Butler has requested a trade (Part II)

Howard Cosell · Post #1661 » by **Howard Cosell** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:22 am

Per Source (H)

Twolves have not received an offer from Miami which includes all 3.

1) Young Player = starter
2) FRP
3) Unload Dieng

Miami Heat offers have only included Richardson, which fulfills (1) and FRP (2), but they have not offered to take Dieng unless it’s a 3rd team which Miami would not give Twolves FRP.

No Heat offer has satisfied all 3 minimal conditions Thibs & Taylor have agreed upon internally.

*Thibs & Taylor are not in disagreement.
*Richardson has been offered in at least 2 different trade scenarios.

BigSleep333 · Post #1662 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:25 am

did you guys hear anything better than covington+fultz for butler?

papajoe · Post #1663 » by **papajoe** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:28 am

I'd do fultz+covington for butler.

miwolvesfan · Post #1664 » by **miwolvesfan** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:30 am

So apparently no trade tonight. At some point if we refuse to deal with any team in the West (Houston, La Clippers), we are going to have to take Miami's best offer. I can't believe Riley will let half his team continue to be in trade rumors another week.

miwolvesfan · Post #1665 » by **miwolvesfan** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:32 am

One of the Heat insiders thinks current deal on the table is Richards, First Round Pick plus Dion Waiters.

miwolvesfan · Post #1666 » by **miwolvesfan** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:33 am

Waiters is owed 3 years 36 million but averaged 14 points a game last year. He is apparently hurt/out of shape right now.

Post #1667 » by **Klomp** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:34 am

kobewade11 wrote:You said Hassan/Richardson a week ago. Then Dion/Richardson. You dont have a clue.

Do you know how negotiations work? These things are fluid.

theGreatRC · Post #1668 » by **theGreatRC** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:35 am

Worm Guts wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:Richardson + Whiteside would be a great trade for us.

Don't overthink it Glen; take your meds and pull the trigger on a deal for a man who's going to walk anyway

Let’s not get carried away with terms like “great”

It's great given the circumstances we're in. If Eric Gordon & PJ Tucker are our competing offers, then the Heat package is gold.

If we're talking straight value, we're losers of the trade because we're giving up the best player

SO_MONEY · Post #1669 » by **SO_MONEY** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:38 am

miwolvesfan wrote:So apparently no trade tonight. At some point if we refuse to deal with any team in the West (Houston, La Clippers), we are going to have to take Miami's best offer. I can't believe Riley will let half his team continue to be in trade rumors another week.

We don't have to do anything.

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BigSleep333 · Post #1670 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:41 am

SO_MONEY wrote:
miwolvesfan wrote:So apparently no trade tonight. At some point if we refuse to deal with any team in the West (Houston, La Clippers), we are going to have to take Miami's best offer. I can't believe Riley will let half his team continue to be in trade rumors another week.
We don't have to do anything.

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you dont have to do anything, but it wouldnt be very smart. take the best you can or you get nada.

SO_MONEY · Post #1671 » by **SO_MONEY** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:52 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
miwolvesfan wrote:So apparently no trade tonight. At some point if we refuse to deal with any team in the West (Houston, La Clippers), we are going to have to take Miami's best offer. I can't believe Riley will let half his team continue to be in trade rumors another week.
We don't have to do anything.

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you dont have to do anything, but it wouldnt be very smart. take the best you can or you get nada.

Nada might be the best offer.

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BigSleep333 · Post #1672 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:54 am

SO_MONEY wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:We don't have to do anything.

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you dont have to do anything, but it wouldnt be very smart. take the best you can or you get nada.
Nada might be the best offer.

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so you dont like covington+fultz? one is on an all defense team, the other the #1 pick a year ago. thats a pretty steep nada

Rapaz · Post #1673 » by **Rapaz** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:07 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
you dont have to do anything, but it wouldnt be very smart. take the best you can or you get nada.
Nada might be the best offer.

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so you dont like covington+fultz? one is on an all defense team, the other the #1 pick a year ago. thats a pretty steep nada

That's a solid deal if you facilitate dumping Dieng as well. The Wolves get an above-average defender, a young player with some promise (though extremely high bust potential), and unload a toxic contract.

jpatrick · Post #1674 » by **jpatrick** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:10 am

Where has it been reported Fultz/RoCo have been offered? That’d be something I’d definitely do.

SO_MONEY · Post #1675 » by **SO_MONEY** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:13 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
you dont have to do anything, but it wouldnt be very smart. take the best you can or you get nada.
Nada might be the best offer.

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so you dont like covington+fultz? one is on an all defense team, the other the #1 pick a year ago. thats a pretty steep nada

I personally, don't love the deal, and I don't think that is an option at the moment. I also think a heat deal could be better and I am not high on thoes rumors at the moment either.

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twix2500 · Post #1676 » by **twix2500** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:14 am

So apparantly the Heat and Wolves made their final offer Sunday. That was the deadline, that is what prompt Jimmy peeps to have a final sit down with Thibs monday. Yesterday Miami went ahead as if Butler is not gonna be traded and begin writing up Winslow extension. It appears Wolves are gonna try to pin Butler in a corner and force him to play.

BigSleep333 · Post #1677 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:15 am

Rapaz wrote:
BigSleep333 wrote:
SO_MONEY wrote:Nada might be the best offer.

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so you dont like covington+fultz? one is on an all defense team, the other the #1 pick a year ago. thats a pretty steep nada

That's a solid deal if you facilitate dumping Dieng as well. The Wolves get an above-average defender, a young player with some promise (though extremely high bust potential), and unload a toxic contract.

phi19 to the kings would be ok for me..

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9h9e235

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1678 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:19 am

twix2500 wrote:So apparantly the Heat and Wolves made their final offer Sunday. That was the deadline, that is what prompt Jimmy peeps to have a final sit down with Thibs monday. Yesterday Miami went ahead as if Butler is not gonna be traded and begin writing up Winslow extension. It appears Wolves are gonna try to pin Butler in a corner and force him to play.

Considering miami's final offer was likely, Richardson, a protected first, and waiters, jimmy can sit at home and make his presence felt on instagram rather than on a basketball court.

If he refuses to play, than let him wait out free agency for another year.
If he pretends to be hurt, stay away from the team and watch everyone else play while you stew.

No reason for Thibs and company to succumb to these demands, especially when the offers are so crap.

KGdaBom · Post #1679 » by **KGdaBom** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:19 am

walk with me wrote:Yessss. Love it. From lotto to 3rd place. See you in a week jimmy

We can hope.

BigSleep333 · Post #1680 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:20 am

jpatrick wrote:Where has it been reported Fultz/RoCo have been offered? That’d be something I’d definitely do.

its not reported anywhere, its was just a question if anything that was reported is better than this offer. philly called the wolves after butlers request, so i def think at least covington was on the table. i heard wolves were asking for simmons and of course, elton brand hangs up the phone laughing