Fun facts and unreal stats

TimberKat · Post #161 » by **TimberKat** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:38 am

Klomp wrote:D'Angelo had his career-best turnover rate last year with 2.9 turnovers per36.
Mike Conley has never had a turnover rate over 2.5 turnovers per36.

How many times did Conley forgot to enter a game, leaving his team to play 4 on 5 ?

minimus · Post #162 » by **minimus** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:38 pm

Interesting to think about outside of picks. In one year TC replaced:

Russell (27), Beasley (26), Vando (24), Beverley (33), Bolmaro (22), Layman (29), Okogie (24)
with
Gobert (30), Conley (35), Kyle Anderson (29), Rivers (30), Moore (21), Garza (24), Minott (20), NAW (24)

Now I am thinking about 20yo Minott, 21yo Moore, 21yo Edwards and 22yo MCD. I guess it tells something about direction TC want to develop this team.

Post #163 » by **Klomp** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:00 am

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minimus · Post #164 » by **minimus** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:25 pm

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Colbinii · Post #165 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:09 pm

minimus wrote:

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Using statistics that are relevant:
9th in TS%
7th in eFG%

minimus · Post #166 » by **minimus** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:21 pm

Colbinii wrote:
minimus wrote:

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Using statistics that are relevant:
9th in TS%
7th in eFG%

Does it mean we have top-10 offense? We are top-5 in pace, but only 19th in ORtg...

Colbinii · Post #167 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:26 pm

minimus wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
minimus wrote:

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Using statistics that are relevant:
9th in TS%
7th in eFG%

Does it mean we have top-10 offense? We are top-5 in pace, but only 19th in ORtg...

No, because we are 28th in Turnover Economy and 26th in OREB% [OReb% isn't a bad thing, Boston and Philly also have horrible OReb% as does Dallas, all of which are above average offenses and is a trade off for defense]

shrink · Post #168 » by **shrink** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:45 pm

Colbinii wrote:No, because we are 28th in Turnover Economy and 26th in OREB% [OReb% isn't a bad thing, Boston and Philly also have horrible OReb% as does Dallas, all of which are above average offenses and is a trade off for defense]

One of the things that I’ve liked about Tim Connelly’s trades is that they have focused on what our team needs are. After last year’s MEM series, it was clear that we needed defensive rebounding and defense inside. Gobert may or may not fit with Towns, but he is elite in those two areas. Midway through this season, turnovers are killing us. We need to accept Ant’s TO’s as part of his learning curve, but moving DLo for Conley will decrease turnovers. Moreover, Conley is a much better guy to be whispering in Ant’s ear, not just about how to use Rudy, but how to learn the habits to be a professional for many years to come.

Post #169 » by **Klomp** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:37 pm

Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

TimberKat · Post #170 » by **TimberKat** » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:06 am

Klomp wrote:Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

I think the stat is a product of the Twolves organization and less on Finch's coaching ability.

Post #171 » by **Klomp** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 8:41 pm

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Post #172 » by **Klomp** » Thu Mar 2, 2023 10:42 pm

It's interesting going back to look at the Vegas odds in the West.

Sacramento, Utah and Oklahoma City already hit their overs in win projections. Denver (if finish 8-11 or better) and Memphis (if finish 12-9 or better) are likely to hit their overs. Everyone else either is not likely to hit their over or is already mathematically impossible to reach it.

Golden State and LA Clippers are not possible.
Phoenix will have to finish the season 19-0.
Minnesota will have to finish 18-0.
Dallas will have to finish 17-2.
LA Lakers and New Orleans have to finish 15-4.
Houston (11-9), San Antonio (8-12) and Portland (11-9) are not likely, even though they need far less.

I think people far underestimated the bloodbath of the West combined with the strength of the East, and that needs to be added to the context of this season as a whole in the league.

shrink · Post #173 » by **shrink** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 12:44 am

TimberKat wrote:
Klomp wrote:Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

I think the stat is a product of the Twolves organization and less on Finch's coaching ability.

Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

urinesane · Post #174 » by **urinesane** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 3:50 am

Klomp wrote:Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

But they aren't winning 50 games without KAT this season, FIRE HIM!!!!!

Note30 · Post #175 » by **Note30** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 5:43 am

urinesane wrote:
Klomp wrote:Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

But they aren't winning 50 games without KAT this season, FIRE HIM!!!!!

Aldelman never had a good roster.

