Trade Talk (Part Nine) (READ FIRST POST)

[NebWolvesFan]

For me, I go for Barnes. If Sac could get Beasley, Okogie, Layman and Minnesota's first for Barnes and Jones, I bet they would do it. Getting a top 20 and maybe top 15 pick for Barnes at age 29 is solid. Beasley replaces Hield who's probably going to Cleveland for Rubio and Okogie could be a 4 million a year perimeter defender. I would even add a second round pick or make it where the FRP only conveys if it's lands 8-18 this year with it being top 8 protected in 2023. That way the Kings get two chances at Minnesota lottery pick.

I also like Beasley/Okogie for Olynyk/Joseph as my plan B.

Let's keep Prince and Beverley.

[Baseline81]

At this point, it would behoove the Wolves to stand pat, unless fringe players and second round picks are involved.

[Note30]

Marcus Smart makes sense as a successor to Beverley, but I don't want that contract that's about to kick in. If we are going to pay someone $15M plus, I would want to go after someone that is more of a complete player

Were paying bev $15

[life_saver]

I like Richardson...he is an above average 3 pt shooter, decent defender and his value currently doesn't too high. I remember few years back when Heat were looking to trade for Jimmy, he was the main piece in the trade that Heat were offering.

[moss_is_1]

I like Richardson...he is an above average 3 pt shooter, decent defender and his value currently doesn't too high. I remember few years back when Heat were looking to trade for Jimmy, he was the main piece in the trade that Heat were offering.

If we're swapping Beasley for him I'm all for it. Beasley is a more dangerous shooter, but Richardson does everything else better.

[NebWolvesFan]

I like Richardson...he is an above average 3 pt shooter, decent defender and his value currently doesn't too high. I remember few years back when Heat were looking to trade for Jimmy, he was the main piece in the trade that Heat were offering.

If we're swapping Beasley for him I'm all for it. Beasley is a more dangerous shooter, but Richardson does everything else better.

Richardson is also cheaper. I would like to take a look at Nesmith too. I actually think Boston's coach might not that solid. Nesmith was way better under Stevens. I could see him rebounding with Finch.

[TaylorTag]

Marcus Smart makes sense as a successor to Beverley, but I don't want that contract that's about to kick in. If we are going to pay someone $15M plus, I would want to go after someone that is more of a complete player

Were paying bev $15

I wouldn't pay Beverley over $15M beyond this season either.

[TaylorTag]

What if it was Beasely and McLaughlin for Smart and Nesmith?

Celtics don't have a true PG on the roster. They also saw a lot of success with a small PG in Isaiah Thomas not too long ago, so I can see McLaughlin being an appealing asset? Beasely provides veteran shooting.

[Klomp]

FYI

The Celtics explored a possible deal that would’ve sent Josh Richardson and either Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith to the Timberwolves in exchange for Malik Beasley, according to Jared Weiss and Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic. Minnesota, right up against the tax and hoping to maintain roster flexibility for bigger deadline moves, wasn’t interested at the time, The Athletic’s duo says.

Marcus Smart‘s name has come up recently as a possible target for the Timberwolves, especially if they move Patrick Beverley in another deal, writes Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report. Weiss suggests the Celtics could probably move Smart for an expiring contract and a first-round pick right now if they wanted to, but adds that “there’s a lot more that goes into moving him beyond finding matching value.”

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The fact that all these pieces have been mentioned makes me think there's a little bit of steam to this. Classic case of counter offers being made. I know this is only media reporting, but often times there can be nuggets of truth in what media hears from sources.

Timberwolves want Marcus Smart ("come up recently as a possible target"). Probably opened up the talks asking about a straight Beverley for Smart exchange. Boston declined because they don't want Beverley ("especially if they move Patrick Beverley in another deal"), and instead offered Josh Richardson and either Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith for Beasley, which Minnesota declined ("wasn’t interested at the time").

Also keep in mind Minnesota fans, Krawczynski's name is attached to this, which increases the odds of truthfulness.

[Klomp]

I like Richardson...he is an above average 3 pt shooter, decent defender and his value currently doesn't too high. I remember few years back when Heat were looking to trade for Jimmy, he was the main piece in the trade that Heat were offering.

