Officlal Prospect thread

Devilzsidewalk · Post #161 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:12 pm

I like his defensive potential though, that'd be a huge help to have SF w/ tentacle arms if we're gonna play AL and Love

Krapinsky · Post #162 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:22 pm

I'm coming around on Aminu, but I wonder if he's any better than some of the lesser known wing talent in the draft, e.g. Jeff Taylor, Paul George.

PeeDee · Post #163 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:37 pm

Paul George has the superior jumper, albeit wonky looking, but he's behind ALFA in all other categories. They are both terrific athletes though. I don't know squat about Jeff Taylor.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #164 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:22 am

here's an interview with Turner, kinda OT, but some stuff about playing in Serbia is

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball ... &type=lgns

Esohny · Post #165 » by **Esohny** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:17 am

Is Paul George more of a SG than a SF like Turner?

Krapinsky · Post #166 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:56 am

Esohny wrote:Is Paul George more of a SG than a SF like Turner?

No, he's not as adept to putting the ball on the floor. Actually, not even close. He needs to add some weight but he could be a mid-first round sleeper a la Danny Granger.

panth181 · Post #167 » by **panth181** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:24 pm

Just to show that I'm not always a complete douchebag and am capable of "contributing" something to the board...

Wesley Johnson looked absolutely ridiculous against North Carolina. The elite athleticism he's always shown, but more importantly scary good touch on his shot - both midrange and from the outside. This is the type of stuff that seperates your typical athletic d-league veteran from a legit NBA pro.

But it was one game, and in the past Johnson has not been nearly as good a shooter. He was horrible as a soph at Iowa State, completely selfish and unwilling to do anything with his athleticism on the interior.

I want to see him keep it up for a few more games before I anoint him a lottery pick, but the early word is downright scary. He may have put it all together and could now be on track to have a Josh Howard like career at the next level...

As for Paul George, I struggle with him being a lottery pick. He is horribly inefficient even at the low level he plays at, and is nowhere near ready to play on the perimeter other than as a spot up shooter (he's not even very good at that). Of course he is completely focused on this part of his game.

Is he any better than the last NBA prospect to come out of Fresno St, Dominic McGuire? At least McGuire was willing to do his thing around the rim.

I haven't watched any tape of Fresno St yet this year (hope to tonight), but I wonder if their freshman big guy isn't the better player...

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/player/pr ... erId=46245

He destroyed a frontcourt with a couple of possible pro's last night vs San Diego St...

Krapinsky · Post #168 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:08 am

Paul George surely hasn't started well this year. I'm curious to hear your report on him, JDubs. He very may well be a player a few years away, a la Austin Daye, but unlike Daye apparently has already added significant weight to his frame.

panth181 · Post #169 » by **panth181** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:34 am

I don't have a strong read on George, but that was my take from limited viewing last year. I reserve the right to change my opinion on that one...

NewWolvesOrder · Post #170 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:00 am

well, here's another triple-double by Turner tonight : 16pts (8-14), 11asts, 10 rebs, also 3 stls, 2 blks, 5 to.

PeeDee · Post #171 » by **PeeDee** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:23 am

james harden wrote:well, here's another triple-double by Turner tonight : 16pts (8-14), 11asts, 10 rebs, also 3 stls, 2 blks, 5 to.

Am I crazy to think we should draft Turner no matter how high of a pick we get? He's perfect for this team.

Esohny · Post #172 » by **Esohny** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:28 am

PeeDee wrote:
james harden wrote:well, here's another triple-double by Turner tonight : 16pts (8-14), 11asts, 10 rebs, also 3 stls, 2 blks, 5 to.

Am I crazy to think we should draft Turner no matter how high of a pick we get? He's perfect for this team.

