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Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

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Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick?

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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1681 » by TRKO » Wed Jun 3, 2015 10:35 pm

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Calinks wrote:Watched the Towns shooting vid. Really impressive. To me this screams the kind of big you want going forward. Now this is just speculation on my part, but I would guess that even his body type is superior to Okafor's because he is the long, lanky kind of big that seems to have a bod that can hold up a lot better than Okafor's slightly more bulkier build. I really think he is the way to go for many reasons the fact that he may be more durable is another one. As I have said before, I have had my fill of Bigs who cant defend and bigs who are great in the low post, I love post guys, I really do, but I don't think you build a team around them anymore, especially if they dont bring defense.

Okafor actually had the bigger wingspan and standing reach numbers.


I don't think you're correct. 2014 Hoops Summit measurements (so done at the same place/time):

Okafor: 6'10.75" tall 9'2.5" reach
Towns: 7' tall 9'5" reach

I know Towns had a lower reach at the UK day, but I believe it was either a mismeasurement or he tanked it to increase his vertical jump number. I think that for two reasons, I've watched quite a few Okafor and Towns games the past two weeks, and Towns looks like he has a higher reach. Further, I don't think Towns has the 37" vertical he recorded at the UK day, which is about the same as WCS. Using his Hoops Summit reach measurement, he would have recorded a 33" vertical, which from watching him, seems more accurate.

I was just going off those UK pro day measurements. Okafor does have the bigger wingspan. I don't think either has an arm length advantage.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1682 » by Takingbaconback » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:01 pm

Towns definitely uses his length much better than okafor, reminds me a bit of how andrew bynum used to play with his length
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1683 » by mondry » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:12 pm

I think Towns and Russell both interview well, I'd give the nod to Towns though. Just regurgitating "I'm the best player in the draft" doesn't really do it for me when it's pretty clear he's at best 2nd, but probably 3rd BPA. Russell just seems to "flow" through the things he's pre-rehearsed where I feel like towns is literally just speaking his mind and he seems more real to me.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1684 » by Mattya » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:21 pm

mondry wrote:I think Towns and Russell both interview well, I'd give the nod to Towns though. Just regurgitating "I'm the best player in the draft" doesn't really do it for me when it's pretty clear he's at best 2nd, but probably 3rd BPA. Russell just seems to "flow" through the things he's pre-rehearsed where I feel like towns is literally just speaking his mind and he seems more real to me.


Completely opposite for me. Russell isn't just regurgitating "i'm the best player in the draft" he is correcting people when they say he "thinks he is the best player in the draft," to "I know I'm the best player in the draft." That isn't a rehearsed reaction. Towns on the other hand seems much more pre-reheared when he repeats I just want to be a part of the "greatest fraternity in the world." Neither is a bad interview, before someone tries to make that claim, I just think Russell is just better.
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Post#1685 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:21 pm

what if Flip found takers for Rubio that could net you WCS...wouldn't taking Russell give Minn the best route to replicating what GSW is doing? Russell/Lavine/Wiggins with WCS can all switch on all screen and role. IF everyone plays up to their potential its is as close as you can get to curry/Thompson/barnes
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1686 » by Mattya » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:25 pm

LApwnd wrote:what if Flip found takers for Rubio that could net you WCS...wouldn't taking Russell give Minn the best route to replicating what GSW is doing? Russell/Lavine/Wiggins with WCS can all switch on all screen and role. IF everyone plays up to their potential its is as close as you can get to curry/Thompson/barnes


I would still rather draft Towns and WCS and look for a point guard in FA next year or later.
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Post#1687 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:30 pm

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LApwnd wrote:what if Flip found takers for Rubio that could net you WCS...wouldn't taking Russell give Minn the best route to replicating what GSW is doing? Russell/Lavine/Wiggins with WCS can all switch on all screen and role. IF everyone plays up to their potential its is as close as you can get to curry/Thompson/barnes


I would still rather draft Towns and WCS and look for a point guard in FA next year or later.


understandable but there's is no FA pg that you could get that has Curry like potential, maybe next years draft but not in FA.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1688 » by Mattya » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:34 pm

LApwnd wrote:
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LApwnd wrote:what if Flip found takers for Rubio that could net you WCS...wouldn't taking Russell give Minn the best route to replicating what GSW is doing? Russell/Lavine/Wiggins with WCS can all switch on all screen and role. IF everyone plays up to their potential its is as close as you can get to curry/Thompson/barnes


I would still rather draft Towns and WCS and look for a point guard in FA next year or later.


understandable but there's is no FA pg that you could get that has Curry like potential, maybe next years draft but not in FA.


