Trade Talk (Part Four)

Slim Tubby · Post #1581 » by **Slim Tubby** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:15 am

Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
_AIJ_ wrote:Wtf at these Kat trades. Please stop

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They've been KAT and Russell at 50 cents on the dollar.

This KAT trade talk really is ridiculous when you think about it. Even if Towns wanted out the team doesn't have to trade him.

I’d be absolutely stunned if we moved KAT. It’s just fun to speculate and formulate potential scenarios and returns.

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D1SGRUNTL3D · Post #1582 » by **D1SGRUNTL3D** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:17 am

Wolveswin wrote:Bulls Get: Towns + Russell + Evans + Smailagic
Bulls Give: #4 + White + T. Young + Carter Jr. + Porter Jr. + 2022 1st (unprotected) + 2024 1st (limited protections) + 2021 and 2023 1st (swap rights)
Bulls become Wolves of the East...no defense all offense.
Towns
Markkanen
Satoransky | Hutchinson | MLE
LaVine
Russell

Warriors Get: Porter Jr. + Carter Jr. + T. Young + #17
Warriors Give: #2 + Wiggins + Looney + Smailagic + 2021 Wolves 1st

Wolves Get: #2 + #4 + White + Wiggins + Looney + 2021 Own 1st (returned) + 2022 Bulls 1st (unprotected) + 2024 Bulls 1st (limited protections) + 2021 and 2023 Bulls 1st (swap rights)
Wolves Give: Towns + Russell + Evans

Wiggins leads the tank...

Wiseman (#2) | Reid | Looney
Avdija or Okongwu (#4) | Spellman | Vanderbilt | Johnson (trade or buyout)
Culver | Wiggins | Layman
Edwards (#1) | Beasley | Okogie | Nowell
White | McJordan

At trade deadline, trade Beasley for best future draft consideration possible.

We did all of that work to get rid of Wiggins and now you want him back less than a year later?

Wolveswin · Post #1583 » by **Wolveswin** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:20 am

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Bulls Get: Towns + Russell + Evans + Smailagic
Bulls Give: #4 + White + T. Young + Carter Jr. + Porter Jr. + 2022 1st (unprotected) + 2024 1st (limited protections) + 2021 and 2023 1st (swap rights)
Bulls become Wolves of the East...no defense all offense.
Towns
Markkanen
Satoransky | Hutchinson | MLE
LaVine
Russell

Warriors Get: Porter Jr. + Carter Jr. + T. Young + #17
Warriors Give: #2 + Wiggins + Looney + Smailagic + 2021 Wolves 1st

Wolves Get: #2 + #4 + White + Wiggins + Looney + 2021 Own 1st (returned) + 2022 Bulls 1st (unprotected) + 2024 Bulls 1st (limited protections) + 2021 and 2023 Bulls 1st (swap rights)
Wolves Give: Towns + Russell + Evans

Wiggins leads the tank...

Wiseman (#2) | Reid | Looney
Avdija or Okongwu (#4) | Spellman | Vanderbilt | Johnson (trade or buyout)
Culver | Wiggins | Layman
Edwards (#1) | Beasley | Okogie | Nowell
White | McJordan

At trade deadline, trade Beasley for best future draft consideration possible.

We did all of that work to get rid of Wiggins and now you want him back less than a year later?

Want is the wrong word. Get paid incentive to take him back — yes. If Wolves go rebuild, bring on the bad contract(s) for assets. Wiggins is one of the worse of the bunch.

Wolveswin · Post #1584 » by **Wolveswin** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:29 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
Nick K wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:They've been KAT and Russell at 50 cents on the dollar.

This KAT trade talk really is ridiculous when you think about it. Even if Towns wanted out the team doesn't have to trade him.

I’d be absolutely stunned if we moved KAT. It’s just fun to speculate and formulate potential scenarios and returns.

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One of the trades that makes most sense is to Philly for Embiid. Towns (or Towns and Russell) in the East within Mike. D’s system would be sick.

KGdaBom · Post #1585 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:29 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:Don’t hold back, KG...tell me how you really feel.

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Sorry Slim. I'd rather have KAT, Russell and Culver by far to Simmons, Brown and Kanter. Then you are throwing in our #17 and a future unprotected first?????? YIKES.

I’d prefer Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown and James Wiseman (#1) over KAT, Dlo and Culver in a big way but that’s just me personally.

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You're not comparing apples to apples. The #1 pick is an asset we can do whatever we want with. Your deal was us giving KAT, D Lo, Culver #17 and an unprotected first for Simmons, Brown and Kanter. We were not getting Wiseman in the deal you proposed.

SO_MONEY · Post #1586 » by **SO_MONEY** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:33 am

Wolveswin wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
Nick K wrote:
This KAT trade talk really is ridiculous when you think about it. Even if Towns wanted out the team doesn't have to trade him.

I’d be absolutely stunned if we moved KAT. It’s just fun to speculate and formulate potential scenarios and returns.

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One of the trades that makes most sense is to Philly for Embiid. Towns (or Towns and Russell) in the East within Mike. D’s system would be sick.

Slim Tubby · Post #1587 » by **Slim Tubby** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:21 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Sorry Slim. I'd rather have KAT, Russell and Culver by far to Simmons, Brown and Kanter. Then you are throwing in our #17 and a future unprotected first?????? YIKES.

I’d prefer Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown and James Wiseman (#1) over KAT, Dlo and Culver in a big way but that’s just me personally.

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You're not comparing apples to apples. The #1 pick is an asset we can do whatever we want with. Your deal was us giving KAT, D Lo, Culver #17 and an unprotected first for Simmons, Brown and Kanter. We were not getting Wiseman in the deal you proposed.

