Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition

[Neeva]

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Milton, Moore, couple of 2nd round picks for Ayo Dosunmu?

Gobert/Reid + Garza
Towns/Anderson/Miller
MCD/Brown/Minott
Edwards/NAW/Dosunmu + Clarke
Conley/Dosunmu/JMac + Nix

I watched some bulls games because I still like Lavine and Dosunmo is horrible, no thanks. Not even worth one second or Shake.

[KGdaBom]

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Milton, Moore, couple of 2nd round picks for Ayo Dosunmu?

Gobert/Reid + Garza
Towns/Anderson/Miller
MCD/Brown/Minott
Edwards/NAW/Dosunmu + Clarke
Conley/Dosunmu/JMac + Nix

I watched some bulls games because I still like Lavine and Dosunmo is horrible, no thanks. Not even worth one second or Shake.

Agreed.

[minimus]

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Milton, Moore, couple of 2nd round picks for Ayo Dosunmu?

Gobert/Reid + Garza
Towns/Anderson/Miller
MCD/Brown/Minott
Edwards/NAW/Dosunmu + Clarke
Conley/Dosunmu/JMac + Nix

I watched some bulls games because I still like Lavine and Dosunmo is horrible, no thanks. Not even worth one second or Shake.

IMO current Bulls make role players look much worse: Jevon Carter, Ayo Dosunmu, Pat Williams they all look bad.

[minimus]

I've listened a part of new Dane Moore podcast. As usual he pointed a couple of interesting things:

First, it look like Naz is struggling without a true playmaker in second unit. My hope before this season was that Milton can provide enough shooting and scoring to allow other bench player to install a ball movement. Naz is playing off the catch and he is a very quick decision maker. Shake's playing style looks like opposite of Naz, Shake is more methodical and ISO player. It was not a problem at the beginning of the season because Naz was red hot from deep. But right now he is kind of losing any rhythm in offense. My hope was that DET would waive Monte Morris, but Monte wont play this year, so we need another miracle to find a backup PG

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Second, Dane Moore and Britt discussed our lack shooting. I cant agree more. Hopefully TBJ can step up in McDaniels absence.

[minimus]

I hate to write it, but would you do this: after Dec.15, Naz Reid, Milton for Josh Giddey, Vasilije Micić and O.Dieng?

Gobert/Towns/Garza
Towns/Anderson/Minott + Miller
McDaniels/Giddey/Brown
Edwards/NAW + Dieng + Clark
Conley/Micić/McLaughlin + Nix

Why for OKC: they get Reid, who fits well as backup C, Presti has to rotate quickly young players, because insane amount of pick is incoming in next years.

Why for MIN: get backup PG, get versatile big wing to replace Anderson next year. Re-sign Conley, Garza, draft Tristan da Silva. Rotation next year:

Gobert/Towns/Garza
Towns/Minott/Miller + Tristan da Silva
McDaniels/Giddey/Brown
Edwards/NAW/Dieng + Clark
Conley/Micić/???

Forget it... Giddey just made a big mistake... Unless Presti offers five FRPs, Giddey, Vasilije Micić and O.Dieng for Reid

[Zonarosa]

I hate to write it, but would you do this: after Dec.15, Naz Reid, Milton for Josh Giddey, Vasilije Micić and O.Dieng?

Gobert/Towns/Garza
Towns/Anderson/Minott + Miller
McDaniels/Giddey/Brown
Edwards/NAW + Dieng + Clark
Conley/Micić/McLaughlin + Nix

Why for OKC: they get Reid, who fits well as backup C, Presti has to rotate quickly young players, because insane amount of pick is incoming in next years.

Why for MIN: get backup PG, get versatile big wing to replace Anderson next year. Re-sign Conley, Garza, draft Tristan da Silva. Rotation next year:

Gobert/Towns/Garza
Towns/Minott/Miller + Tristan da Silva
McDaniels/Giddey/Brown
Edwards/NAW/Dieng + Clark
Conley/Micić/???

Forget it... Giddey just made a big mistake... Unless Presti offers five FRPs, Giddey, Vasilije Micić and O.Dieng for Reid

what do you mean he made a mistake?

[minimus]

Forget it... Giddey just made a big mistake... Unless Presti offers five FRPs, Giddey, Vasilije Micić and O.Dieng for Reid

what do you mean he made a mistake?

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/twitter-reacts-on-josh-giddey-dating-under-age-girl-rumors

[Zonarosa]

Forget it... Giddey just made a big mistake... Unless Presti offers five FRPs, Giddey, Vasilije Micić and O.Dieng for Reid

what do you mean he made a mistake?

https://www.sportstiger.com/news/twitter-reacts-on-josh-giddey-dating-under-age-girl-rumors

Well, if it’s true…yikes.

