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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#161 » by old school 34 » Sat May 22, 2021 6:44 am

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Klomp wrote:I thought this was noteworthy. To me it signals they have plans for a bigger wing addition (draft or trade), and if so wouldn't bring him over for another year.

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Good find. Doesn’t sound like it’s 100% he’s coming over this summer. Depends on if we can make moves that give him a clear role on the team, so he can continue to develop.

I’ve only seen a few full games of his. But to me, he’s a guy you want more as a secondary initiator as opposed to a pure PG. If the shot continues to progress, I could see a ceiling as a Lonzo Ball or Halliburton type. That’s a really high end role player.
Those are two pretty good comps from what I've seen. So if he's slotting into that 2nd unit rotation....don't think you want him as a 3 (Finch prefers to play bigger than that)....so he doesn't come over next year & work into that rotation with Beasley still on team, correct?

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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#162 » by Slim Tubby » Sat May 22, 2021 1:31 pm

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jpatrick wrote:
Klomp wrote:I thought this was noteworthy. To me it signals they have plans for a bigger wing addition (draft or trade), and if so wouldn't bring him over for another year.

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Good find. Doesn’t sound like it’s 100% he’s coming over this summer. Depends on if we can make moves that give him a clear role on the team, so he can continue to develop.

I’ve only seen a few full games of his. But to me, he’s a guy you want more as a secondary initiator as opposed to a pure PG. If the shot continues to progress, I could see a ceiling as a Lonzo Ball or Halliburton type. That’s a really high end role player.
Those are two pretty good comps from what I've seen. So if he's slotting into that 2nd unit rotation....don't think you want him as a 3 (Finch prefers to play bigger than that)....so he doesn't come over next year & work into that rotation with Beasley still on team, correct?

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With Bolmaro’s versatility and recent growth in his game, I think I’d leave the decision up to the kid.

If he feels like another year in Europe would be better for him personally and professionally, support his choice 100% as an organization. If he’s ready to come over right away, find him a roster spot and get the young man a Wolves jersey.


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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#163 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 23, 2021 4:55 pm

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jpatrick wrote:
Good find. Doesn’t sound like it’s 100% he’s coming over this summer. Depends on if we can make moves that give him a clear role on the team, so he can continue to develop.

I’ve only seen a few full games of his. But to me, he’s a guy you want more as a secondary initiator as opposed to a pure PG. If the shot continues to progress, I could see a ceiling as a Lonzo Ball or Halliburton type. That’s a really high end role player.
Those are two pretty good comps from what I've seen. So if he's slotting into that 2nd unit rotation....don't think you want him as a 3 (Finch prefers to play bigger than that)....so he doesn't come over next year & work into that rotation with Beasley still on team, correct?

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With Bolmaro’s versatility and recent growth in his game, I think I’d leave the decision up to the kid.

If he feels like another year in Europe would be better for him personally and professionally, support his choice 100% as an organization. If he’s ready to come over right away, find him a roster spot and get the young man a Wolves jersey.


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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#164 » by TheZachAttack » Mon May 24, 2021 3:14 pm

Bolmaro is not a primary ball-handler. He's a wing who can be a secondary ball-handler and make quick passes through flow as well as off the dribble, but he's not a primary ball-handler.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#165 » by Klomp » Mon May 24, 2021 6:27 pm

TheZachAttack wrote:Bolmaro is not a primary ball-handler. He's a wing who can be a secondary ball-handler and make quick passes through flow as well as off the dribble, but he's not a primary ball-handler.

In an offense that doesn't necessarily need a "primary ball-handler," he could probably pass as enough of one.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#166 » by TheZachAttack » Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 pm

Klomp wrote:
TheZachAttack wrote:Bolmaro is not a primary ball-handler. He's a wing who can be a secondary ball-handler and make quick passes through flow as well as off the dribble, but he's not a primary ball-handler.

In an offense that doesn't necessarily need a "primary ball-handler," he could probably pass as enough of one.