I struggled adding #17 and the 2023 FRP basically trying to enhance the Philly return since they were shipping out both Embiid and Simmons. I personally value KAT and Brown over Embiid primarily due to past injuries and what they mean moving forward for a big man in this league.

If BOS values Embiid more than Brown, maybe they throw in a couple of their later 2020 FRP’s to balance it out and remove the MIN picks?

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KGdaBom · Post #1588 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:22 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:I’d prefer Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown and James Wiseman (#1) over KAT, Dlo and Culver in a big way but that’s just me personally.

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You're not comparing apples to apples. The #1 pick is an asset we can do whatever we want with. Your deal was us giving KAT, D Lo, Culver #17 and an unprotected first for Simmons, Brown and Kanter. We were not getting Wiseman in the deal you proposed.

I struggled adding #17 and the 2023 FRP basically trying to enhance the Philly return since they were shipping out both Embiid and Simmons. I personally value KAT and Brown over Embiid primarily due to past injuries and what they mean moving forward for a big man in this league.

If BOS values Embiid more than Brown, maybe they throw in a couple of their later 2020 FRP’s to balance it out and remove the MIN picks?

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Still can't add Wiseman to the Wolves as part of the deal. We already have the pick to draft Wiseman or whoever we darn well please.

moonpie · Post #1589 » by **moonpie** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:42 pm

Read on Twitter

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Read on Twitter

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Post #1590 » by **Klomp** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:52 pm

moonpie wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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I saw these. But the source is a Celtics beat reporter. Feels like he's speculating about them rather than actual news. It's why I hate aggregators.

IceManBK1 · Post #1591 » by **IceManBK1** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:10 pm

Klomp wrote:
moonpie wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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I saw these. But the source is a Celtics beat reporter. Feels like he's speculating about them rather than actual news. It's why I hate aggregators.

I'll take turner+oladipo for #1, Culver and JJ

Dlo
Oladipo
Any of(j grant;jae crowder; Joe Harris)
Turner
Towns

IceManBK1 · Post #1592 » by **IceManBK1** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:19 pm

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/09/28/report-76ers-stars-joel-embiid-and-ben-simmons-dont-get-along/amp/

It's happening. One of Simmons/Embiid is gone.

IceManBK1 · Post #1593 » by **IceManBK1** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:37 pm

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/09/28/nba-rumors-lamelo-ball-top-draft-pick-timberwolves&ved=2ahUKEwiTnLj4y4zsAhU0hHIEHfd7AB4Q0PADegQIAxAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lbeZtJKUGcty2L1gGFEqk&ampcf=1

Please God no to ball@#1..rather take Edwards if we keep the pick. Bulls and Hawks a couple teams I'd trade down with. From bulls I want both lavine and markenan plus their#4.. And from Hawks I'll take hunter, capella and #6.

SO_MONEY · Post #1594 » by **SO_MONEY** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:58 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/09/28/nba-rumors-lamelo-ball-top-draft-pick-timberwolves&ved=2ahUKEwiTnLj4y4zsAhU0hHIEHfd7AB4Q0PADegQIAxAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lbeZtJKUGcty2L1gGFEqk&ampcf=1

Please God no to ball@#1..rather take Edwards if we keep the pick. Bulls and Hawks a couple teams I'd trade down with. From bulls I want both lavine and markenan plus their#4.. And from Hawks I'll take hunter, capella and #6.

Capella...no thanks. Hunter...nah. Reddish and Huerter.

KGdaBom · Post #1595 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:03 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2020/09/28/nba-rumors-lamelo-ball-top-draft-pick-timberwolves&ved=2ahUKEwiTnLj4y4zsAhU0hHIEHfd7AB4Q0PADegQIAxAQ&usg=AOvVaw0lbeZtJKUGcty2L1gGFEqk&ampcf=1

Please God no to ball@#1..rather take Edwards if we keep the pick. Bulls and Hawks a couple teams I'd trade down with. From bulls I want both lavine and markenan plus their#4.. And from Hawks I'll take hunter, capella and #6.

If you require that much for #1 you won't be able to make a deal. I'd settle for Nance and #5 from the Cavs.

IceManBK1 · Post #1596 » by **IceManBK1** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:24 pm

Since 76ers are interested in buddy hield maybe we can work out a 3 way with them? Maybe horford+our#17+Culver to Sac, JJ+our#1 to Philly, Simmons+Bogdanovic to us.

Dlo
Beasley
Bogdanovic
Simmons
Towns

Slim Tubby · Post #1597 » by **Slim Tubby** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:38 pm

In everyone’s opinion, who would be the best player or pick we could get for #17, Johnson’s $16M Expiring and Culver? (Let’s leave Gordon out of this since it’s already being discussed in its own thread.)

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KGdaBom · Post #1598 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:03 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:In everyone’s opinion, who would be the best player or pick we could get for #17, Johnson’s $16M Expiring and Culver? (Let’s leave Gordon out of this since it’s already being discussed in its own thread.)

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I don't get why we are including Culver. I'd trade 17 and JJ for Nance.

Post #1599 » by **Klomp** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:04 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:In everyone’s opinion, who would be the best player or pick we could get for #17, Johnson’s $16M Expiring and Culver? (Let’s leave Gordon out of this since it’s already being discussed in its own thread.)

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I don't get why we are including Culver. I'd trade 17 and JJ for Nance.

I'm a big Nance proponent, but nope

coolcono · Post #1600 » by **coolcono** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:07 pm

Thinking about doing a run. Trade for Paul and Gordon.