Butler has requested a trade, the saga continues

[TruthSerum]

Thibs has done a great job drafting and will continue to due so.

I would have to disagree about Thibs being good at drafting. So far he's picked a guy who was widely considered a bust at #5 and a guy who has been injured the majority of his time with the Wolves at #15. Okogie looks like a very good pick, but I wouldn't call succeeding with 1 out of 3 1st round picks a very good track record.

But Dunn is clearly not a bust (just suffered a rough rookie year) and Thibs had no way to predict Patton (who looked promising in the d league) would suffer not one, but two broken feet.

[wesleyt95]

Thibs has done a great job drafting and will continue to due so.

I would have to disagree about Thibs being good at drafting. So far he's picked a guy who was widely considered a bust at #5 and a guy who has been injured the majority of his time with the Wolves at #15. Okogie looks like a very good pick, but I wouldn't call succeeding with 1 out of 3 1st round picks a very good track record.

But Dunn is clearly not a bust (just suffered a rough rookie year) and Thibs had no way to predict Patton (who balled in the d league) would suffer not one, but two broken feet.

Dunn and Patton still have more potential than Rubio, Shabazz, Dieng lol

[Dalvin]

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Good. I don't know why the hell they were playing him in the first place. He's got a couple of great performances under his belt; his trade value is as high as it's going to get and the drama is clearly affecting the team. Let him sit, stay away from practice and not risk injury.

While we're at it, Thibs can sit too until he's finalized the Butler trade.

He's sitting the Jazz game 'cause he's afraid of Minnesota's 2nd favorite son (Rubio) coming into town
Geez, one year ago he was saying not to let Rubio into his locker room after a game. Now he's sitting games, just to be traded asap? What a punk. Where's the loyalty in that? He really should be fined/sanctioned for not honoring his contract.

[wolves_89]

Thibs has done a great job drafting and will continue to due so.

I would have to disagree about Thibs being good at drafting. So far he's picked a guy who was widely considered a bust at #5 and a guy who has been injured the majority of his time with the Wolves at #15. Okogie looks like a very good pick, but I wouldn't call succeeding with 1 out of 3 1st round picks a very good track record.

But Dunn is clearly not a bust (just suffered a rough rookie year) and Thibs had no way to predict Patton (who looked promising in the d league) would suffer not one, but two broken feet.

Even though he's been somewhat better in Chicago, I would still consider Dunn a bust for his draft position. I tend to rate drafting ability based on results, which in Thibs case aren't particularly good.

[AirP.]

Wolves need to report Butler to the league for refusing to honor his contract. Stop paying him and start fining him until he honors his contract. If he sits for 30 days he loses his right to Free Agency next year. Play 100% hardball with him. His refusing to honor his contract shows all potential trade partners that he is a POS who won't honor his contract when he doesn't get his way. Offers will diminish to nothing but bad contracts coming back our way. What a POS he has turned out to be.

I'm guessing he's now taking games off if he feels any kind of pain/fatigue to make sure he doesn't get hurt(since he'll go all out when on the court) which would keep teams from offering "enough" for him to be traded. I still believe Thibs wants to keep Butler in Minnesota and make him turn down the extra money to go somewhere else.

It's real simple for Thibs, he knows this franchise will never have a guy near as good as Butler next to Towns during his time in Minnesota and he is willing to be drug through dirt to keep him here. Not retaining Butler will only hurt the franchise.

[KGdaBom]

Not me
Would rather have the Miami deal.

What Miami Deal. There is no Miami Deal. As for this proposed Philly deal Fultz sucks. Put RoCo in there instead of Fultz and I'm all over it.

Well there was a rumored deal with Miami. What deal with Philly? There is no deal with Philly, just rumors right?
Saric sucks, and RoCo is a role player.

Rumored deal at one time was Richardson and Waiters and a protected FRP which isn't an FRP at all. However, that was then and the negative value of Waiters negates the positive value of Richardson. There is no Miami Deal. There probably is no 76ers deal either I was just talking about the proposed deal. RoCo is a first team all NBA defender. You want to call that a role player. Saric is off to a slow start, but he was superb last year and should be better soon.

[AirP.]

Even though he's been somewhat better in Chicago, I would still consider Dunn a bust for his draft position. I tend to rate drafting ability based on results, which in Thibs case aren't particularly good.

I think Dunn was drafted specifically to be traded to Chicago for Butler (Thibs knew how much that FO wanted him by being with them so many years scouting these players) and it was also rumored that Chicago desperately wanted Dunn during the draft. On Patton, had he had a history of injuries and Thibs drafted him still I'd hang that on him but he really didn't have anything that pointed towards being injury prone.

[TruthSerum]

I would have to disagree about Thibs being good at drafting. So far he's picked a guy who was widely considered a bust at #5 and a guy who has been injured the majority of his time with the Wolves at #15. Okogie looks like a very good pick, but I wouldn't call succeeding with 1 out of 3 1st round picks a very good track record.

