The Rob Dillingham Thread

[winforlose]

Why don't the players get measured barefoot and then, because everyone wears shoes, the NBA simply adds the same amount after the fact (e.g. +1.5 inches)?

This approach is more or less what I suggested above. A guys barefoot height is also a bad measure of his standing reach because the shoes making him taller will also extend that reach. A barefoot measurement is only meaningful in a barefoot game.

[KGdaBom]

Why don't the players get measured barefoot and then, because everyone wears shoes, the NBA simply adds the same amount after the fact (e.g. +1.5 inches)?

This approach is more or less what I suggested above. A guys barefoot height is also a bad measure of his standing reach because the shoes making him taller will also extend that reach. A barefoot measurement is only meaningful in a barefoot game.

A barefoot measurement is 100% meaningful. We all know they will wear shoes. Barefoot measurements are the only right way to compare players. Standing reach should also be done barefoot. It's just ridiculous giving a fake height for everybody. They will not all wear the same height of shoes so why pretend they do? A person's height is how tall they are without adding whatever shoes add. I've got some platform shoes. I guess I can go on a dating sight and my profile will read 6'3". Nobody should complain about that (sarcasm).

Honesty is the best policy.

PS: NBA heights in shoes is one of my biggest NBA pet peeves. I see the practice as pure BS and it seems the NBA is coming around to my way of thinking. W4L and anybody else who sees value in it knock yourselves out. I have no right to tell you not to value it.

[younggunsmn]

I get it, barefoot is more accurate all things considered.

But you also care a lot more about how tall a guy is while he's playing the game than standing there barefoot, and they play with shoes on.

So my view is that as long as they are honest and wearing the shoes they actually play the games in when measured, I'm ok with the measurements in shoes being used in their bios.

I have high arches so my heels get torn all to hell if I wear low cut shoes.
Everyone is different.

[Worm Guts]

You should be trying to measure the player not their equipment. If the size of equipment is meaningful, they can change it. The player however can only be the size that he is.

[younggunsmn]

Well the league looks more impressive if they say the players are taller.
So there is that incentive.

[KGdaBom]

Well the league looks more impressive if they say the players are taller.
So there is that incentive.

Yep fake the measurements to make the players seem more impressive, but they are finally going away from it.

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[KGdaBom]

What you all think is Dilly going to be Dillingham's nickname?

[m2002brian]

What you all think is Dilly going to be Dillingham's nickname?

Staying with Marvel names

Antman - Anthony Edwards
Iron Patriot (Rhodey) - Rob Dillingham (RoDi)

[winforlose]

What you all think is Dilly going to be Dillingham's nickname?

Staying with Marvel names

Antman - Anthony Edwards
Iron Patriot (Rhodey) - Rob Dillingham (RoDi)

Given that KAT sounds like cat, you probably need a black panther reference at the very least.

Given Jaden’s temper he is probably the hulk of the team.

Rudy likes to dunk a lot so he keeps bringing the hammer down, thus Thor.

I could go on. You want a clever Avengers reference for RD. Call him the Ironman of the NBA because he brings the R&D wherever he goes.

[minimus]

Guys, I need your help. I am out of context, I know nothing about US educational system, so please bear with me. I have following questions:

1) Dillingham played for Cold Hearts in Overtime Elite. Whats the level of this league? Do coaches there give a good, fundamental basketball education? It looks like most of games are made of highlight reels for social media.

2) After Cold Hearts he played for University of Kentucky. But Callipari was not there, how good is Mark Pope as coach?

3) How good is University of Kentucky roster? I mean how I should look Dillingham numbers in Kentucky? Did he have Tray Young NBA role in offense as main ballhandler? Or was he more 6th man scorer as Lou Williams? Was he the only scorer on the court, i.e. the best PoA defender was on him whole game?

4) his game is kind of mix of highlight individual possessions with some blend of passing, pick-n-rolls and high level team plays such as horns, double drag screens (what DAL did against MIN in playoffs). Is his game kind of mix between Cold Heart / Kentucky? He is only 19yo, does he lack basketball fundamentals, especially in defense?

[Worm Guts]

Guys, I need your help. I am out of context, I know nothing about US educational system, so please bear with me. I have following questions:

1) Dillingham played for Cold Hearts in Overtime Elite. Whats the level of this league? Do coaches there give a good, fundamental basketball education? It looks like most of games are made of highlight reels for social media.

2) After Cold Hearts he played for University of Kentucky. But Callipari was not there, how good is Mark Pope as coach?

3) How good is University of Kentucky roster? I mean how I should look Dillingham numbers in Kentucky? Did he have Tray Young NBA role in offense as main ballhandler? Or was he more 6th man scorer as Lou Williams? Was he the only scorer on the court, i.e. the best PoA defender was on him whole game?

4) his game is kind of mix of highlight individual possessions with some blend of passing, pick-n-rolls and high level team plays such as horns, double drag screens (what DAL did against MIN in playoffs). Is his game kind of mix between Cold Heart / Kentucky? He is only 19yo, does he lack basketball fundamentals, especially in defense?