At least for me. I'd still go Wall if we got the #1, but I would probably go Turner over Favors at #2.

deeney0 · Post #173 » by **deeney0** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:34 am

Esohny wrote:
PeeDee wrote:
james harden wrote:well, here's another triple-double by Turner tonight : 16pts (8-14), 11asts, 10 rebs, also 3 stls, 2 blks, 5 to.

Am I crazy to think we should draft Turner no matter how high of a pick we get? He's perfect for this team.

At least for me. I'd still go Wall if we got the #1, but I would probably go Turner over Favors at #2.

That's how I feel right now, too, but I need to see more Favors. I'm determined not getting my heart set on anyone this year, but I'd have a hard time passing on Turner for the likes of Aldrich or Warren.

slinky · Post #174 » by **slinky** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:32 pm

For me, i would not be diappointed if we got the 1st or 3rd pick this year. I like all three of them.

I saw some of the Kentucky game yesterday...(Newsflash: John Wall is good) and I still think I would take him first, obviously the competition was relatively average, but Wall went anywhere he wanted on the court, and actually was a very willing passer, considering he can get his shot anytime he wants. So he is still my top pick.

But Favors and Turner are too close for me, which is why I want the 3rd pick. I want someone else to make that decision for me and then I will take the leftovers. I think Favors could be an athletic dominant post player, while Turner is the most versatile guy in the draft who fills our biggest need.

Post #175 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:05 pm

You're not the first person to say that, but I hate that philosphy. I'd always rather have the higher pick, let's see Kahn's talent evaluation in action.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #176 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:14 pm

Favors might just go #1, who knows.

jpatrick · Post #177 » by **jpatrick** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:43 pm

Favors is a freak. He could go #1 although I think Wall is the current favorite.

Turner's handle is just ridiculous. He'd be the perfect 2 in the triangle because he can go into the post like Jordan and Kobe and run the offense from there.

What I didn't see again against Lipscomb was him hitting anything outside 5 feet even though they were giving him the 18 footer. You could argue that he shouldn't take the jumper when he get past his man but in the pros he's going to have to hit that shot consistently and a little farther out. I've watched at least some of every OSU game so far this season and I don't know if he can shoot or not because I haven't seen him do it.

I watched about half of the UF/FSU game last night, was hoping that Alabi would blow me away but he didn't do much. It was just one game so no judgments made.

PeeDee · Post #178 » by **PeeDee** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:52 pm

jpatrick wrote:What I didn't see again against Lipscomb was him hitting anything outside 5 feet even though they were giving him the 18 footer. You could argue that he shouldn't take the jumper when he get past his man but in the pros he's going to have to hit that shot consistently and a little farther out. I've watched at least some of every OSU game so far this season and I don't know if he can shoot or not because I haven't seen him do it.

Turner hit a couple from the top of the key last night, his midrange game is terriffic and he does fine from 3, just doesn't take them much. I think what we are seeing is him being able to create and or finish inside so well that he'd just rather take or create the high percentage shot.

I know Wall and Favors are considered more upside or whatever, but I'm in love with Turner. Have been since this time last year.

slinky · Post #179 » by **slinky** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:55 pm

Worm Guts wrote:You're not the first person to say that, but I hate that philosphy. I'd always rather have the higher pick, let's see Kahn's talent evaluation in action.

Agreed, I am saying I wouldnt want someone to ask me who i would take Favors vs. Turner, I am too spineless to take that chance. But I agree I would hope an NBA team would want the highest possible pick

Krapinsky · Post #180 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:48 pm

I want Turner over Favors. He reminds me of a young Scottie Pippen and we already have Love. I think you have to draft on need to an extent not. Too many teams are also rebuilding and as a result too many young players are deemed close to untouchable. Trading one of Love/Favors/Jefferson for fair value won't be easy. Other teams will have the leverage in that situation. I don't think we would be able to get a player of Turner's caliber in return.

The only way I'm considering taking Favors is if Love or Jefferson is moved before the draft. And even then, Favors isn't a great fit next to either Love or Jefferson.