Butler has requested a trade, the saga continues

[KG_Wolves]

Jimmy is full of **** 100%of the time.

Entertaining as hell..but a complete BSer.


Still want him on the wolves next week tho

Same here, please Thibs hold this ship together, I don't want to go back to the lottery

[AirP.]

Just stop. This has nothing to do with Taylor being unwilling to pay the tax, and everything to do with the rules of the CBA.

If this was about money, Taylor could just tell Butler if everything goes fine he'll be taken care of next off season. Taylor had no problem going through the media for Wiggins, why not do the same thing with Butler? If it's truly about money and Taylor is willing to pay next year, just say you're not being traded and offer him more then anyone else can offer.

Worst case scenario, Butler has a career altering injury and opts in to next year to make 20 million more but it would would hurt Minnesota.

Butler has said he does not want to wait until next season, and I don’t blame him.

He would have to bear that risk of a career-threatening injury this year, that could cost him his $190 mil

Sure but being traded to Miami doesn't change anything towards him renegotiating this summer. I do believe he's been led to believe he's not getting paid what he thought he would by Minnesota next year.

This is why I'm with Thibs on this, don't trade him, get him to play(and he will) and then you have the ability to retain him long term if you're willing to pay him more then anyone else. One thing I keep forgetting is that the cap continues to go up, so even with those huge last years, they might not be as bad as it seems because we're looking at them from the current salary cap.

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It’s amazing watching people gobble up Jimmys PR team like they have been doing since week one.

DId jimmys pr team also kick the crap out of the whole roster in practice today?

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KG used to punch people in the face and make teammates cry. Don't remember anyone calling him cancerous

Of course not.

[KG_Wolves]

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I am here for this

Keep showing up to practice Jimmy, and then the season, and then the playoffs

[shrink]

If this was about money, Taylor could just tell Butler if everything goes fine he'll be taken care of next off season. Taylor had no problem going through the media for Wiggins, why not do the same thing with Butler? If it's truly about money and Taylor is willing to pay next year, just say you're not being traded and offer him more then anyone else can offer.

Worst case scenario, Butler has a career altering injury and opts in to next year to make 20 million more but it would would hurt Minnesota.

Butler has said he does not want to wait until next season, and I don’t blame him.

He would have to bear that risk of a career-threatening injury this year, that could cost him his $190 mil

Sure but being traded to Miami doesn't change anything towards him renegotiating this summer. I do believe he's been led to believe he's not getting paid what he thought he would by Minnesota next year.

Or the simpler answer? He didn’t get his renegotiation, so he wants to make a scene, then take his ball and go home?

No need for any conspiracy theory, if you believe Jimmy is immature.

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KG used to punch people in the face and make teammates cry. Don't remember anyone calling him cancerous

Oh?

Back in the duo’s Minnesota days, Garnett often got so frustrated with Szczerbiak’s lack of defensive effort that Garnett would yell at his teammate on the floor, and it got so bad that Garnett reportedly punched Szczerbiak back in 2000. There were rumors in 2007 when Garnett did not want to be traded to Boston that a potential reunion with Szczerbiak was one of the main reasons. Szczerbiak was traded the night of the draft, the same night the Celtics acquired Ray Allen, thereby opening the door for the Garnett era in Boston.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/31/wally-szczerbiak-bashes-kevin-garnett-says-former-teammate-isnt-clutch/

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Good find. Loving the contradictions of some of you.

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I knew KG punched Rickert, never knew about Wally. lulz

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KG used to punch people in the face and make teammates cry. Don't remember anyone calling him cancerous

Oh?

Back in the duo’s Minnesota days, Garnett often got so frustrated with Szczerbiak’s lack of defensive effort that Garnett would yell at his teammate on the floor, and it got so bad that Garnett reportedly punched Szczerbiak back in 2000. There were rumors in 2007 when Garnett did not want to be traded to Boston that a potential reunion with Szczerbiak was one of the main reasons. Szczerbiak was traded the night of the draft, the same night the Celtics acquired Ray Allen, thereby opening the door for the Garnett era in Boston.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/31/wally-szczerbiak-bashes-kevin-garnett-says-former-teammate-isnt-clutch/

also punched rick rickert in the face. Also made Big Baby cry all the time in Boston

[AirP.]

KG used to punch people in the face and make teammates cry. Don't remember anyone calling him cancerous

Oh?

Back in the duo’s Minnesota days, Garnett often got so frustrated with Szczerbiak’s lack of defensive effort that Garnett would yell at his teammate on the floor, and it got so bad that Garnett reportedly punched Szczerbiak back in 2000. There were rumors in 2007 when Garnett did not want to be traded to Boston that a potential reunion with Szczerbiak was one of the main reasons. Szczerbiak was traded the night of the draft, the same night the Celtics acquired Ray Allen, thereby opening the door for the Garnett era in Boston.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/31/wally-szczerbiak-bashes-kevin-garnett-says-former-teammate-isnt-clutch/

also punched rick rickert in the face. Also made Big Baby cry all the time in Boston

He did lots of stuff...

This was, after all, the superstar who had once dropped to all fours and barked at Portland rookie point guard Jerryd Bayless; whose pregame ritual was a violent head-banging assault of, and concurrent conversation with, the basketball stanchion; who would years later express his umbrage at Dwight Howard's post play by drilling him with an impromptu head-butt in the first quarter of a 2015 regular-season game against Houston.

