Trade Ideas thread

[MN7725]

Boston fan coming in peace.

Would you all do

Minny gets: A. Bradley, J. Crowder, D. Jackson, 2019 second round pick (via Detroit)

Boston gets: G. Dieng, 2018 first round pick (via OKC lotto-protected)

You get guys perfect for Thibs's system in Avery and Jae. You lose Dieng who (I may be presumptuous here) isn't as necessary now with Taj Gibson.

What's the fanbase's sense of Dieng's value?

That is a no brainer, frankly I think Bos could do better

Would that even save Bos any $?

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

He's a good player but his best position is the same as KAT, so hes probably more valuable on another team
Sort of like how Rubio is more valuable on a team that doesn't have a ball dominant wing like Butler

I am very curious to whether Dieng can do what similarly excellent mid-range shooters M Gasol and B Lopez were able to do last year and extend his range so that he can shoot 3s for volume

That would be a game changer

[Neeva]

Boston fan coming in peace.

Would you all do

Minny gets: A. Bradley, J. Crowder, D. Jackson, 2019 second round pick (via Detroit)

Boston gets: G. Dieng, 2018 first round pick (via OKC lotto-protected)

You get guys perfect for Thibs's system in Avery and Jae. You lose Dieng who (I may be presumptuous here) isn't as necessary now with Taj Gibson.

What's the fanbase's sense of Dieng's value?

That is a no brainer, frankly I think Bos could do better

Would that even save Bos any $?

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

When Dieng is on he can give you 20 points/ 10 rebounds easy, but he disappears some games, maybe he can do more in Steven's system?

[minimus]

When Dieng is on he can give you 20 points/ 10 rebounds easy, but he disappears some games, maybe he can do more in Steven's system?

It is more about matchup, also he has been often 3rd or even 4th option in offense.

[Peezo]

Boston fan coming in peace.

Would you all do

Minny gets: A. Bradley, J. Crowder, D. Jackson, 2019 second round pick (via Detroit)

Boston gets: G. Dieng, 2018 first round pick (via OKC lotto-protected)

You get guys perfect for Thibs's system in Avery and Jae. You lose Dieng who (I may be presumptuous here) isn't as necessary now with Taj Gibson.

What's the fanbase's sense of Dieng's value?

That is a no brainer, frankly I think Bos could do better

Would that even save Bos any $?

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

The wolves would be all over that, even with amickey (who some people are hoping we will snag if you all bought him out/waived him).

[MN7725]

When Dieng is on he can give you 20 points/ 10 rebounds easy, but he disappears some games, maybe he can do more in Steven's system?

It is more about matchup, also he has been often 3rd or even 4th option in offense.

Definitely

Dieng to his credit doesn't force anything, takes what the D is giving

If there doubling hard on KAT or others and he's getting open mid range shots or drives to the basket, he'll be aggressive

If there playing everybody pretty much straight up, he'll move the ball instead

[Peezo]

And I think you will find the value on G somewhat split. Many people would be OK moving him now that we have Taj, but some of us do you still like him as a starter. Regardless of how we value him, I think most people would accept the trade you proposed with relative quickness.

[Neeva]

And I think you will find the value on G somewhat split. Many people would be OK moving him now that we have Taj, but some of us do you still like him as a starter. Regardless of how we value him, I think most people would accept the trade you proposed with relative quickness.

Yep cause as much as Dieng will help the team and his loss wold hurt the front court, we need the shooting of Bradley/Crowder to bolster the bench much more.

[C-Dub47]

Yeah, I'd like to see us keep Dieng, but that deal provides some much needed help in some key areas so its hard to pass on that. Think it'd make sense for both teams.

[minimus]

When Dieng is on he can give you 20 points/ 10 rebounds easy, but he disappears some games, maybe he can do more in Steven's system?

It is more about matchup, also he has been often 3rd or even 4th option in offense.

Definitely

Dieng to his credit doesn't force anything, takes what the D is giving

If there doubling hard on KAT or others and he's getting open mid range shots or drives to the basket, he'll be aggressive

If there playing everybody pretty much straight up, he'll move the ball instead

Yes, that is why I see why G can thrive playing unselfish basketball based on smart ball movement in BOS

[moss_is_1]

Boston fan coming in peace.

Would you all do

Minny gets: A. Bradley, J. Crowder, D. Jackson, 2019 second round pick (via Detroit)

Boston gets: G. Dieng, 2018 first round pick (via OKC lotto-protected)

You get guys perfect for Thibs's system in Avery and Jae. You lose Dieng who (I may be presumptuous here) isn't as necessary now with Taj Gibson.

What's the fanbase's sense of Dieng's value?

Hell yes. That trade would be amazing for us. Then we could trade and flip Bradley if we fear he'll cost too much this summer. Sign a big that should be discounted now, or let Cole recoup some value.

