Trade Talk (Part Thirteen): 2023 Offseason Edition

[KGdaBom]

Why get pippin, he just duplicates what mj does

We already have our MJ. What made the Bulls great was they had really good complimentary players surrounding MJ. They had the right mix. Remember they lost when it was just MJ for the first 5 years.

It's a team game. Right down to the bench.

That's my point, pippin does the same thing as mj, Dame does the same thing as ant. Ant and Dame would totally work together

However, Towns and Gobert don't do the same thing so they can't possibly work together. If only they were both back to the basket play only in the paint types.

[guest81]

We already have our MJ. What made the Bulls great was they had really good complimentary players surrounding MJ. They had the right mix. Remember they lost when it was just MJ for the first 5 years.

It's a team game. Right down to the bench.

That's my point, pippin does the same thing as mj, Dame does the same thing as ant. Ant and Dame would totally work together

However, Towns and Gobert don't do the same thing so they can't possibly work together. If only they were both back to the basket play only in the paint types.

Yea there's a difference in spacing between inside players and wing players

[KGdaBom]

That's my point, pippin does the same thing as mj, Dame does the same thing as ant. Ant and Dame would totally work together

However, Towns and Gobert don't do the same thing so they can't possibly work together. If only they were both back to the basket play only in the paint types.

Yea there's a difference in spacing between inside players and wing players

And that is what is so great about Towns. He's not an inside player. We get all the spacing we need.

[SO_MONEY]

However, Towns and Gobert don't do the same thing so they can't possibly work together. If only they were both back to the basket play only in the paint types.

Yea there's a difference in spacing between inside players and wing players

And that is what is so great about Towns. He's not an inside player. We get all the spacing we need.

Towns isn't a perimeter player, he can shoot, pick and pops, trailing threes... that kind of stuff. It is not like you don't want him working the block, you do. He is probably better than Rudy inside. On the perimeter if he goes to work as has been demonstrated he will barrel through three guys and pick up a charge. You also don't want to relegate him to just standing beyond the arch hoping he gets a look through ball rotation it is wasting his talents. He is an inside outside player, in that order... Rudy doesn't do him any favors.

[Domejandro]

A few points.

1. The immediate gap in impact between Damian Lillard and Karl-Anthony Towns is massive. Damian Lillard is coming off of a season where he averaged 32.2/4.8/7.3 on staggering shooting splits of 46.3/37.1/91.4. That is insane.

2. The idea that Damian Lillard would get in the way of Anthony Edwards doesn't hold water. If anything, Damian Lillard would draw away the best perimeter defensive player off of Anthony Edwards, in a lot of matchups.

3. No, Minnesota should not add Jaden McDaniels to a Damian Lillard for Karl-Anthony Towns swap.

[KGdaBom]

Yea there's a difference in spacing between inside players and wing players

And that is what is so great about Towns. He's not an inside player. We get all the spacing we need.

Towns isn't a perimeter player, he can shoot, pick and pops, trailing threes... that kind of stuff. It is not like you don't want him working the block, you do. He is probably better than Rudy inside. On the perimeter if he goes to work as has been demonstrated he will barrel through three guys and pick up a charge. You also don't want to relegate him to just standing beyond the arch hoping he gets a look through ball rotation it is wasting his talents. He is an inside outside player, in that order... Rudy doesn't do him any favors.

I guess KAT would be so much better if he wasn't good at the inside stuff. This just keeps getting funnier by the minute.

[younggunsmn]

Damian Lillard is a much better player than KAT at the moment.
That's not a knock on KAT, Lillard is just that dominant.

But he also turns 33 soon. And makes supermax money through age 36.
How much longer are you betting on Lillard maintaining his current level of excellence?

Given all his nagging injuries the past few years and insistence on Miami, I pass on a KAT for Lillard swap.

[guest81]

However, Towns and Gobert don't do the same thing so they can't possibly work together. If only they were both back to the basket play only in the paint types.

Yea there's a difference in spacing between inside players and wing players

And that is what is so great about Towns. He's not an inside player. We get all the spacing we need.

Defense is the biggest gap. Kat isn't a wing defender ( and not a good inside one either). I'd say kat is a perimeter player when he's being guarded by centers, but on this team he's guarded by power forwards

[SO_MONEY]

And that is what is so great about Towns. He's not an inside player. We get all the spacing we need.

Towns isn't a perimeter player, he can shoot, pick and pops, trailing threes... that kind of stuff. It is not like you don't want him working the block, you do. He is probably better than Rudy inside. On the perimeter if he goes to work as has been demonstrated he will barrel through three guys and pick up a charge. You also don't want to relegate him to just standing beyond the arch hoping he gets a look through ball rotation it is wasting his talents. He is an inside outside player, in that order... Rudy doesn't do him any favors.

I guess KAT would be so much better if he wasn't good at the inside stuff. This just keeps getting funnier by the minute.

You couldn't possibly walk away thinking this resembles anything I was saying if you actually read my post.

[KGdaBom]

Towns isn't a perimeter player, he can shoot, pick and pops, trailing threes... that kind of stuff. It is not like you don't want him working the block, you do. He is probably better than Rudy inside. On the perimeter if he goes to work as has been demonstrated he will barrel through three guys and pick up a charge. You also don't want to relegate him to just standing beyond the arch hoping he gets a look through ball rotation it is wasting his talents. He is an inside outside player, in that order... Rudy doesn't do him any favors.