If we're swapping Beasley for him I'm all for it. Beasley is a more dangerous shooter, but Richardson does everything else better.

Richardson is also cheaper. I would like to take a look at Nesmith too. I actually think Boston's coach might not that solid. Nesmith was way better under Stevens. I could see him rebounding with Finch.

Cheaper currently, but I wouldn't be surprised if his next contract (in 2023) is at least as much money if not more.

[BlacJacMac]

Marcus Smart makes sense as a successor to Beverley, but I don't want that contract that's about to kick in. If we are going to pay someone $15M plus, I would want to go after someone that is more of a complete player

Were paying bev $15

I'm guessing his next contract will involve a paycut. Whereas we know Smart will average 19.2M over the next 4 years.

[Domejandro]

https://theathletic.com/3108028/2022/02/03/timberwolves-trade-manifesto-breaking-down-the-roster-as-trade-deadline-looms-2/?source=emp_shared_article

Can someone with an Athletic subscription give a brief bullet point on what this article says (if it says anything interesting or substantive)?

[minimus]

I'd definitely try to get DeVincenzo this summer. Also I hope Bolmaro will develop into such type of player.

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[Mattya]

https://theathletic.com/3108028/2022/02/03/timberwolves-trade-manifesto-breaking-down-the-roster-as-trade-deadline-looms-2/?source=emp_shared_article

Can someone with an Athletic subscription give a brief bullet point on what this article says (if it says anything interesting or substantive)?

I just saw some bullet point on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/timberwolves/comments/sjt5cz/the_trade_deadline_is_one_week_away_examining_the/hvgsvs0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

[Mattya]

Lots of very interest points.

[Klomp]

Naz Reid and Josh Okogie for PJ Washington?

Why for CHA? Two reasons, Center and defense. Charlotte is the only team with a winning record currently 20th or lower in defensive rating. They are 26th. Okogie could help this immediately. Naz Reid gives them a longer term center option. Mason Plumlee isn't it, and Washington shouldn't be getting center minutes.

Why for MIN? Get a little more beef behind Vanderbilt, and a guy who might be a more cost-effective option than Reid would be next year. Flexibility for bigger moves stays in place.

[life_saver]

Based on the Athletic article, it does seem like the team management values Jaden very highly...it's very unlikely he will be traded unless they get a huge return

[MN7725]

https://theathletic.com/3108028/2022/02/03/timberwolves-trade-manifesto-breaking-down-the-roster-as-trade-deadline-looms-2/?source=emp_shared_article

Can someone with an Athletic subscription give a brief bullet point on what this article says (if it says anything interesting or substantive)?

I just saw some bullet point on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/timberwolves/comments/sjt5cz/the_trade_deadline_is_one_week_away_examining_the/hvgsvs0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

thanks for link

The Wolves turning down Beas for Richardson/Nesmith (which might be for flexibility/financial reasons), and the Bev extension are the two actual insights, everything else pretty much common sense

[Klomp]

Another idea...

We've talked about the idea of Covington, and defensively he might be the closest fit outside of Simmons to the defensive versatility of McDaniels and Vanderbilt. That is one team that has talked about a center shakeup, which could mean a potential fit for someone like Reid.

Covington, 1st for Reid, Beasley?

[old school 34]

DO NOT TRADE Pat Beverly.

Whether Smart comes or not (he would be welcome IMHO), keep Bev because no one player has been more instrumental in changing the culture here. Keep him, as an assistant coach if necessary.

I like the Richardson/Langford for Beasley swap. Josh R. fits the current team needs more anyway.

I hope the Bev rumors are more about leveraging a good extension vs really needing to move.

I'd go back to the Beas deal with Boston....but here's my preferred wrinkle where we get some big help as well (see below where we send 2 of our 3 2nds to OKC).....thoughts?

4-way deal where...

OKC gets Satoransky & the 2--2nds

Bos gets Beasley

NOP gets Richardson/Naz/Kenny Hustle

Min gets Nesmith/Hayes/Muscala

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