Post #176 » by **Calinks** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 5:45 am

Klomp wrote:It's interesting going back to look at the Vegas odds in the West.

Sacramento, Utah and Oklahoma City already hit their overs in win projections. Denver (if finish 8-11 or better) and Memphis (if finish 12-9 or better) are likely to hit their overs. Everyone else either is not likely to hit their over or is already mathematically impossible to reach it.

Golden State and LA Clippers are not possible.
Phoenix will have to finish the season 19-0.
Minnesota will have to finish 18-0.
Dallas will have to finish 17-2.
LA Lakers and New Orleans have to finish 15-4.
Houston (11-9), San Antonio (8-12) and Portland (11-9) are not likely, even though they need far less.

I think people far underestimated the bloodbath of the West combined with the strength of the East, and that needs to be added to the context of this season as a whole in the league.

Man I remember a lot of people were saying take the over on the wolves, easy money. I tried to do it but my site wouldn't let me place a bet lol. Happy I didn't.

TimberKat · Post #177 » by **TimberKat** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 5:51 am

shrink wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
Klomp wrote:Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

I think the stat is a product of the Twolves organization and less on Finch's coaching ability.

Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

Last I check, Finch's record was 94-93, 1 game over .500. Can you name another NBA Team that only had 2 coaches with winning records? Flip was 427-392. The other "successful" coaches are Thib 97-107, Alderman 97-133. That is a very low bar to clear. It's like being the second most successful coach for the Cleveland Browns in the last 10 years. Anyone know who that is?

shrink · Post #178 » by **shrink** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 6:03 am

TimberKat wrote:
shrink wrote:
TimberKat wrote:I think the stat is a product of the Twolves organization and less on Finch's coaching ability.

Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

Last I check, Finch's record was 94-93, 1 game over .500. Can you name another NBA Team that only had 2 coaches with winning records? Flip was 427-392. The other "successful" coaches are Thib 97-107, Alderman 97-133. That is a very low bar to clear. It's like being the second most successful coach for the Cleveland Browns in the last 10 years. Anyone know who that is?

I see what you are saying now. Your quote is about him being #2, and that the organization has been bad for years, and that’s true.

However, I read it as you saying that Finch’s good record was just a bad coach with a good organization the last two years.

I think Finch doesn’t get enough credit. Just like previous coaches, this organization didn’t do the coach a lot of favors, and he may have had a worst time than most, with clear voids at certain positions. But unlike previous coaches, he still got wins, and has got a lot of them (by wolves standards) in a short amount of time.

urinesane · Post #179 » by **urinesane** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 6:33 pm

Note30 wrote:
urinesane wrote:
Klomp wrote:Chris Finch is 5 wins away from passing both Rick Adelman and Tom Thibodeau and holding the second most coaching wins in franchise history. He already holds the second best win percentage, and would currently need to lose 12 consecutive games in order to fall behind Thibodeau into third place.

But they aren't winning 50 games without KAT this season, FIRE HIM!!!!!

Aldelman never had a good roster.

He also was at the end of his career and definitely wasn't at his top form. Even then, compared to what Rombus and others had, the roster was one of the better ones (sadly) they'd had in a long time.

urinesane · Post #180 » by **urinesane** » Fri Mar 3, 2023 6:37 pm

shrink wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
shrink wrote:Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

Last I check, Finch's record was 94-93, 1 game over .500. Can you name another NBA Team that only had 2 coaches with winning records? Flip was 427-392. The other "successful" coaches are Thib 97-107, Alderman 97-133. That is a very low bar to clear. It's like being the second most successful coach for the Cleveland Browns in the last 10 years. Anyone know who that is?

I see what you are saying now. Your quote is about him being #2, and that the organization has been bad for years, and that’s true.

However, I read it as you saying that Finch’s good record was just a bad coach with a good organization the last two years.

I think Finch doesn’t get enough credit. Just like previous coaches, this organization didn’t do the coach a lot of favors, and he may have had a worst time than most, with clear voids at certain positions. But unlike previous coaches, he still got wins, and has got a lot of them (by wolves standards) in a short amount of time.

This. He came into a sh*tshow in the middle of a season and actually got them playing somewhat respectable ball by the end of the year. Last year he helped a roster that had HUGE deficiencies overachieve by catering to their talents and trying to cover up their weaknesses (i.e. what a good coach does). This season they've been without their best player for most of the year (yes, Ant is probably the #1 now, but KAT has been by far the best player on the roster for most of his time in MN).