That's somewhat fair. I think he can serve as something similar to one in terms of his ability to push the ball in transition and find others when he's handling the ball while sort of freestyling. However, I don't think he is ready to function as one setting up offenses and running sets in a structured way.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#167 » by old school 34 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:41 am

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TheZachAttack wrote:Bolmaro is not a primary ball-handler. He's a wing who can be a secondary ball-handler and make quick passes through flow as well as off the dribble, but he's not a primary ball-handler.

In an offense that doesn't necessarily need a "primary ball-handler," he could probably pass as enough of one.


That's somewhat fair. I think he can serve as something similar to one in terms of his ability to push the ball in transition and find others when he's handling the ball while sort of freestyling. However, I don't think he is ready to function as one setting up offenses and running sets in a structured way.
It's much easier to fit him into the rotation if you could have him as a pseudo PG combo guy...if he's just a 2 that could play small ball 3...that really runs into our positional log jam which just makes the decision a lot more difficult. But in the shared PG backcourt, I think I'd feel better about a Bolmaro paired up with Nowell over Beasley (I feel Beasley needs more of a truer PG next to him)?

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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#168 » by ClarkeW » Tue May 25, 2021 5:31 pm

Do we think Bolmaro can play SF? I’m trying to envision where he could fit into our lineup next year and, unless we trade Beasley, I’m struggling.

But a bench unit that features Rubio/Beasley/Bolmaro could be interesting. Allows Bolmaro to learn from Rubio on the court and takes playmaking pressure off of him, which I like. As long as he can defend some
bigger guys and shoot threes well enough that Beasley doesn’t get doubled, I think that could maybe work.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#169 » by jpatrick » Tue May 25, 2021 6:15 pm

ClarkeW wrote:Do we think Bolmaro can play SF? I’m trying to envision where he could fit into our lineup next year and, unless we trade Beasley, I’m struggling.

But a bench unit that features Rubio/Beasley/Bolmaro could be interesting. Allows Bolmaro to learn from Rubio on the court and takes playmaking pressure off of him, which I like. As long as he can defend some
bigger guys and shoot threes well enough that Beasley doesn’t get doubled, I think that could maybe work.


I sense that unless we move someone, he may not come over next year. He wants a clear role. That said, he may be able to play a few but not many minutes at the three right now. While he’s 6’6”, he’s really skinny. Much more of an active pest, jump in the passing lanes kinda defender, than someone that’s going to match up well against a 235 pound combo forward.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#170 » by KGdaBom » Tue May 25, 2021 8:06 pm

jpatrick wrote:
ClarkeW wrote:Do we think Bolmaro can play SF? I’m trying to envision where he could fit into our lineup next year and, unless we trade Beasley, I’m struggling.

But a bench unit that features Rubio/Beasley/Bolmaro could be interesting. Allows Bolmaro to learn from Rubio on the court and takes playmaking pressure off of him, which I like. As long as he can defend some
bigger guys and shoot threes well enough that Beasley doesn’t get doubled, I think that could maybe work.


I sense that unless we move someone, he may not come over next year. He wants a clear role. That said, he may be able to play a few but not many minutes at the three right now. While he’s 6’6”, he’s really skinny. Much more of an active pest, jump in the passing lanes kinda defender, than someone that’s going to match up well against a 235 pound combo forward.

He shouldn't be matched up against a combo forward. He should be matched up against a swing type player. However, I think any combo forward trying to guard Bolmaro is going to have a very tough time of it.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#171 » by Klomp » Tue May 25, 2021 8:13 pm

People get too caught up in positional labels. He could certainly play alongside both Rubio and Beasley in a lineup.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#172 » by KGdaBom » Fri May 28, 2021 4:15 pm

rulas95 wrote:
Neeva wrote:Would he be a lottery pick in the 2021 draft?


For me right now, he would be in middle first round.

He is going to be differencial in defense since day one.

Rulas or whoever. Where is my daily Bolmaro update. Are his playoffs over? How did Barca finish?

