2020 NBA Draft prospects

[old school 34]

It's been said by others before, but he does give off similar vibes to Wiggins.

A lot have said that. Does this sound like Wiggins though?

“(Edwards) did have a lot to learn and a lot to be more responsible for as a basketball player,” Crean said. “He worked really hard at that and he is one of the greatest teammates I have ever been around. In 20 years as a head coach and an assistant coach before that, he is one of the absolutely-most infectious personalities with his teammates. He wanted his teammates to be successful.”

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/tom-crean-explains-why-anthony-edwards-can-be-an-nba-all-star-and-all-defensive-player/

When will people realise that this kind of flowery bull is just that?

His pre-game ritual could be feeding starving children and it still doesn't mean a thing when he's as dumb as a brick on the court and showed no real growth as the season progressed.

I'm nervous about Edwards (put Ball & to a lesser extent Wiseman in this as well) like many as to what they see on film....but the ceiling is real....& the interview process and evaluating how this guy will respond to your coaches in your program (which none of us will be privy to) makes that decision if we keep the pick? After the interview how confident do you feel he's Wiggins or Brown (like someone mentioned)...if you feel the later & he's the pick that further creates the logjam of 2's & not that you can just play smaller at the 3...but at some point would like someone in that group moved for a longer wing?

Last point...Edwards @ his ceiling or reasonably close....does give you a physical athlete type that could be a point of attack defender that would blend really well off Dlo....just find a way to magically stretch Beasley to about 6-8"...he's your 3 & let's move on...lol.

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[KGdaBom]

Fair enough. I thnk Minny would regret not selecting Wiseman. He could end up taking so much pressure off KAT on both ends.

Most sources I have seen think the Warriors want Wiseman if they don't trade the pick.

Really? I haven't seen them. I have read a few times the Warriors not wanting him, so who knows really.

If Wiseman is there after you guys pick, and Myers doesn't take him, I'll fly to San Fransisco and slap him, hard.

CBS sports just called the Warriors the biggest winner of the Lottery night, because no way the Wolves take Wiseman so the Warriors get him.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-draft-lottery-winners-losers-knicks-fans-suffer-yet-again-warriors-get-valuable-trade-asset/
Tankathon has the Warriors taking Wiseman. I believe there are many more sources of the same opinion.

[No-Man]

tankathon is a german dude with no sources, CBS is also just speculating, trying to drive traffic, if you think that dude has any sources... lmao, most trust worthy reports showed that the Warriors (at least the front office, owner could always impose guys and change things) don't care much for him

[DAWill1128]

I would have thought Wolves fans would be on board with Edwards. We have considered Edwards because he's got that insanely elite athletic ability (42 inch vert) with the handles and bucket hunting mentality that Mitchell and Oladipo have. But I could see not wanting to end up in the Wiggins situation of an elite athlete that's just missing something.

I think Avdija might be your guy, maybe not the best long term guy but he's a good fit. He's like a lesser man's Luka Doncic. Tall guy like 6-9 with that type of point forward IQ, handle, and passing ability that guys like Doncic and Ingles have. He's also stepped up professionally as a shooter. He would be a nice glue piece to keep the ball humming and realistically with your guys shooters it could develop into a Mavs like offense.

Most of us Warriors fans want Wiseman, we are really weak in the shot blocking and rebounding department. We think the vets can get him easy dunks so it buys him time to develop offensively.

[Jedzz]

I would have thought Wolves fans would be on board with Edwards. We have considered Edwards because he's got that insanely elite athletic ability (42 inch vert) with the handles and bucket hunting mentality that Mitchell and Oladipo have. But I could see not wanting to end up in the Wiggins situation of an elite athlete that's just missing something.

I think Avdija might be your guy, maybe not the best long term guy but he's a good fit. He's like a lesser man's Luka Doncic. Tall guy like 6-9 with that type of point forward IQ, handle, and passing ability that guys like Doncic and Ingles have. He's also stepped up professionally as a shooter. He would be a nice glue piece to keep the ball humming and realistically with your guys shooters it could develop into a Mavs like offense.

Most of us Warriors fans want Wiseman, we are really weak in the shot blocking and rebounding department. We think the vets can get him easy dunks so it buys him time to develop offensively.

