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May be more wishful thinking, but I like that we have back to backs with both Det & Sac just before the deadline (done playing them for the year can easily just make a deal on the way out with either one...lol).
Couple of small around the margins deals if everything else kind of fizzles...
Sure I'd like Grant from Det (if we're on his extension list--meaning he's okay being lower on the offensive pecking order)...which I'm probably pretty willing to pay the ransom. Otherwise, could I flip a Beasley for Olynyk?
And of course, I'd have some interest in a Barnes or Holmes from Sac....
But if all else fails, what about...
Layman for Muscala
And say...
Naz for Kenny Hustle (rfa for rfa & we probably need to throw in a couple of our 2nds)
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Couple of small around the margins deals if everything else kind of fizzles...
Sure I'd like Grant from Det (if we're on his extension list--meaning he's okay being lower on the offensive pecking order)...which I'm probably pretty willing to pay the ransom. Otherwise, could I flip a Beasley for Olynyk?
And of course, I'd have some interest in a Barnes or Holmes from Sac....
But if all else fails, what about...
Layman for Muscala
And say...
Naz for Kenny Hustle (rfa for rfa & we probably need to throw in a couple of our 2nds)
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IceManBK1 wrote:Hou, Min, and Philly 3 way...might need more players to make salaries work
Hou Out: John Wall & Eric Gordon
Hou In: Maxey, Beasley, McDaniels, Prince, and 1st(Min)
Philly Out: Simmons & Maxey & Danny Green
Philly In: John Wall & Eric Gordon 2 1sts(Min)
Min Out: Beasley, McDaniels, Prince and 3 1sts
Philly In: Simmons and Danny Green
Timbers lineup:
Beverly
Dlo
Edwards
Simmons
Towns
How in the world does John Wall return that, and why in the world would Philadelphia accept such a trash heap offer?
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Domejandro wrote:IceManBK1 wrote:Hou, Min, and Philly 3 way...might need more players to make salaries work
Hou Out: John Wall & Eric Gordon
Hou In: Maxey, Beasley, McDaniels, Prince, and 1st(Min)
Philly Out: Simmons & Maxey & Danny Green
Philly In: John Wall & Eric Gordon 2 1sts(Min)
Min Out: Beasley, McDaniels, Prince and 3 1sts
Philly In: Simmons and Danny Green
Timbers lineup:
Beverly
Dlo
Edwards
Simmons
Towns
How in the world does John Wall return that, and why in the world would Philadelphia accept such a trash heap offer?
IceManBK1 uses trade machine without reality check.
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Domejandro wrote:IceManBK1 wrote:Hou, Min, and Philly 3 way...might need more players to make salaries work
Hou Out: John Wall & Eric Gordon
Hou In: Maxey, Beasley, McDaniels, Prince, and 1st(Min)
Philly Out: Simmons & Maxey & Danny Green
Philly In: John Wall & Eric Gordon 2 1sts(Min)
Min Out: Beasley, McDaniels, Prince and 3 1sts
Philly In: Simmons and Danny Green
Timbers lineup:
Beverly
Dlo
Edwards
Simmons
Towns
How in the world does John Wall return that, and why in the world would Philadelphia accept such a trash heap offer?
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Sure I'd like Grant from Det (if we're on his extension list--meaning he's okay being lower on the offensive pecking order)...which I'm probably pretty willing to pay the ransom.
If you want Grant wait til after he signs his extension with his new team , they will pretty quickly be looking to pay someone to take it off their hands
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andyhop wrote:old school 34 wrote:
Sure I'd like Grant from Det (if we're on his extension list--meaning he's okay being lower on the offensive pecking order)...which I'm probably pretty willing to pay the ransom.
If you want Grant wait til after he signs his extension with his new team , they will pretty quickly be looking to pay someone to take it off their hands
Remind me who you are interested in (not being rude or facetious, I honestly don’t remember, and the thread is kinda long.)
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andyhop wrote:old school 34 wrote:
Sure I'd like Grant from Det (if we're on his extension list--meaning he's okay being lower on the offensive pecking order)...which I'm probably pretty willing to pay the ransom.
If you want Grant wait til after he signs his extension with his new team , they will pretty quickly be looking to pay someone to take it off their hands
I've heard about 100 mil for 4 years. If we make playoff, I'd give him Aaron Gordon type of deal, with last year team option - 92 mil for 4 years.
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Is the Ben Simmons trade to the Wolves officially done?
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I just don’t see Simmons getting moved here for numerous reasons.
I’m looking at Barnes or Grant. Each can play competent defense at each forward position and can shoot it well enough to be playable with Vando.
I may actually prefer Barnes. He’s on a declining contract. He really shoots it from three well. Plays smart. And unlike Grant, would probably be happy as a role player. I just don’t see the kings moving him unless it’s part of a big deal.
Wouldn’t mind an Eric Gordon for Beasley swap, but would we include a first to make that happen. Maybe?
I’m looking at Barnes or Grant. Each can play competent defense at each forward position and can shoot it well enough to be playable with Vando.
I may actually prefer Barnes. He’s on a declining contract. He really shoots it from three well. Plays smart. And unlike Grant, would probably be happy as a role player. I just don’t see the kings moving him unless it’s part of a big deal.