I don't think Russell has Curry potential either though. I'm not sure they need anyone with that much potential at PG with the rest of the talent they have.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1689 » by m2002brian » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:22 am

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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1690 » by eroomlladnar » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:23 am

Still Towns.

Seen nothing in the past two weeks that would change my mind.

Can't wait for Flip to help us remain the laughingstock of the NBA though...
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1691 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:26 am

mercgold3 wrote:Karl-Anthony Towns 2015 NBA Draft Workout Video - Shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWjSHa5Vgs8

Karl-Anthony Towns 2015 NBA Draft Workout Video - Dunks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5HxjDmyGU

Those videos are private , but they work through the links, i think.


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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1692 » by m2002brian » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:40 am

eroomlladnar wrote:Still Towns.

Seen nothing in the past two weeks that would change my mind.

Can't wait for Flip to help us remain the laughingstock of the NBA though...



Flip has always come across to me as someone who thinks he's super sly. Somehow even with the number one pick I think he is still trying to be sly about who he is picking. Maybe he is somehow trying to get some "leverage" by stating he wants the third best players available.

If Flip picks players that fit his system instead of getting the player that fits his team better. That will only go to show we have another Adelman situation where a coach is unable to change their system to maximize it's players.

Secondly, to say you should take the best player available is like saying I should choose the best food on the menu. It's all personal preference. In basketball it's a personnel preference. I think the statement should be: pick the best player available FOR YOUR TEAM. We all know who that is even if somehow fancy footwork has you hypnotized. BTW Tim Duncan was a SENIOR when he was drafted, I'm sure if you give DownTowns a few more years his post game will only improve. Not saying he'll be Tim Duncan, but he'll be closer than the other guy people keep comparing TD to.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1693 » by TRKO » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:48 am

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eroomlladnar wrote:Still Towns.

Seen nothing in the past two weeks that would change my mind.

Can't wait for Flip to help us remain the laughingstock of the NBA though...



Flip has always come across to me as someone who thinks he's super sly. Somehow even with the number one pick I think he is still trying to be sly about who he is picking. Maybe he is somehow trying to get some "leverage" by stating he wants the third best players available.

If Flip picks players that fit his system instead of getting the player that fits his team better. That will only go to show we have another Adelman situation where a coach is unable to change their system to maximize it's players.

Secondly, to say you should take the best player available is like saying I should choose the best food on the menu. It's all personal preference. In basketball it's a personnel preference. I think the statement should be: pick the best player available FOR YOUR TEAM. We all know who that is even if somehow fancy footwork has you hypnotized. BTW Tim Duncan was a SENIOR when he was drafted, I'm sure if you give DownTowns a few more years his post game will only improve. Not saying he'll be Tim Duncan, but he'll be closer than the other guy people keep comparing TD to.

While Towns may be able to greatly improve his post game over time, post ability is a skill that isn't always easily acquired. Howard who is a super athlete could never develop a great post game.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1694 » by eroomlladnar » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:50 am

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m2002brian wrote:
eroomlladnar wrote:Still Towns.

Seen nothing in the past two weeks that would change my mind.

Can't wait for Flip to help us remain the laughingstock of the NBA though...



Flip has always come across to me as someone who thinks he's super sly. Somehow even with the number one pick I think he is still trying to be sly about who he is picking. Maybe he is somehow trying to get some "leverage" by stating he wants the third best players available.

If Flip picks players that fit his system instead of getting the player that fits his team better. That will only go to show we have another Adelman situation where a coach is unable to change their system to maximize it's players.

Secondly, to say you should take the best player available is like saying I should choose the best food on the menu. It's all personal preference. In basketball it's a personnel preference. I think the statement should be: pick the best player available FOR YOUR TEAM. We all know who that is even if somehow fancy footwork has you hypnotized. BTW Tim Duncan was a SENIOR when he was drafted, I'm sure if you give DownTowns a few more years his post game will only improve. Not saying he'll be Tim Duncan, but he'll be closer than the other guy people keep comparing TD to.

While Towns may be able to greatly improve his post game over time, post ability is a skill that isn't always easily acquired. Howard who is a super athlete could never develop a great post game.


Because he never tried to. He just thought he could out-athlete everyone.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1695 » by Mattya » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:52 am

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TRKO wrote:
m2002brian wrote:

Flip has always come across to me as someone who thinks he's super sly. Somehow even with the number one pick I think he is still trying to be sly about who he is picking. Maybe he is somehow trying to get some "leverage" by stating he wants the third best players available.

If Flip picks players that fit his system instead of getting the player that fits his team better. That will only go to show we have another Adelman situation where a coach is unable to change their system to maximize it's players.

