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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#161 » by moss_is_1 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:38 pm

Not a big surprise. Minott might still stick somewhere he can play.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#162 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:40 pm

Ok. What about Miller?

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#163 » by younggunsmn » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:40 pm

I have us at about 9.6 million below the forecasted 2nd apron level with 12 players under contract and 2 spots to fill.
If one of those is the vet min (2,296,271), it would leave us about 7.2 million below the 2nd apron for one other player.

We have the 5.7 mil taxpayer MLE
8.78 million TPE from the Kyle Anderson trade (expires 7/6)
4.68 mil TPE from the KAT trade (expires 10/2).

Go get a good backup PG.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#164 » by younggunsmn » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:42 pm

MN7725 wrote:I'm intrigued by Brogdon (assuming that getting a guard will be FA only, not a trade)

been in NBA wastelands after getting traded for Jrue and then Deni, just have to hope you can get 60 games from him

not a "PG", but I think getting a bucket getter that the defense has to worry about is more important than a facilitator type PG like Tyus or Aaron Holiday


The only team Brogdon should be signing with is weight watchers.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#165 » by Rookie-Mistake » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:43 pm

younggunsmn wrote:I have us at about 9.6 million below the forecasted 2nd apron level with 12 players under contract and 2 spots to fill.
If one of those is the vet min (2,296,271), it would leave us about 7.2 million below the 2nd apron for one other player.

We have the 5.7 mil taxpayer MLE
8.78 million TPE from the Kyle Anderson trade (expires 7/6)
4.68 mil TPE from the KAT trade (expires 10/2).

Go get a good backup PG.
Gimme that list.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#166 » by MN7725 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:46 pm

younggunsmn wrote:
MN7725 wrote:I'm intrigued by Brogdon (assuming that getting a guard will be FA only, not a trade)

been in NBA wastelands after getting traded for Jrue and then Deni, just have to hope you can get 60 games from him

not a "PG", but I think getting a bucket getter that the defense has to worry about is more important than a facilitator type PG like Tyus or Aaron Holiday


The only team Brogdon should be signing with is weight watchers.


keep having your Derrick White dreams

this is the caliber of player the Wolves are going to be getting
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#167 » by younggunsmn » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:46 pm

If we sign Tyus for the 5.7 MLE, next year we could give him a raise to 8, and the year after as an Early Bird we could pay him up to MLE money.
It's kinda Joe Smithy but if he wanted to play for his hometown team and a contender maybe he'd go for it, and he'd have a path to a starting spot as early as this year.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#168 » by younggunsmn » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:47 pm

MN7725 wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:
MN7725 wrote:I'm intrigued by Brogdon (assuming that getting a guard will be FA only, not a trade)

been in NBA wastelands after getting traded for Jrue and then Deni, just have to hope you can get 60 games from him

not a "PG", but I think getting a bucket getter that the defense has to worry about is more important than a facilitator type PG like Tyus or Aaron Holiday


The only team Brogdon should be signing with is weight watchers.


keep having your Derrick White dreams

this is the caliber of player the Wolves are going to be getting


You have me confused with someone else friend.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#169 » by Mattya » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:51 pm

Wolves out:Gobert, Suns and Warriors future 2nd rounders
Wolves In: Simons, Bitadze, Dallas and Miami 2027 protected picks

Hornets out: Bitadze, Dallas and Miami 2027 protected picks, Okogie
Hornets: Gobert

Hornets get their center and push for the playoffs in a weakened eastern conference

Celtics Out: Simons
Celtics In: Okogie, Suns and Warriors future 2nds

Celtics save money to resign their players

Simons, Dillingham, Conley, Bones(2way)
Ant, Divo, Clark
McDaniels, TSJ
Randle, Miller
Reid, Bitadze, Beringer, Rocco (2way)
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#170 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:53 pm

Mattya wrote:Wolves out:Gobert, Suns and Warriors future 2nd rounders
Wolves In: Simons, Bitadze, Dallas and Miami 2027 protected picks

Hornets out: Bitadze, Dallas and Miami 2027 protected picks, Okogie
Hornets: Gobert

Hornets get their center and push for the playoffs in a weakened eastern conference

Celtics Out: Simons
Celtics In: Okogie, Suns and Warriors future 2nds

Celtics save money to resign their players

Simons, Dillingham, Conley, Bones(2way)
Ant, Divo, Clark
McDaniels, TSJ
Randle, Miller
Reid, Bitadze, Beringer, Rocco (2way)


Bitadze would absolutely start ahead of Naz. He's a full-sized center that defends and rebounds.