Garnett, forbidden to take the floor by his own coach, had concocted his revenge: He would track the movements of power forward Leon Powe, the player who had replaced him in the lineup. As Powe pivoted, so did Garnett. As Powe leaped to grab a defensive rebound, Garnett launched himself to corral an imaginary ball. As Powe snapped an outlet pass, Garnett mimicked the motion, then sprinted up his slim sliver of sideline real estate as Powe filled the lane on the break. The players were mirror images: one on the court with a full complement of teammates, the other out of bounds, alone. Two men engaged in a bizarre basketball tango.

"KG," Rivers barked, "if you keep doing this, I'm canceling practice for the whole team. That will hurt us."

Garnett's reverence for coaches was legendary, but still he turned his back on Rivers. He returned to his defensive stance, an isotope of intensity, crouched, palms outstretched, in complete concert with Powe. He was, in fact, becoming so adept at this warped dalliance he'd invented, he actually began to anticipate Powe's movements, denying the entry pass to his invisible opponent before Powe thought of it.

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/14172961/the-cruel-tutelage-kevin-garnett

But KG is right...

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[Norseman79]

Different type of trade proposal.....
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9a6k4bv

Some of you are going to think the Wolves are getting screwed over here, or that the Raptors would never do it...

Min out: Wiggins, Butler
In: Richardson, Anunoby, Valanciunis, T. Johnson, 1rst, 1rst

Miami in: Lowry, Butler, Powell
Miami out: Whiteside, Richardson, Dragic, 1rst

Toronto in: Wiggins, Whiteside, Dragic
out: Lowry, Anunoby, Valanciunas, 1rst

Minnesota gets out of the Butler mess, gets out of the Wiggins deal, and recoups some potential and talent in Richardson and Anunoby, and pairs Towns with a banger in Jonas. Tyler Johnson off the bench as a shooter is nice. The addition of the 2 firsts will help move Gorgui.

Pg - Teague, Rose, Jones
Sg- Richardson, t. Johnson, Okogie
sf - Anunoby, KBD
pf - Towns, Gibson, Tolliver
C - Valanciunas, Dieng, Patton

Toronto - gets out of Lowry, but adds Dragic same contract length, but less. Adds Whiteside who when added to Ilbaka and Leonard is a defensive machine. Wiggins is the hook here. If Leonard leaves next year, Raptors have nothing to excite their fan base, cue Wiggins. Wiggins may actually turn it up playing for his home as well.

Dragic, Van Fleet, Wright
Wiggins/Green (whoever is playing better)
Leonard, Miles
Ilbaka, Siakam
Whiteside, Monroe

In my honest opinion, with Whiteside probably being a much different player on a championship team, Toronto would not only be set to win the East, but possible dethrone the Warriors.

Miami gets not just Butler, but Lowry to go along with D-Wade, and a young wing to replace Richardson/Johnson.

PG - Lowry,
Sg - Butler, Wade
Sf - Winslow, Powell
pf -Johnson, Haslem, Stokes
C - Adebayo, Olynyk

Miami makes the playoffs with that roster, keeps young players, and is attractive in the future for free agents...

[AirP.]

This is something people might find interesting....

Then-GM Kevin McHale: “I’ve seen 100 NBA fights. I’ve been involved in ‘em. It’s not a big deal.”

Coach Flip Saunders: “That’s one of the reasons coaches are very leery of opening practices [to the media]. There are a lot of skirmishes. … You don’t want it. Heaven forbid, if you have a player, especially a star player, who breaks his hand.”

Also... from Rickert

“I was a rookie proving myself and going in there and giving it my all. He was the reigning MVP at the time and I was going in there and not holding back and I was playing well and for whatever reason he didn’t like that. Maybe I hit a jumper on him but he sucker punched me. All I can think of is I was playing better than he expected and he didn’t like that I was playing so well against him. Growing up he was a guy I looked at and thought was a good player, so going into playing against him I wouldn’t back down from a challenge. I guess he didn’t like that.”

http://www.startribune.com/rick-rickert-talks-about-the-time-kevin-garnett-punched-him/320963661/


You're dealing with players competing for spots and overall in the grand scheme of things paychecks, it's going to get heated.

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[Crazy-Canuck]

This is something people might find interesting....

Then-GM Kevin McHale: “I’ve seen 100 NBA fights. I’ve been involved in ‘em. It’s not a big deal.”

Coach Flip Saunders: “That’s one of the reasons coaches are very leery of opening practices [to the media]. There are a lot of skirmishes. … You don’t want it. Heaven forbid, if you have a player, especially a star player, who breaks his hand.”

Also... from Rickert

“I was a rookie proving myself and going in there and giving it my all. He was the reigning MVP at the time and I was going in there and not holding back and I was playing well and for whatever reason he didn’t like that. Maybe I hit a jumper on him but he sucker punched me. All I can think of is I was playing better than he expected and he didn’t like that I was playing so well against him. Growing up he was a guy I looked at and thought was a good player, so going into playing against him I wouldn’t back down from a challenge. I guess he didn’t like that.”

http://www.startribune.com/rick-rickert-talks-about-the-time-kevin-garnett-punched-him/320963661/


You're dealing with players competing for spots and overall in the grand scheme of things paychecks, it's going to get heated.

I don't doubt that there are fights, but there isn't a need to air that dirty laundry for the world through every media outlet.

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Where's Wiggins & KAT? Playing video games?

[KGdaBom]

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Nice to hear, but he already did a lot of damage.

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Where's Wiggins & KAT? Playing video games?

Wiggins - brushing Cassie
Kat - crying to his agent probably

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How is he still allowed at the team facility??