[FrenchMinnyFan]

We have to give more time to Milton to see what he can do. But he is pretty disapointing so far. I tought we could have the best bench from /nba, we are not there at the moment. Starters are mostly on line with expectations but bench is not. Even Slomo and Reid don't play too well.

[shrink]

RealGM Radio was talking about how much better the Spurs would be if they had a legitimate scorer on the team, and whether it would be worth overpaying to add one this season, to help with development. The word “Overpaying” got my attention, and they talked about guys like Anfernee Simons. As they were finishing up, one said, “Imagine if they got Towns?!”

Now, I have no desire to trade Towns right now, and I want to see how far this season can go. It would probably take an Anthony Edwards season ending injury for me to consider a Towns trade. But the Spurs have the assets to pull it off. Just looking, but it would probably include Tre Jones and Jeremy Sochan, and if the owners are trying to cut salary, instead of Vassell or Keldon Johnson, it would likely be McDermott’s expiring and lots of picks. The Spurs have SOOO many picks, and I like word “overpay” so I would like to start with the unprotected 2025 and 2027 from ATL.

Again, I don’t want to trade Towns or wreck our suddenly promising future. But if we were forced to re-trench, the Spurs are an interesting destination.

[Klomp]

RealGM Radio was talking about how much better the Spurs would be if they had a legitimate scorer on the team, and whether it would be worth overpaying to add one this season, to help with development. The word “Overpaying” got my attention, and they talked about guys like Anfernee Simons. As they were finishing up, one said, “Imagine if they got Towns?!”

Now, I have no desire to trade Towns right now, and I want to see how far this season can go. It would probably take an Anthony Edwards season ending injury for me to consider a Towns trade. But the Spurs have the assets to pull it off. Just looking, but it would probably include Tre Jones and Jeremy Sochan, and if the owners are trying to cut salary, instead of Vassell or Kelton Johnson, it would likely be McDermott’s expiring and lots of picks. The Spurs have SOOO many picks, and I like word “overpay” so I would like to start with the unprotected 2025 and 2027 from ATL.

Again, I don’t want to trade Towns or wreck our suddenly promising future. But if we were forced to re-trench, the Spurs are an interesting destination.

Victor and Karl would be a very interesting combination. I think we would probably need Johnson though for me to consider it.

[TimberKat]

RealGM Radio was talking about how much better the Spurs would be if they had a legitimate scorer on the team, and whether it would be worth overpaying to add one this season, to help with development. The word “Overpaying” got my attention, and they talked about guys like Anfernee Simons. As they were finishing up, one said, “Imagine if they got Towns?!”

Now, I have no desire to trade Towns right now, and I want to see how far this season can go. It would probably take an Anthony Edwards season ending injury for me to consider a Towns trade. But the Spurs have the assets to pull it off. Just looking, but it would probably include Tre Jones and Jeremy Sochan, and if the owners are trying to cut salary, instead of Vassell or Kelton Johnson, it would likely be McDermott’s expiring and lots of picks. The Spurs have SOOO many picks, and I like word “overpay” so I would like to start with the unprotected 2025 and 2027 from ATL.

Again, I don’t want to trade Towns or wreck our suddenly promising future. But if we were forced to re-trench, the Spurs are an interesting destination.

Victor and Karl would be a very interesting combination. I think we would probably need Johnson though for me to consider it.

The way Towns been playing, you can trade him to anywhere. OKC would take him too. For SAS, I would take Vassell + picks only. Johnson is looking like a overpaid player. The way Ant's been playing the last few games, I am wondering if we trade him instead. You can't build around a player that only plays by himself. He is not leaping into the Booker, Fox, SGA level.

[twolves31]

RealGM Radio was talking about how much better the Spurs would be if they had a legitimate scorer on the team, and whether it would be worth overpaying to add one this season, to help with development. The word “Overpaying” got my attention, and they talked about guys like Anfernee Simons. As they were finishing up, one said, “Imagine if they got Towns?!”

Now, I have no desire to trade Towns right now, and I want to see how far this season can go. It would probably take an Anthony Edwards season ending injury for me to consider a Towns trade. But the Spurs have the assets to pull it off. Just looking, but it would probably include Tre Jones and Jeremy Sochan, and if the owners are trying to cut salary, instead of Vassell or Kelton Johnson, it would likely be McDermott’s expiring and lots of picks. The Spurs have SOOO many picks, and I like word “overpay” so I would like to start with the unprotected 2025 and 2027 from ATL.