Wouldn’t mind an Eric Gordon for Beasley swap, but would we include a first to make that happen. Maybe?
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jpatrick wrote:I just don’t see Simmons getting moved here for numerous reasons.
I’m looking at Barnes or Grant. Each can play competent defense at each forward position and can shoot it well enough to be playable with Vando.
I may actually prefer Barnes. He’s on a declining contract. He really shoots it from three well. Plays smart. And unlike Grant, would probably be happy as a role player. I just don’t see the kings moving him unless it’s part of a big deal.
Wouldn’t mind an Eric Gordon for Beasley swap, but would we include a first to make that happen. Maybe?
Didn't Eric Gordon grow up riding a pet dinosaur? No thanks on giving up a first for him.
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I'd give up a 1st for him on the condition that Beasley is the guy that's going out & whatever filler.KGdaBom wrote:jpatrick wrote:I just don’t see Simmons getting moved here for numerous reasons.
I’m looking at Barnes or Grant. Each can play competent defense at each forward position and can shoot it well enough to be playable with Vando.
I may actually prefer Barnes. He’s on a declining contract. He really shoots it from three well. Plays smart. And unlike Grant, would probably be happy as a role player. I just don’t see the kings moving him unless it’s part of a big deal.
Wouldn’t mind an Eric Gordon for Beasley swap, but would we include a first to make that happen. Maybe?
Didn't Eric Gordon grow up riding a pet dinosaur? No thanks on giving up a first for him.
I can understand not wanting to give up a first, but feel with the market going into trade deadline & our current tradable player assets...if we want a significant bench rotation upgrade...it's going to require a 1st....want a starter it's going to require 2 1st's....maybe it comes down at the last minute (it generally does), but I'm not so sure anymore with so many more teams playing for a play in spot.
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old school 34 wrote:I'd give up a 1st for him on the condition that Beasley is the guy that's going out & whatever filler.KGdaBom wrote:jpatrick wrote:I just don’t see Simmons getting moved here for numerous reasons.
I’m looking at Barnes or Grant. Each can play competent defense at each forward position and can shoot it well enough to be playable with Vando.
I may actually prefer Barnes. He’s on a declining contract. He really shoots it from three well. Plays smart. And unlike Grant, would probably be happy as a role player. I just don’t see the kings moving him unless it’s part of a big deal.
Wouldn’t mind an Eric Gordon for Beasley swap, but would we include a first to make that happen. Maybe?
Didn't Eric Gordon grow up riding a pet dinosaur? No thanks on giving up a first for him.
I can understand not wanting to give up a first, but feel with the market going into trade deadline & our current tradable player assets...if we want a significant bench rotation upgrade...it's going to require a 1st....want a starter it's going to require 2 1st's....maybe it comes down at the last minute (it generally does), but I'm not so sure anymore with so many more teams playing for a play in spot.
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Why are you convinced Gordon is a good enough upgrade that it is worth taking on the extra salary, much less giving up a pick? His defensive rating is 120 this year, and despite his high 3 point shooting percentage his volume is low. In fact it is consistently low across his career. Hitting 2 out of 5 or 3 out of 8 isn’t that much better than what Beasley gives you. His assist and rebounding numbers aren’t better than Beasley and Gordon being 31-33 over the length of his contract means he is more prone to injury. Help me out here.
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Okogie, Layman & SRP for Ibaka? It's more of a "win now" move but they certainly could re-sign Ibaka after the season. That would be a very impressive big man rotation in KAT, Ibaka, Vandy and Reid.
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A small move that could have a real impact on the rest of the season would be moving Layman+2nd for Dieng. Gorgui could go a long way towards filling size gap the team struggles with against certain opponents.
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old school 34 wrote:The thing I worry about with Bagley...Does he resign as a rfa, if he knows he's continuing to come off bench here?
He'd be an RFA so it doesn't really matter. We can match anything if we want. I don't really see him getting a significant deal out on the open market. Bigger question is if we give the qualifying offer (I think we do, but worth asking).
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wolves_89 wrote:A small move that could have a real impact on the rest of the season would be moving Layman+2nd for Dieng. Gorgui could go a long way towards filling size gap the team struggles with against certain opponents.
Seems reasonable, and considering the difficulty of making the trades for guys like Grant or Barnes probably makes even more sense even if he is limited in fit.
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Klomp wrote:old school 34 wrote:The thing I worry about with Bagley...Does he resign as a rfa, if he knows he's continuing to come off bench here?
He'd be an RFA so it doesn't really matter. We can match anything if we want. I don't really see him getting a significant deal out on the open market. Bigger question is if we give the qualifying offer (I think we do, but worth asking).
Idk this is a guy I’d be concerned wouldn’t be happy in his role unless he overtook Naz. I wouldn’t mind him as a big candidate tho.
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Sounds like Dinwiddie is on his way out of Washington, look like someon you could buy very low on
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Mattya wrote:Sounds like Dinwiddie is on his way out of Washington, look like someon you could buy very low on
It seems that all of his teammates actually hate the guy and that's why WAS is looking to move him.
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Mattya wrote:Sounds like Dinwiddie is on his way out of Washington, look like someon you could buy very low on
Seems like a guy the Wolves should really avoid. He isn't a good shooter, isn't a great defender, sounds like a poor locker room guy, and is making a fair amount of money for multiple years.
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