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Trade Talk (Part Five)

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1641 » by ChiefKeith91 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:35 am

At this point there isn't a single move that would turn this team around. It would take at least 3 transactions in my opinion. If the Wolves are still a bottom 3 team at trade deadline I think you listen to offers for everyone at that point cause it's either get picks for Towns and Russell (full rebuild) or playoff push.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1642 » by Wolveswin » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:45 am

ChiefKeith91 wrote:At this point there isn't a single move that would turn this team around. It would take at least 3 transactions in my opinion. If the Wolves are still a bottom 3 team at trade deadline I think you listen to offers for everyone at that point cause it's either get picks for Towns and Russell (full rebuild) or playoff push.

Problem is Wolves don’t have anything of value. Or anything they wouldn’t be trading while receiving pennies on the dollar.

Edwards has depreciated way more than normal rookie driven off the lot. A questionable pick to begin with, has seen his value plummet.

Culver might be in the worth only a 2nd territory — and make him more valuable to us than anyone else.

Rubio will fetch less than Wolves paid.

Towns is the only asset of value. And even he needs to come back healthy and prove himself.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1643 » by Note30 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:38 am

Towns to PHX for Ayton, Crowder, Saric, 3 1sts, 3 pick swaps

Russell to SAC for Hield and 2 FRPS + 3 pick swaps

Beasley to Grizzlies for Dieng + 2 FRP’s

Rubio / JMac
Hield / Culver
Edwards /Okogie
Crowder / Saric
Ayton/ Reid / Dieng


Wolves net 7 picks and 8 pick swaps and still have assets to trade.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1644 » by Merc_Porto » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:46 am

Note30 wrote:Towns to PHX for Ayton, Crowder, Saric, 3 1sts, 3 pick swaps

Russell to SAC for Hield and 2 FRPS + 3 pick swaps

Beasley to Grizzlies for Dieng + 2 FRP’s

Rubio / JMac
Hield / Culver
Edwards /Okogie
Crowder / Saric
Ayton/ Reid / Dieng


Wolves net 7 picks and 8 pick swaps and still have assets to trade.



Who the hell is going to give 2FRP + 3 pick swaps for Dlo?

And btw... Hield > Dlo

The Phoenix one utleast get one of Cam or Bridges.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1645 » by Neeva » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:47 am

Need to trade towns to the warriors not Phoenix.
Wiseman and wolves pick back>>>ayton and late picks.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1646 » by Note30 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:56 am

mercgold3 wrote:
Note30 wrote:Towns to PHX for Ayton, Crowder, Saric, 3 1sts, 3 pick swaps

Russell to SAC for Hield and 2 FRPS + 3 pick swaps

Beasley to Grizzlies for Dieng + 2 FRP’s

Rubio / JMac
Hield / Culver
Edwards /Okogie
Crowder / Saric
Ayton/ Reid / Dieng


Wolves net 7 picks and 8 pick swaps and still have assets to trade.



Who the hell is going to give 2FRP + 3 pick swaps for Dlo?

And btw... Hield > Dlo

The Phoenix one utleast get one of Cam or Bridges.


DLo is worth way more than Hield. Dude couldn't even get the start in SAC again till this year and his overall FG is not great. Maybe not 2FPR + the swaps but we could atleast get 2 FRP from SAC.

You are nuts if you think Hield is better than DLo. '

We could get Johnson or Bridges but with Culver, Okogie, and Edwards, we are stocked on the wings. Figured we'd populate the area where we don't have anything valuable at PF.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1647 » by MN7725 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:03 am

Wolveswin wrote:Tank and rebuild plus a little history of repeating itself with Boston — who could be very motivated to join the arms race in East...

Jazz: Conley
FOR
Walker

Warriors: Oubre Jr. + Wiseman + 2021 Wolves 1st
FOR
Brown + Williams + 2021 Celtics 1st

Celtics: Brown + Walker + Williams + 3 or 4 1sts and Swaps
FOR
Towns + Russell + Layman

Wolves: Towns + Russell + Layman
FOR
Wiseman + Conley (expiring) + Oubre (expiring) + 2021 Wolves 1st (returned) + 2-3 Celtics 1sts and Swaps

Jazz get PG upgrade. Maybe they add assets.

Warriors get a huge SG/SF upgrade who fits perfect with Wiggins, keep youth big, and a 1st.

Celtics get Towns and play Russell next to Smart in starting lineup.

