mobile, defensive minded wing who KAT never had as froncourt teammate. Anunoby is easily an ideal fit at PF in our system.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1479 » by Neeva » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:27 pm

No thanks stop overating Anunoby please.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1480 » by Neeva » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:31 pm

Guidus88 wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Wiggins would really help OKC and Presti tank...

OKC: Horford + Pokusevski + Return of 2021 Warriors 1st + As many owed 1sts as Rosas can get from Presti.
FOR
Wiggins
Wiseman

Warriors: Wiggins + Wiseman + 2021 1st (unprotected) + 2021 Wolves 1st + 2022&2023 1st Swap (unprotected)
FOR
Towns
Beasley

Wolves: Towns + Beasley
FOR
Horford
Pokusevski
2021 Wolves 1st (returned)
2021 Warriors 1st (unprotected)
2022&2023 Warriors 1st Swap (unprotected)
For Starters: 2021 & 2024 Rockets 1st (if no Harden could be juicy)

I am fine with not building around another center (Wiseman) in a guard/wing centric NBA. Let Horford hold down fort and earn back some value.
Horford | Reid
Pokusevski | Hernangomez
Culver | Layman
Edwards | Russell | Okogie
Rubio* | Russell
*Shop Rubio for assets, let Russell lead tank for 2021. Maybe in a year+ putting up empty high usage stats Russell can be dealt for assets.


Easy no for me.

We are not trading our two best player, and a franchise player, for a couple of picks, a potential bust and a bad contract.



I can see the warriors being interested in Kat in his prime to play along Curry and Klay in their twilight seasons.
But i wouldn’t want wiseman he is mobile
but does not rebound and looks lost defensively. I would want Evan Mobley as our center of the future.
So maybe send Wiseman to Memphis for their 2021 pick (lightly protect e and Clarke?)
The big prize is getting our 2022 pick back and hopefully it turns into Chet Holmgren or Emoni Bates players that can be better than KAT in the long run but who the warriors can’t wait for since they need to win NOW.

KAT to warriors
Wiseman to Memphis
Clark, 2021 memphis mid lotto pick, wolves pick returned,2021 warrior frp (late pick), 2022 warriors frp (late pick), filler

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