I guess KAT would be so much better if he wasn't good at the inside stuff. This just keeps getting funnier by the minute.

You couldn't possibly walk away thinking this resembles anything I was saying if you actually read my post.

KAT can do anything we want him to on offense and IMO his Defense is not as bad as many believe.

[SO_MONEY]

Damian Lillard is a much better player than KAT at the moment.
That's not a knock on KAT, Lillard is just that dominant.

But he also turns 33 soon. And makes supermax money through age 36.
How much longer are you betting on Lillard maintaining his current level of excellence?

Given all his nagging injuries the past few years and insistence on Miami, I pass on a KAT for Lillard swap.

Unfortunately with everything invested in Rudy we can't put ourselves in a situation where we have nothing to show for any of it in a couple of years. KAT needs to bring back talent to support ANT... it is mission critical.

[SO_MONEY]

I guess KAT would be so much better if he wasn't good at the inside stuff. This just keeps getting funnier by the minute.

You couldn't possibly walk away thinking this resembles anything I was saying if you actually read my post.

KAT can do anything we want him to on offense and IMO his Defense is not as bad as many believe.

I didn't mention defense.

So, I suspect I was correct in you not reading my post.

[m2002brian]

I guess KAT would be so much better if he wasn't good at the inside stuff. This just keeps getting funnier by the minute.

You couldn't possibly walk away thinking this resembles anything I was saying if you actually read my post.

KAT can do anything we want him to on offense and IMO his Defense is not as bad as many believe.

It’s worse?

[KGdaBom]

You couldn't possibly walk away thinking this resembles anything I was saying if you actually read my post.

KAT can do anything we want him to on offense and IMO his Defense is not as bad as many believe.

I didn't mention defense.

So, I suspect I was correct in you not reading my post.

I read your post top to bottom. What I found funny was if KAT was just an outside player he would have been a perfect fit with Rudy, but since he's also good in close than he's a bad fit with Rudy.

[KGdaBom]

Brian I just couldn't handle your KAT negativity so I want you to be aware that you are back on my Foes list. The only one so far. Just understand if you reply to me I won't see the reply.

[KGdaBom]

Damian Lillard is a much better player than KAT at the moment.
That's not a knock on KAT, Lillard is just that dominant.

But he also turns 33 soon. And makes supermax money through age 36.
How much longer are you betting on Lillard maintaining his current level of excellence?

Given all his nagging injuries the past few years and insistence on Miami, I pass on a KAT for Lillard swap.

Unfortunately with everything invested in Rudy we can't put ourselves in a situation where we have nothing to show for any of it in a couple of years. KAT needs to bring back talent to support ANT... it is mission critical.

KAT is TALENT to support Ant. Just like Ant is TALENT to support KAT.

[SO_MONEY]

Damian Lillard is a much better player than KAT at the moment.
That's not a knock on KAT, Lillard is just that dominant.

But he also turns 33 soon. And makes supermax money through age 36.
How much longer are you betting on Lillard maintaining his current level of excellence?

Given all his nagging injuries the past few years and insistence on Miami, I pass on a KAT for Lillard swap.

Unfortunately with everything invested in Rudy we can't put ourselves in a situation where we have nothing to show for any of it in a couple of years. KAT needs to bring back talent to support ANT... it is mission critical.

KAT is TALENT to support Ant. Just like Ant is TALENT to support KAT.

I have seen enough of KAT, I want a clean break.

[m2002brian]

Brian I just couldn't handle your KAT negativity so I want you to be aware that you are back on my Foes list. The only one so far. Just understand if you reply to me I won't see the reply.

Kind of like how you can’t see how bad KAT’s defense is?

[KGdaBom]

Unfortunately with everything invested in Rudy we can't put ourselves in a situation where we have nothing to show for any of it in a couple of years. KAT needs to bring back talent to support ANT... it is mission critical.

KAT is TALENT to support Ant. Just like Ant is TALENT to support KAT.

I have seen enough of KAT, I want a clean break.

Don't it always seem to go you don't know what you got til it's gone.
Joni Mitchell and Counting Crows.

[SO_MONEY]

KAT can do anything we want him to on offense and IMO his Defense is not as bad as many believe.

I didn't mention defense.

So, I suspect I was correct in you not reading my post.

I read your post top to bottom. What I found funny was if KAT was just an outside player he would have been a perfect fit with Rudy, but since he's also good in close than he's a bad fit with Rudy.

See, I don't believe that because I never said he would be a good fit with Rudy respective of any specific skill set, just that Rudy takes away half his game or more where it isn't maximized. If KAT wasn't good on the inside it doesn't mean he would fit with Rudy, it would just mean he was less talented. Rudy doesn't just bog down KAT btw, he messed with ANT's game as well. The problem lies in Rudy not having any perimeter skills at all, not that KAT isn't versatile enough to come out beyond the arch. We sold the farm for a guy that is hard to build around. You are just projecting your beliefs by responding to things I didn't say because you wanted me to have said them.