Wolves get Wiseman and their 1st back plus the usual bunch of 1sts for their superstar to Boston yet again.


Brown at this point is likely considered more valuable than KAT, he's improved so much year to year

Two-way wing that can create

And Brown has played well in 60+ playoff games while KAT was embarrassed in his one series, a team like Boston that's a semi-final team at least is going to weigh that more than regular season
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1648 » by Domejandro » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:16 am

Ricky Rubio

for

Spencer Dinwiddie, Nicolas Claxton, Bruce Bowen, and two seconds.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1649 » by Note30 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:23 am

Domejandro wrote:Ricky Rubio

for

Spencer Dinwiddie, Nicolas Claxton, Bruce Bowen, and two seconds.


Ricky Rubio + Malik Beasely + Okogie
for Lonzo Ball, JJ Reddick, and Eric Bledsoe + 1 FRP + 1 pick swap

Ball / Bledsoe
DLo / Reddick
Culver / Edwards

Same problem, just more expirings and more vets
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1650 » by Merc_Porto » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:04 pm

Note30 wrote:
DLo is worth way more than Hield. Dude couldn't even get the start in SAC again till this year and his overall FG is not great. Maybe not 2FPR + the swaps but we could atleast get 2 FRP from SAC.

You are nuts if you think Hield is better than DLo. '

We could get Johnson or Bridges but with Culver, Okogie, and Edwards, we are stocked on the wings. Figured we'd populate the area where we don't have anything valuable at PF.


They both have negative value. Nobody is going to give anything positive to get Dlo.
And why Sacramento would want Dlo when they have Fox and Haliburton?

Hield with Rubio would be fantastic duo thought. And yes, i take the shooting ability of Hield over what the hell Dlo offers.

Cam Johnson is more like a power forward.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1651 » by ChiefKeith91 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:21 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
Note30 wrote:
DLo is worth way more than Hield. Dude couldn't even get the start in SAC again till this year and his overall FG is not great. Maybe not 2FPR + the swaps but we could atleast get 2 FRP from SAC.

You are nuts if you think Hield is better than DLo. '

We could get Johnson or Bridges but with Culver, Okogie, and Edwards, we are stocked on the wings. Figured we'd populate the area where we don't have anything valuable at PF.


They both have negative value. Nobody is going to give anything positive to get Dlo.
And why Sacramento would want Dlo when they have Fox and Haliburton?

Hield with Rubio would be fantastic duo thought. And yes, i take the shooting ability of Hield over what the hell Dlo offers.

Cam Johnson is more like a power forward.


Rubio & Hield back court would be the worse backcourt in the league. One can't shoot and the other is simply a C&S. Hield isn't a better shooter or player than Dlo.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1652 » by Jedzz » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:24 pm

Note30 wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Ricky Rubio

for

Spencer Dinwiddie, Nicolas Claxton, Bruce Bowen, and two seconds.


Ricky Rubio + Malik Beasely + Okogie
for Lonzo Ball, JJ Reddick, and Eric Bledsoe + 1 FRP + 1 pick swap

Ball / Bledsoe
DLo / Reddick
Culver / Edwards

Same problem, just more expirings and more vets


wtf. I thought Reddick retired when I was born. And why tf are we stuck with Culver and Edwards? So annoyed with this lately in posts. I don't feel like the team should be carrying all these guys for 4 years to see if they ever realize full potential before trading them. Can't carry 5-6 projects every year unless they are in the Gleague developing. The team just can't support all their minutes.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1653 » by Merc_Porto » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:27 pm

ChiefKeith91 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Note30 wrote:
DLo is worth way more than Hield. Dude couldn't even get the start in SAC again till this year and his overall FG is not great. Maybe not 2FPR + the swaps but we could atleast get 2 FRP from SAC.

You are nuts if you think Hield is better than DLo. '

We could get Johnson or Bridges but with Culver, Okogie, and Edwards, we are stocked on the wings. Figured we'd populate the area where we don't have anything valuable at PF.


They both have negative value. Nobody is going to give anything positive to get Dlo.
And why Sacramento would want Dlo when they have Fox and Haliburton?

Hield with Rubio would be fantastic duo thought. And yes, i take the shooting ability of Hield over what the hell Dlo offers.

Cam Johnson is more like a power forward.


Rubio & Hield back court would be the worse backcourt in the league. One can't shoot and the other is simply a C&S. Hield isn't a better shooter or player than Dlo.