I think Avdija name is swimming in too many imaginations right now. This team has had a few point forward minded players, even international players, but this team really doesn't allow those players that role. Outside of 3pt shots they are minimized and used for defense.

Hard to say what's best. Warriors could stand pat, draft Wiserman and sign Gasol, let Wiserman play off bench until Gasol retires. Let Wiggins fill your F spot and see if he comes around this next season to be a fit there. If not, trade him to Toronto for one of their expirings.

[old school 34]

I would have thought Wolves fans would be on board with Edwards. We have considered Edwards because he's got that insanely elite athletic ability (42 inch vert) with the handles and bucket hunting mentality that Mitchell and Oladipo have. But I could see not wanting to end up in the Wiggins situation of an elite athlete that's just missing something.

I think Avdija might be your guy, maybe not the best long term guy but he's a good fit. He's like a lesser man's Luka Doncic. Tall guy like 6-9 with that type of point forward IQ, handle, and passing ability that guys like Doncic and Ingles have. He's also stepped up professionally as a shooter. He would be a nice glue piece to keep the ball humming and realistically with your guys shooters it could develop into a Mavs like offense.

Most of us Warriors fans want Wiseman, we are really weak in the shot blocking and rebounding department. We think the vets can get him easy dunks so it buys him time to develop offensively.

I think Avdija name is swimming in too many imaginations right now. This team has had a few point forward minded players, even international players, but this team really doesn't allow those players that role. Outside of 3pt shots they are minimized and used for defense.

Hard to say what's best. Warriors could stand pat, draft Wiserman and sign Gasol, let Wiserman play off bench until Gasol retires. Let Wiggins fill your F spot and see if he comes around this next season to be a fit there. If not, trade him to Toronto for one of their expirings.

Yeah....I feel Deni is a classic case of picking for fit over BPA and in our case where we aren't a playoff team...that would become a mistake. Not saying that he doesn't have his fans here....there's definitely some...I just think the ceiling is significantly lower & puts him at a lower tier...thus he shouldn't be considered @ 1....you either trade down gaining an acceptable asset or you pull the best fit/player out of that top tier.

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[jpatrick]

I think people are underrating Ball. He was inefficient last year but also had just turned 18 and playing against adults. In the games I saw, he was generally the best player on his team and the only one capable of creating.

His shooting improved throughout the season and he is a willing shooter, unlike someone like Rubio, although his form is not pretty. When that body fills out, he’s going to be a triple double machine. The other thing to note, Lonzo improved considerably in shooting and defense when he got to the league, which are currently seen as Lamelo’s two biggest weaknesses.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

I think people are underrating Ball. He was inefficient last year but also had just turned 18 and playing against adults. In the games I saw, he was generally the best player on his team and the only one capable of creating.

His shooting improved throughout the season and he is a willing shooter, unlike someone like Rubio, although his form is not pretty. When that body fills out, he’s going to be a triple double machine. The other thing to note, Lonzo improved considerably in shooting and defense when he got to the league, which are currently seen as Lamelo’s two biggest weaknesses.

So then what with DLO? 2 Pgs as your guards doesn’t work

[CptCrunch]

Edwards has some amazing moves. His moves look absolutely like a million bucks. Absolutely amazing looking pull ups, step backs, screen shooting, power dunker, even LeBron's crab drives.

But but the end of the day, the dude is put up 19/5.2/2.8 on 40.2/29.4/77.2% split (52% TS) in a fairly weak power 5 conference.

I'm concerned about his efficiency in the league. His shot selection is pretty putrid even more so if he can't hit them. Not playing hard, checking out of college mentally, and questionable defense isn't that great of a combo for that #1 NBA league guard position.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Edwards has some amazing moves. His moves look absolutely like a million bucks. Absolutely amazing looking pull ups, step backs, screen shooting, power dunker, even LeBron's crab drives.

But but the end of the day, the dude is put up 19/5.2/2.8 on 40.2/29.4/77.2% split (52% TS) in a fairly weak power 5 conference.

I'm concerned about his efficiency in the league. His shot selection is pretty putrid even more so if he can't hit them.

So is it coaching? Lack of good team matesand was asked to do too much? Offensive structure?