Again, I don’t want to trade Towns or wreck our suddenly promising future. But if we were forced to re-trench, the Spurs are an interesting destination.

Victor and Karl would be a very interesting combination. I think we would probably need Johnson though for me to consider it.

The way Towns been playing, you can trade him to anywhere. OKC would take him too. For SAS, I would take Vassell + picks only. Johnson is looking like a overpaid player. The way Ant's been playing the last few games, I am wondering if we trade him instead. You can't build around a player that only plays by himself. He is not leaping into the Booker, Fox, SGA level.

Your Timberwolves fandom pass has been revoked for even considering trading the future league mvp Ant.

[shrink]

[Klomp]

I've never understood why people think that Tyus Jones will be unattainable at the trade deadline. If you don't want him, fine. But I don't know why he'd be untouchable from Washington's point of view.

[jpatrick]

I've never understood why people think that Tyus Jones will be unattainable at the trade deadline. If you don't want him, fine. But I don't know why he'd be untouchable from Washington's point of view.

He’s definitely not untouchable. It’s more about making a deal that works. Tyus makes 14 million. What salaries are we bundling to get to 14m? Unless you’re willing to move Anderson, I don’t see it. Plus, Washington will get assets back for Tyus. How many assets do you want to give for someone that probably can’t be retained financially in the offseason unless we move on from Conley or move one of the bigs.

[Klomp]

I've never understood why people think that Tyus Jones will be unattainable at the trade deadline. If you don't want him, fine. But I don't know why he'd be untouchable from Washington's point of view.

He’s definitely not untouchable. It’s more about making a deal that works. Tyus makes 14 million. What salaries are we bundling to get to 14m? Unless you’re willing to move Anderson, I don’t see it. Plus, Washington will get assets back for Tyus. How many assets do you want to give for someone that probably can’t be retained financially in the offseason unless we move on from Conley or move one of the bigs.

Anderson + Milton + the WAS/MEM 2nd is a pretty decent starting point. I've seen people say Miami will have interest in him, but I don't necessarily see them having assets either.

As for the financial thing, obviously you do this with the belief that you will be able to get a deal done with him. But it's not like Anderson and Milton are locks to be back either.

[wolves_89]

I've never understood why people think that Tyus Jones will be unattainable at the trade deadline. If you don't want him, fine. But I don't know why he'd be untouchable from Washington's point of view.

He’s definitely not untouchable. It’s more about making a deal that works. Tyus makes 14 million. What salaries are we bundling to get to 14m? Unless you’re willing to move Anderson, I don’t see it. Plus, Washington will get assets back for Tyus. How many assets do you want to give for someone that probably can’t be retained financially in the offseason unless we move on from Conley or move one of the bigs.

To trade for Tyus would require moving Anderson, so the question is whether the Wolves would be a better team after a deal. Personally, I think we would be a better team if we keep Kyle.

[Klomp]

I've never understood why people think that Tyus Jones will be unattainable at the trade deadline. If you don't want him, fine. But I don't know why he'd be untouchable from Washington's point of view.

He’s definitely not untouchable. It’s more about making a deal that works. Tyus makes 14 million. What salaries are we bundling to get to 14m? Unless you’re willing to move Anderson, I don’t see it. Plus, Washington will get assets back for Tyus. How many assets do you want to give for someone that probably can’t be retained financially in the offseason unless we move on from Conley or move one of the bigs.

To trade for Tyus would require moving Anderson, so the question is whether the Wolves would be a better team after a deal. Personally, I think we would be a better team if we keep Kyle.

The reason Kyle is so valuable to us right now is because we lack a viable backup point guard. With a trade to get a new facilitator, the need for Kyle lessens.

[wolves_89]

He’s definitely not untouchable. It’s more about making a deal that works. Tyus makes 14 million. What salaries are we bundling to get to 14m? Unless you’re willing to move Anderson, I don’t see it. Plus, Washington will get assets back for Tyus. How many assets do you want to give for someone that probably can’t be retained financially in the offseason unless we move on from Conley or move one of the bigs.

To trade for Tyus would require moving Anderson, so the question is whether the Wolves would be a better team after a deal. Personally, I think we would be a better team if we keep Kyle.

The reason Kyle is so valuable to us right now is because we lack a viable backup point guard. With a trade to get a new facilitator, the need for Kyle lessens.

True, but Kyle also fills a ton of gaps that Tyus won't. At this point I'm not confident that the Wolves could adequately replace Anderson's SF/PF minutes.