Hes a better shooter for sure. Actually, one of the best in the league in that matter. And with Rubio playmaking i think would be a great duo. Better than Dlo and Beasley.

But that is not the point. Nobody is going to give a FRP (leave alone 2FRP) to get Dlo.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1654 » by Jedzz » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:35 pm

Domejandro wrote:Ricky Rubio

for

Spencer Dinwiddie, Nicolas Claxton, Bruce Bowen, and two seconds.


I think this is being kind to Rubio, maybe, maybe not. Dinwiddie is going to be out rehabbing that knee so he won't add to the guard logjam right now anyway.

I don't know anything about Claxton (C) other than he hasn't shown much yet.

Bowen is the type of player this team needs. However he's got 13 seasons in (actually a 1993 throwback). Can he still play or is this more filler and ultimately cap relief?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1655 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:40 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
Note30 wrote:Towns to PHX for Ayton, Crowder, Saric, 3 1sts, 3 pick swaps

Russell to SAC for Hield and 2 FRPS + 3 pick swaps

Beasley to Grizzlies for Dieng + 2 FRP’s

Rubio / JMac
Hield / Culver
Edwards /Okogie
Crowder / Saric
Ayton/ Reid / Dieng


Wolves net 7 picks and 8 pick swaps and still have assets to trade.



Who the hell is going to give 2FRP + 3 pick swaps for Dlo?

And btw... Hield > Dlo

The Phoenix one utleast get one of Cam or Bridges.



Dlo does not have this kind of value. Only reason gsw got what they did was because Rosa's was desperate to bring in kats bff.

Id much rather have Hield, and id think most NBA teams would too.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1656 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:34 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:
Note30 wrote:Towns to PHX for Ayton, Crowder, Saric, 3 1sts, 3 pick swaps

Russell to SAC for Hield and 2 FRPS + 3 pick swaps

Beasley to Grizzlies for Dieng + 2 FRP’s

Rubio / JMac
Hield / Culver
Edwards /Okogie
Crowder / Saric
Ayton/ Reid / Dieng


Wolves net 7 picks and 8 pick swaps and still have assets to trade.



Who the hell is going to give 2FRP + 3 pick swaps for Dlo?

And btw... Hield > Dlo

The Phoenix one utleast get one of Cam or Bridges.



Dlo does not have this kind of value. Only reason gsw got what they did was because Rosa's was desperate to bring in kats bff.

Id much rather have Hield, and id think most NBA teams would too.

Nah, Hield has regressed badly. Russell >>> Hield.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1657 » by Neeva » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:56 pm

Nets might want dlo back?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1658 » by Calinks » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:14 pm

Just heard a podcast where they said this off-season we tried to trade for Aaron Gordon and Larry Nance Jr. and other PF's, couldn't get a deal. Then in free agency, they went for Milsap, Jae Crowder, Jaymichal Green, Derrick Jones Jr., we couldn't make a deal with any of them.

We tried to go hard and flopped for a 4.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1659 » by Jedzz » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:21 pm

Calinks wrote:Just heard a podcast where they said this off-season we tried to trade for Aaron Gordon and Larry Nance Jr. and other PF's, couldn't get a deal. Then in free agency, they went for Milsap, Jae Crowder, Jaymichal Green, Derrick Jones Jr., we couldn't make a deal with any of them.

We tried to go hard and flopped for a 4.


Figures they would throw DJJ into that conversation just like some here do...with the 4. What a joke.

DJJ SG/SF
6'6 210 lbs.

They weren't solving any PF issue with him. That was another shot at another midrange wing. Rosas would have stacked another one on top if they could have gotten him.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1660 » by Calinks » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:01 pm

Jedzz wrote:
Calinks wrote:Just heard a podcast where they said this off-season we tried to trade for Aaron Gordon and Larry Nance Jr. and other PF's, couldn't get a deal. Then in free agency, they went for Milsap, Jae Crowder, Jaymichal Green, Derrick Jones Jr., we couldn't make a deal with any of them.

We tried to go hard and flopped for a 4.


Figures they would throw DJJ into that conversation just like some here do...with the 4. What a joke.

DJJ SG/SF
6'6 210 lbs.

They weren't solving any PF issue with him. That was another shot at another midrange wing. Rosas would have stacked another one on top if they could have gotten him.

That could be my fault. They didn't specifically mention him in the PF talk, it was just a guy I remembered us pursuing during that period of time.
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