The one question I can answer is 2 because Calipari was there, he left at the end of the season.

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Lets compare, D-Lo, Jaylen Nowell and Malik Beasley roles, that allowed MIN offense to succeed.

1) DLo: slow, methodical as playmaker, loves midrange, loves pull-up 3s, heat checks, does not attack rim, could not find rhythm with Gobert, Towns and Edwards. His defense was partially mitigated by making him a roamer

2) Malik Beaskey: shot a lot of threes by running without ball, could not defend/rebound, black hole in offense, non existent defense

3) Jaylen Nowell: elite touch from midrange, his shot completely abonded him once Gobert came here, bad defender.

4) Shake Milton: methodical, slow, does not want to take pull up 3s, no defense.

So it looks like all three had opportunities to grow, or fit better in role as 6th man, secondary ballhandler, off ball scorer. Dillingham can fit in all three roles and I think his defense will grow by playing within good team defense. Just like Naz Reid from horrible defender grew into average defender.

[Neeva]

He’s just 19 and a half maybe he can still grow? he looks like a late bloomer, still looks like a kid.

[shangrila]

He’s just 19 and a half maybe he can still grow? he looks like a late bloomer, still looks like a kid.

Maybe. He won't be able to escape being undersized even if he does grow another inch though.

The bigger issue is the weight but I expect that to improve as time goes on. For reference Jamal Shead was 175 when he entered college and weighed in at the Combine at 200, so I'd expect to see Dillingham somewhere similar in 3-4 years.

[winforlose]

RD has not finished puberty. Or at least he looks like he hasn’t. Men tend to put on more muscle when they do. I could easily see him gaining an inch or even 2 in the next years. There are plenty of people including Ant and Jaden who gained inches at 20 or 21. I also want to refer you guys back to a Dane Moore pod where new ownership did a guest appearance talking about the emphasis that they, TC, and Finch put on conditioning. The team has everything from professionals, to equipment, to a culture of strength and wellness. I believe the conditioning will take care of itself. For me the question is his play making. When Mike is gone and RD/Ant is your backcourt, can they create enough for everyone else? Ant has been better at it, but has said he doesn’t like doing it all the time. He likes being off ball and letting Mike create things for him, rather than having to create for Jaden, Karl, Rudy, ect… RD being an efficient scorer is excellent. But being a true PG who can distribute and get his own (Like Mike,) is gonna be vital for the Ant window. Otherwise RD is more of a backup to Ant instead of a running mate. That is why I think we need Mike to mentor the kid.

[jpatrick]

Guys, I need your help. I am out of context, I know nothing about US educational system, so please bear with me. I have following questions:

1) Dillingham played for Cold Hearts in Overtime Elite. Whats the level of this league? Do coaches there give a good, fundamental basketball education? It looks like most of games are made of highlight reels for social media.

2) After Cold Hearts he played for University of Kentucky. But Callipari was not there, how good is Mark Pope as coach?

3) How good is University of Kentucky roster? I mean how I should look Dillingham numbers in Kentucky? Did he have Tray Young NBA role in offense as main ballhandler? Or was he more 6th man scorer as Lou Williams? Was he the only scorer on the court, i.e. the best PoA defender was on him whole game?

4) his game is kind of mix of highlight individual possessions with some blend of passing, pick-n-rolls and high level team plays such as horns, double drag screens (what DAL did against MIN in playoffs). Is his game kind of mix between Cold Heart / Kentucky? He is only 19yo, does he lack basketball fundamentals, especially in defense?

From what I know, OE is a high school that is a basketball academy of sorts. I’m sure the training is good, the competition is a very small league that is mostly transition. The Thompson twins were there.

As said above, Calipari was at Kentucky last year.

Kentucky was an odd group. Sheppard and Dilly were probably their two best players but came off the bench. Sheppard’s on/off and efficiency numbers are pretty historic for a freshman guard. I’ve watched a few Kentucky games since the draft, Dilly definitely did not play a floor general PG role. He could get in the paint at will and would make some nice dump offs, but I didn’t see the quick ball movement or advanced reads of Sheppard. Dilly was horrendous defensively. If you want to peg his role, it was more Lou Williams. What he did show was the ability to get into the paint at will, shoot a very high percentage from three, and come up big at end of games. When he was on a roll, he was pretty unstoppable.

His defensive was awful in part due to size/fundamentals but in part because he gave zero effort on that end.

Can he develop defensively and as a point guard, that is the bet TC is making.

[Slim Tubby]

You should be trying to measure the player not their equipment. If the size of equipment is meaningful, they can change it. The player however can only be the size that he is.

Are we still talking about basketball here?

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[winforlose]

You should be trying to measure the player not their equipment. If the size of equipment is meaningful, they can change it. The player however can only be the size that he is.

Are we still talking about basketball here?

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If they started measuring equipment size at the combine, I suspect a very different type/demographic of fan would take interest. Simultaneously the Wives/GFs of NBA players might start murdering people.