But Dunn is clearly not a bust (just suffered a rough rookie year) and Thibs had no way to predict Patton (who looked promising in the d league) would suffer not one, but two broken feet.

Even though he's been somewhat better in Chicago, I would still consider Dunn a bust for his draft position. I tend to rate drafting ability based on results, which in Thibs case aren't particularly good.

It was a very weak draft class outside of top few.

[Killboard]

There goes the leverage.

Tom: The leverage is your bird rights, Jimmy.

Welcome cap space and embrace a tanking season with an interim coach.

[Klomp]

I'll be curious to see who starts next to Okogie if Wiggins also misses the game. Would think it'd have to be CJ Williams. Maybe it would be Bates-Diop though?

[Killboard]

Thibs has done a great job drafting and will continue to due so.

I would have to disagree about Thibs being good at drafting. So far he's picked a guy who was widely considered a bust at #5 and a guy who has been injured the majority of his time with the Wolves at #15. Okogie looks like a very good pick, but I wouldn't call succeeding with 1 out of 3 1st round picks a very good track record.

But Dunn is clearly not a bust (just suffered a rough rookie year) and Thibs had no way to predict Patton (who looked promising in the d league) would suffer not one, but two broken feet.

He neither could predict OG Anunoby playing the 3/4 as a 3&D ready NBA player. People thought he was top10 before his college injury which happened to be a non chronic type and clearly a need.

[AirP.]

I'll be curious to see who starts next to Okogie if Wiggins also misses the game. Would think it'd have to be CJ Williams. Maybe it would be Bates-Diop though?

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[TruthSerum]

I'll be curious to see who starts next to Okogie if Wiggins also misses the game. Would think it'd have to be CJ Williams. Maybe it would be Bates-Diop though?

CJ was baaaddd in the Dallas game. KBD and Nunnally should be fine. It's too bad Deng is a 4 now.

[Dewey]

I'll be curious to see who starts next to Okogie if Wiggins also misses the game. Would think it'd have to be CJ Williams. Maybe it would be Bates-Diop though?

KBD ... I see no logical reason we cannot get KBD a few minutes a game. If he proves inept in his 5 minutes, then sure. Gibson is no spring chicken and Dieng has not impressed anyone, so why not give a player like KBD a sniff to keep him motivated? Stupid.

[K4P]

I'll be curious to see who starts next to Okogie if Wiggins also misses the game. Would think it'd have to be CJ Williams. Maybe it would be Bates-Diop though?

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lol Time for Rose to play 42 minutes off the bench.

[KGdaBom]

Since Jimmy leaked that he is refusing to play I firmly believe it would be in the NBA's best interest to step in and suspend him to show that the league will not put up with this kind of ****. This is extremely damaging to the integrity of the league itself not just the Wolves. If the Wolves don't have the balls Silver needs to step up.

[wolves_89]

With Butler out and Rose playing minutes at PG it will be interesting to see how we fill out the wing rotation. Okogie will get big minutes, but beyond that Wiggins is coming of injury (and might not even play) and CJ/Nunnally/KBD haven't really seen minutes outside of garbage time. I really hope Thibs doesn't try to play Deng at SF.

[Norseman79]

Yea he 'could'. We could also see Giannis put up a triple double again too and get blown out by 20 lol

you asked if he can guard them, yes he can. About as well as anyone else in the league can guard them. In some ways, maybe better. I mean, if you are actually asking if he can guard Giannis, can Durant guard Giannis?

Yeah it's at least not a complete mismatch. KD isn't the only one... Brandon Ingram, Jonathan Isaac, Ben Simmons, LeBron, Robert Covington etc. KAT is a 5

Agree to disagree. Kat may be a small ball 5, but his game is definitely stretch 4. You identified a bunch of small forwards to guard Giannis...are you saying Giannis is a 3 or a 4? Again, if you are talking about quickness, then yeah, those guys are much quicker than Kat...how would they handle getting posted up by Giannis?

[PharmD]

Will be at the game to boo the **** out of Thibs and cheer for Ricky.

[wesleyt95]

you asked if he can guard them, yes he can. About as well as anyone else in the league can guard them. In some ways, maybe better. I mean, if you are actually asking if he can guard Giannis, can Durant guard Giannis?

Yeah it's at least not a complete mismatch. KD isn't the only one... Brandon Ingram, Jonathan Isaac, Ben Simmons, LeBron, Robert Covington etc. KAT is a 5

Agree to disagree. Kat may be a small ball 5, but his game is definitely stretch 4. You identified a bunch of small forwards to guard Giannis...are you saying Giannis is a 3 or a 4? Again, if you are talking about quickness, then yeah, those guys are much quicker than Kat...how would they handle getting posted up by Giannis?

Giannis is starting at the 4, half the league is starting 3's at the 4 that's where the league is headed.