EDIT: I just did some research and found out the Euroleague Takes a break before playing the Final 4 which starts today. Good luck to Leandro and Barcelona.
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Post#173 » by old school 34 » Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm

Klomp wrote:People get too caught up in positional labels. He could certainly play alongside both Rubio and Beasley in a lineup.
I admit I can be one of those guys at times as well. And I have some of the similar concerns as well? Because I think in perfect world we'd all agree his best spot seems to be at the 2. Can the 3 of them make it work, sure....is it optimal, no. I think while V8 playing say next to Naz definitely helps from the rebounding perspective say with that 2nd unit...being bigger with Juancho @ the 3 also helped rebounding wise? Not saying it couldn't work...just think it's also not a slam dunk &/or optimal?

If he does come over and without significant other moves it almost has to eliminate all rotation minutes for not only more obvious guys like Nowell & Culver...but would pretty much guarantee Okogie out of rotation as well (of course, one can't 100% assume that but if we get best case version of Bolmaro...then)?

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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#174 » by jpatrick » Fri May 28, 2021 7:49 pm

Barcelona up 9 at half of their semi final game in the Euroleague final four.

Bolmaro played almost the entire second quarter, mostly at PG. Not sure he even took a shot. Made a couple nice passes for jumpers but wasn’t much of a factor on that end. On defense, he completely changed how Barca plays. His defensive intensity is contagious.

I think he’ll be able to stay in front of most NBA guards. Will struggle more with physical dudes as he is thin. On offense, didn’t see him shoot at all. He’s definitely going to need to work on his handle to take advantage of his athleticism. Had to turn his back to the defender several times to keep the bounce. I also question if he’s confident going left.

I like him. I hope he comes over. At worst, he’s a defensive wing that has a good BBIQ.
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Post#175 » by jpatrick » Fri May 28, 2021 9:00 pm

Great game. Barca hits jumper with half second left for two point win.

Milan absolutely ran Barca for most of the third quarter. Went from down 9 to up 9. Bolmaro was inserted with about four minutes left in the quarter and played the rest of the way. They desperately need him on defense. Barca has a ton of former NBA guys, but they are older and need his athleticism.

He played SG most of the way. Didn’t look to shoot at all. Made one jumper and missed a runner late but seemed timid on that end.

Nick Calathes, the Barca PG that was key in bringing them back, went down with an injury with four minutes to go. Bolmaro switched back over to PG. Wasn’t a smooth ending, but they won.

I think Barca would be better if he looked for his offense more. Final is this weekend. Doubt Calathes is back, which means Bolmaro will have to PG for most of the game.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#176 » by rulas95 » Sat May 29, 2021 9:14 am

As jpatrick has said.
Bolmaro yesterday was decisive in defense, possibly one of the best outside defenders in Europe.
While it is true that I do not agree that he played the majority of SG, he was playing PG substituting for Calathes, but when the game was tight Jasikevicius was forced to leave SG, both due to his defensive intensity and foul problems. of Higgins and Abrines.

On offense he was shy, although it is true that he has improved a lot in the boat and in managing the game times.

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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#177 » by rulas95 » Sun May 30, 2021 6:36 pm

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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#178 » by minimus » Sun May 30, 2021 7:28 pm

I have no doubt that with more experience Bolmaro can be a primary ballhandler for NBA team.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#179 » by RiRuHoops » Sun May 30, 2021 7:34 pm

Seeing Bolmoro for the first time, my initial impression: much taller more athletic Rubio without the passing wizardry, jump shooting is his main weakness obviously.
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Re: The Leandro Bolmaro thread 

Post#180 » by jpatrick » Sun May 30, 2021 8:32 pm

After watching these two games, I don’t think I’d be comfortable moving Beasley. Bolmaro shot 40% from three on limited attempts but he isn’t comfortable shooting. Timid on that end. They are constantly going under screens and sagging off and he’s not even looking at the rim.

My best comp for if he came over next year would be a Culver type with hopefully a little more confidence in his shot. Good wing size, plays hard, plays smart, solid defense. Not going to look for his offense much. Plenty of room to mature offensively over the next few years.

Micic, the Euroleague MVP, would be a fun compliment to SGA in Oklahoma City.

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