But he's also on the Magic...
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#171 » by younggunsmn » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:01 am

Copying from Capology thread for quick reference:

6/29/25 Post Randle signing and Minott and Garza being waived:

2025-2026 (6/27/25)
Edwards 45,550,512
Gobert 35,000,000
Randle 30,864,198
McDaniels 24,393,103
Reid 21,551,724
Divencenzo 11,990,000
Conley 10,774,038
Dillingham 6,576,120
Beringer 4,201,080
Shannon 2,674,080
Miller 2,221,677
Clark 2,191,897
Total 197,988,429

Placeholders:
13 Vet Min 2,296,271
14 Vet Min 2,296,271

2-way Rocco Zikarsky

10% Cap Bump scenario
Luxury tax line: 187,895,400
!st Apron line: 195,946,000
2nd Apron line: 207,824,100

tax line space: -10,093,029
1st Apron line: -2,042,429
2nd apron space: 9,835,671
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#172 » by Rookie-Mistake » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:05 am

younggunsmn wrote:Copying from Capology thread for quick reference:

6/29/25 Post Randle signing and Minott and Garza being waived:

2025-2026 (6/27/25)
Edwards 45,550,512
Gobert 35,000,000
Randle 30,864,198
McDaniels 24,393,103
Reid 21,551,724
Divencenzo 11,990,000
Conley 10,774,038
Dillingham 6,576,120
Beringer 4,201,080
Shannon 2,674,080
Miller 2,221,677
Clark 2,191,897
Total 197,988,429

Placeholders:
13 Vet Min 2,296,271
14 Vet Min 2,296,271

2-way Rocco Zikarsky

10% Cap Bump scenario
Luxury tax line: 187,895,400
!st Apron line: 195,946,000
2nd Apron line: 207,824,100

tax line space: -10,093,029
1st Apron line: -2,042,429
2nd apron space: 9,835,671
Good work.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#173 » by Worm Guts » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:25 am

younggunsmn wrote:If we sign Tyus for the 5.7 MLE, next year we could give him a raise to 8, and the year after as an Early Bird we could pay him up to MLE money.
It's kinda Joe Smithy but if he wanted to play for his hometown team and a contender maybe he'd go for it, and he'd have a path to a starting spot as early as this year.


I think I’d be more likely to target a 4th big. I feel like we have to keep a pathway for Dillingham to play.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#174 » by Nick K » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:42 am

KGdaBom wrote:On another thread it was posted we declined Garza and Minott. I'll really miss Garza.


I'll miss Garza too. He never really got a legit shot. They may still bring him back. We'll see. I know the Wolves love him.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#175 » by Nick K » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:46 am

younggunsmn wrote:If we sign Tyus for the 5.7 MLE, next year we could give him a raise to 8, and the year after as an Early Bird we could pay him up to MLE money.
It's kinda Joe Smithy but if he wanted to play for his hometown team and a contender maybe he'd go for it, and he'd have a path to a starting spot as early as this year.


Tyus is worth 5.7 mil. He won't play for that. The Wolves are going all in with Dilly this year. That's why they drafted him last year.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#176 » by Rookie-Mistake » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:55 am

Nick K wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:If we sign Tyus for the 5.7 MLE, next year we could give him a raise to 8, and the year after as an Early Bird we could pay him up to MLE money.
It's kinda Joe Smithy but if he wanted to play for his hometown team and a contender maybe he'd go for it, and he'd have a path to a starting spot as early as this year.


Tyus is worth 5.7 mil. He won't play for that. The Wolves are going all in with Dilly this year. That's why they drafted him last year.
Im really worried about this and happy to be proven wrong. He must be the lightest player in the NBA.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#177 » by younggunsmn » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:04 am

Nick K wrote:
younggunsmn wrote:If we sign Tyus for the 5.7 MLE, next year we could give him a raise to 8, and the year after as an Early Bird we could pay him up to MLE money.
It's kinda Joe Smithy but if he wanted to play for his hometown team and a contender maybe he'd go for it, and he'd have a path to a starting spot as early as this year.


Tyus is worth 5.7 mil. He won't play for that. The Wolves are going all in with Dilly this year. That's why they drafted him last year.


Maybe, so, but that's also the kind of thinking that gets you blown out by 30 in an elimination game in the conference finals because you're not comfortable putting your 19 year old backup PG on the floor.
I'm not comfortable with Rob and Mike as the only PGs on the roster.
I'd much rather add an established player and force Rob to earn it, to beat Mike out for minutes by the end of the year.
He's not close to ready right now if the goal is to be consistently winning games.

I want us back to winning 2 out of every 3 games, not straddling .500 all year like last year.

With that final 14th spot you can add someone who can play PF or C.
McDaniels is our 3rd string PF and will see time there in smaller lineups.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#178 » by moss_is_1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:10 am

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younggunsmn wrote:If we sign Tyus for the 5.7 MLE, next year we could give him a raise to 8, and the year after as an Early Bird we could pay him up to MLE money.
It's kinda Joe Smithy but if he wanted to play for his hometown team and a contender maybe he'd go for it, and he'd have a path to a starting spot as early as this year.


I think I’d be more likely to target a 4th big. I feel like we have to keep a pathway for Dillingham to play.

Agree. We have guys that can handle in a pinch. Dilly and Mike should be holding down PG, Ddv started there last year at times, and Ant is having the ball a majority as it is.

If Rudy misses time we have to rely on Naz starting, with 2 18 year olds who are super raw backing him up. Not ideal.

I think we could get a decent enough 3rd pg for the minimum, if we really wanted. Tyus just signed for that for Phoenix(though it was for a starting spot).

We can always split it up between a pg and center too.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#179 » by younggunsmn » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:26 am

We have 2 roster spots, a PG and a Center makes sense.
I just think the Center will be a vet min and if we have more money to spend we should use it on the PG.

Any big we sign isnt going to play at all barring injury.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#180 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:15 am

I think Tyus could go for it if he got the guarantee he will start. And with Mike and Rob, we have 3 guys able to play. If Rob improve...

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