I mean if he looks good in workouts with other NBA caliber players, filling out the 2 guard spot with DLO running the point wouldn’t be bad, and we save money by not signing Beasley to something absurd just to have him make 3s. Edwards and Wiseman were the highly touted prospects coming into college last yr.

DLO/Edwards/Culver/Johnson/Kat

DLO/Beasley/Culver/Kat/Wiseman

Ball/DLO/Culver/Johnson/Kat

I mean holy..Wiseman is true 7’0 and runs like a gazelle. 7’4 wingspan. Having 2 7 footers and one with serious range would be awesome.


Good luck playing small ball when your tallest defender is 6’8 and the we have 2 7 footers, one who stretches the court

[volk_bart]

tankathon is a german dude with no sources

Really? Never heard that before.

[shangrila]

I would have thought Wolves fans would be on board with Edwards. We have considered Edwards because he's got that insanely elite athletic ability (42 inch vert) with the handles and bucket hunting mentality that Mitchell and Oladipo have. But I could see not wanting to end up in the Wiggins situation of an elite athlete that's just missing something.

I think Avdija might be your guy, maybe not the best long term guy but he's a good fit. He's like a lesser man's Luka Doncic. Tall guy like 6-9 with that type of point forward IQ, handle, and passing ability that guys like Doncic and Ingles have. He's also stepped up professionally as a shooter. He would be a nice glue piece to keep the ball humming and realistically with your guys shooters it could develop into a Mavs like offense.

Most of us Warriors fans want Wiseman, we are really weak in the shot blocking and rebounding department. We think the vets can get him easy dunks so it buys him time to develop offensively.

Yeah, give it a few years with Wiggins (if you guys even keep him that long). You'll understand the scars we'll forever have when it comes to low motor athletes.

I also like Deni, no real issues taking him with our pick. The main thing that's annoying me is I don't see a huge difference in talent between the 1st and even the 10th pick, so we're just going to be paying our guy more money. And given our cap situation? Not ideal.

I do like Wiseman for you guys. I think he's an interesting fit long term too, as if you end up going star hunting he can pretty easily slot in next to them (not many star bigs). But I honestly believe GS will just go BPA. I think your FO wants to be the Spurs and part of that means having a transition from one "era" to the next, so finding an heir to Steph is just as important to them as is plugging any holes in their current lineup.

[shangrila]

Edwards has some amazing moves. His moves look absolutely like a million bucks. Absolutely amazing looking pull ups, step backs, screen shooting, power dunker, even LeBron's crab drives.

But but the end of the day, the dude is put up 19/5.2/2.8 on 40.2/29.4/77.2% split (52% TS) in a fairly weak power 5 conference.

I'm concerned about his efficiency in the league. His shot selection is pretty putrid even more so if he can't hit them.

So is it coaching? Lack of good team matesand was asked to do too much? Offensive structure?

Coaching could help but his BBIQ is just low. It's Wiggins-esque. He's a little more advanced skill wise than Andrew was at the same age but otherwise the instincts are near identical.

I mean if he looks good in workouts with other NBA caliber players, filling out the 2 guard spot with DLO running the point wouldn’t be bad, and we save money by not signing Beasley to something absurd just to have him make 3s. Edwards and Wiseman were the highly touted prospects coming into college last yr.

There won't be group workouts. Even if there wasn't a global pandemic, none of the top guys ever do work against others. Too much for them to lose.

[shangrila]

Edwards has some amazing moves. His moves look absolutely like a million bucks. Absolutely amazing looking pull ups, step backs, screen shooting, power dunker, even LeBron's crab drives.

But but the end of the day, the dude is put up 19/5.2/2.8 on 40.2/29.4/77.2% split (52% TS) in a fairly weak power 5 conference.

I'm concerned about his efficiency in the league. His shot selection is pretty putrid even more so if he can't hit them. Not playing hard, checking out of college mentally, and questionable defense isn't that great of a combo for that #1 NBA league guard position.

The shot selection doesn't worry me, funnily enough. They already fixed it with Wiggins so there's no reason to think they can't do it for Edwards, plus getting that addressed earlier in his development would be best.

My issues is with effort and IQ. On both ends he just doesn't seem to have great instincts and that's harder to teach. Then you've got the motor and seemingly his mentality; watching him prance around after a 3 when his team is down 20 kind of makes me wonder if he gives a **** at all.