Secondly, to say you should take the best player available is like saying I should choose the best food on the menu. It's all personal preference. In basketball it's a personnel preference. I think the statement should be: pick the best player available FOR YOUR TEAM. We all know who that is even if somehow fancy footwork has you hypnotized. BTW Tim Duncan was a SENIOR when he was drafted, I'm sure if you give DownTowns a few more years his post game will only improve. Not saying he'll be Tim Duncan, but he'll be closer than the other guy people keep comparing TD to.

While Towns may be able to greatly improve his post game over time, post ability is a skill that isn't always easily acquired. Howard who is a super athlete could never develop a great post game.


Because he never tried to. He just thought he could out-athlete everyone.


Howard has been working with Olajuwon for years now and still barely has any post game.
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1696 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Jun 4, 2015 1:54 am

eroomlladnar wrote:
TRKO wrote:
m2002brian wrote:

Flip has always come across to me as someone who thinks he's super sly. Somehow even with the number one pick I think he is still trying to be sly about who he is picking. Maybe he is somehow trying to get some "leverage" by stating he wants the third best players available.

If Flip picks players that fit his system instead of getting the player that fits his team better. That will only go to show we have another Adelman situation where a coach is unable to change their system to maximize it's players.

Secondly, to say you should take the best player available is like saying I should choose the best food on the menu. It's all personal preference. In basketball it's a personnel preference. I think the statement should be: pick the best player available FOR YOUR TEAM. We all know who that is even if somehow fancy footwork has you hypnotized. BTW Tim Duncan was a SENIOR when he was drafted, I'm sure if you give DownTowns a few more years his post game will only improve. Not saying he'll be Tim Duncan, but he'll be closer than the other guy people keep comparing TD to.

While Towns may be able to greatly improve his post game over time, post ability is a skill that isn't always easily acquired. Howard who is a super athlete could never develop a great post game.


Because he never tried to. He just thought he could out-athlete everyone.


He's tried every year. He's had private tutoring from the Dream. Ewing, Jabbar etc..

Not everyone develops the feel for the game; it's innate.

Wiggs for example has a great feel in the post and his signature spin move. He just knows when to use it instinctively and thats why its a thing of beauty when he crams it in traffic off that spin.

People can try to copy the move, but they cant copy the timing.
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Post#1697 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Jun 4, 2015 2:00 am

Worm Guts wrote:Somebody forgot the chair.


What that means ?
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Re: Poll: Who should the Wolves take with the #1 overall pick? 

Post#1698 » by FargoWolf » Thu Jun 4, 2015 2:06 am

TRKO wrote:
m2002brian wrote:
eroomlladnar wrote:Still Towns.

Seen nothing in the past two weeks that would change my mind.

Can't wait for Flip to help us remain the laughingstock of the NBA though...



Flip has always come across to me as someone who thinks he's super sly. Somehow even with the number one pick I think he is still trying to be sly about who he is picking. Maybe he is somehow trying to get some "leverage" by stating he wants the third best players available.

If Flip picks players that fit his system instead of getting the player that fits his team better. That will only go to show we have another Adelman situation where a coach is unable to change their system to maximize it's players.

Secondly, to say you should take the best player available is like saying I should choose the best food on the menu. It's all personal preference. In basketball it's a personnel preference. I think the statement should be: pick the best player available FOR YOUR TEAM. We all know who that is even if somehow fancy footwork has you hypnotized. BTW Tim Duncan was a SENIOR when he was drafted, I'm sure if you give DownTowns a few more years his post game will only improve. Not saying he'll be Tim Duncan, but he'll be closer than the other guy people keep comparing TD to.

While Towns may be able to greatly improve his post game over time, post ability is a skill that isn't always easily acquired. Howard who is a super athlete could never develop a great post game.


Towns though developed a ton as a post player in just one year of college basketball. It is basically why almost everyone thinks he should be #1, he took a questionable part of his game and made into a strength.

That is why he is by far and away the guy I want, I think KG will be an amazing influence on him and he will soak it all up. People say KG won't let Okafor get away with loafing on defense, well I think Towns will run through walls for KG. He will want to learn how to defend like KG and he will probably drive KG nuts asking him about why does this or that.
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Post#1699 » by TRKO » Thu Jun 4, 2015 2:17 am

Name the skill that Towns showed in game last year at Kentucky that sold you on him or screamed elite? Is it his shot blocking, post game, athleticism, ect what is the one thing that is elite or draws you to Towns.
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Post#1700 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Jun 4, 2015 2:32 am

Okafor elite post game isnt exactly a must need in the modern NBA.

We are not talking about only fit.

Okafor is a huge risk at #1 because if he fails to improve defensively he is going to be another C in the NBA that nobody Appreciate.

Even if he avg 20 PPG.

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