I don't hate him, contrary to what some might think having read my posts, but the guy is a serious, 2-3 year project. Can we afford to wait for him? Especially with him likely being a net negative early on.

[shangrila]

I think people are underrating Ball. He was inefficient last year but also had just turned 18 and playing against adults. In the games I saw, he was generally the best player on his team and the only one capable of creating.

I don't buy this. The Illawarra Hawks weren't great, don't get me wrong, but his inefficiency came far more from his moronic shot selection and difficulties finishing.

Nor does that address his other issues, namely that he doesn't seem to understand how to operate in a team environment. His off ball defence is bad and his off ball offence isn't much better. Even if you ignore the shooting troubles, there were far too many times where he'd cut into the key and then just...stand there, in the dunker's spot, essentially giving the opposing team a free extra defender in the key and killing any drives his own team made.

His shooting improved throughout the season and he is a willing shooter, unlike someone like Rubio, although his form is not pretty.

Did it improve? I think his shot selection improved a little, his shot itself still seemed wack. And there really is so much work that needs to be done there. It's not just the obvious mechanics but even just how he loads up varies wildly from shot to shot. He's a literal masterclass in how to be a bad shooter.

When that body fills out, he’s going to be a triple double machine. The other thing to note, Lonzo improved considerably in shooting and defense when he got to the league, which are currently seen as Lamelo’s two biggest weaknesses.

While I do agree with the first part, I hate the Lonzo comps. Lonzo was already a good defender coming into the league. There were some questions about how he would translate especially with quicker guards but he had good fundamentals and instincts on that end. That isn't the case with LaMelo and why I think he's far more boom/bust than his brother ever was. Lonzo was always a high level glue guy, LaMelo is more the offensive star. There's a much lower chance for LaMelo, if he doesn't reach his potential, to slot into a productive role player on a good team than Lonzo.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Gross. I want to like Edwards but the advanced stats and Strengths/weaknesses on his tankathon page is all red. He had 3 strengths. 4 + for his age, 2 + for points and 1 + for defensive rebounds

Edwards has far too many 5-15 for 18 points6-17 for 16 point games. The last 3 games he was 11/45 including 3-25 from deep.

Wiseman is all green besides assist crap.

He also has 4 +s for basically every important stat. Him, towns and DLO would be devastating for the next 10 years

[Neeva]

If the Wolves keep the pick it’s gotta be Ant Edwards. I think he will have a roy type first season and at worst be borderline all star in the west at the peak of his career and an all star in the east if he somehow falls to Charlotte.

[Neeva]

Booker averaged like 10 points and 1 assist a game at Kentucky. I think Edwards will be a better player im the league , georgia was completely the wrong team (and coach) for Him.

Gross. I want to like Edwards but the advanced stats and Strengths/weaknesses on his tankathon page is all red. He had 3 strengths. 4 + for his age, 2 + for points and 1 + for defensive rebounds

Edwards has far too many 5-15 for 18 points6-17 for 16 point games. The last 3 games he was 11/45 including 3-25 from deep.

Wiseman is all green besides assist crap.

He also has 4 +s for basically every important stat. Him, towns and DLO would be devastating for the next 10 years

[KGdaBom]

tankathon is a german dude with no sources, CBS is also just speculating, trying to drive traffic, if you think that dude has any sources... lmao, most trust worthy reports showed that the Warriors (at least the front office, owner could always impose guys and change things) don't care much for him

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

[KGdaBom]

I think people are underrating Ball. He was inefficient last year but also had just turned 18 and playing against adults. In the games I saw, he was generally the best player on his team and the only one capable of creating.

His shooting improved throughout the season and he is a willing shooter, unlike someone like Rubio, although his form is not pretty. When that body fills out, he’s going to be a triple double machine. The other thing to note, Lonzo improved considerably in shooting and defense when he got to the league, which are currently seen as Lamelo’s two biggest weaknesses.

I'm not a fan of making excuses for draft picks, but in Ball's case the shooting % might be excusable. 18 year old kid going literally to the other end of the earth to play basketball against men could be kind of tough. Of course entering the NBA could be kind of tough also.