[GopherIt!]

I like Gorgui but have no wing depth though so I would definitely do this.

Thibs loves Gorgui, would be interesting to see if he'd be willing to move him.

[Streakers33]

What does the Boston board say about this trade?


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[shrink]

Boston fan coming in peace.

Would you all do

Minny gets: A. Bradley, J. Crowder, D. Jackson, 2019 second round pick (via Detroit)

Boston gets: G. Dieng, 2018 first round pick (via OKC lotto-protected)

You get guys perfect for Thibs's system in Avery and Jae. You lose Dieng who (I may be presumptuous here) isn't as necessary now with Taj Gibson.

What's the fanbase's sense of Dieng's value?

That is a no brainer, frankly I think Bos could do better

Would that even save Bos any $?

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

A Wolves fan suggested a similar trade, but we didn't broach the subject. I think that Dieng gets under-rated.

First, let me say that I think Dieng would be a great fit with the Celtics. While I know Horford primarily plays center these days, Dieng would help him play either position, and he has experience playing next to a guy like Horford with Towns. Dieng's advanced stats are great, because, while he looks like a dork, he does all the little things that make a good player. He's a good defender, can switch and even chase three point shooters a little. He will take a charge. He doesn't require a lot of touches, but he has an effective jumper (though the release is slow). He works hard. He is always improving - Thibs said he was the most improved player on the Wolves. He's cost controlled too, and locked up for a while. I think the fit is really good.

While you can get the majority of posters here to agree with this trade, the hard person to convince would be Thibs. He loves Dieng, and he loves playing two bigs. I think the plan was to bring Taj off the bench, but perhaps he'd be comfortable starting him. We've had kind of a big man glut, but with this trade and Patton and Bjelica hurt, we might need to find a short term solution.

I like Dieng, but even to me this feels like you are overpaying.

[Streakers33]

That is a no brainer, frankly I think Bos could do better

Would that even save Bos any $?

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

A Wolves fan suggested a similar trade, but we didn't broach the subject. I think that Dieng gets under-rated.

First, let me say that I think Dieng would be a great fit with the Celtics. While I know Horford primarily plays center these days, Dieng would help him play either position, and he has experience playing next to a guy like Horford with Towns. Dieng's advanced stats are great, because, while he looks like a dork, he does all the little things that make a good player. He's a good defender, can switch and even chase three point shooters a little. He will take a charge. He doesn't require a lot of touches, but he has an effective jumper (though the release is slow). He works hard. He is always improving - Thibs said he was the most improved player on the Wolves. He's cost controlled too, and locked up for a while. I think the fit is really good.

While you can get the majority of posters here to agree with this trade, the hard person to convince would be Thibs. He loves Dieng, and he loves playing two bigs. I think the plan was to bring Taj off the bench, but perhaps he'd be comfortable starting him. We've had kind of a big man glut, but with this trade and Patton and Bjelica hurt, we might need to find a short term solution.

I like Dieng, but even to me this feels like you are overpaying.

Has been me for a long while shrink . I been moving dieng to Boston since the trade deadline ...

Boston does need a big. We just signed one. We need cost controlled players (wings even more that fit thibs style) and crowder /Bradley would be. Jackson and Mickey would help fill roster spots.. The trade above increases our cap just enough to be ok and helps Boston also. Sometimes win win moments work. I almost see the picks not needed. But if they push for okc's pick, I would push for bostons 2019 Detroit second rounder and 2020 miamis 2nd rounder they own. As will be huge for us when we capped next few years .. plus would help move cole if needed..


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[minimus]

Dieng and Aldrich for Bazemore and Bellineli? Then sign Birch or Udoh as temporary backup C, bring back Rush

KAT/Udoh/Patton
Gibson/Bjelica
Butler/Bazemore/Rush
Wiggins/Bellineli
Teague/Jones

I dont like it much, but it might be a solution to our unbalanced roster.

[Ethomasp31]

That is a no brainer, frankly I think Bos could do better

Would that even save Bos any $?

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

He's a good player but his best position is the same as KAT, so hes probably more valuable on another team
Sort of like how Rubio is more valuable on a team that doesn't have a ball dominant wing like Butler

I am very curious to whether Dieng can do what similarly excellent mid-range shooters M Gasol and B Lopez were able to do last year and extend his range so that he can shoot 3s for volume

That would be a game changer

There is no way Ainge would make that trade....Crowder is a on a great contract....and Dieng has neutral value at best...the salary cap not going up as much as expected made Dieng's contract an overpay in my opinion. That draft pick will be around 25 also now that OKC traded for George.

[shangrila]

It'd save us close to 3 million. We need about 3.1 million in space to sign Hayward if I'm not mistaken. We may need to throw in Jordan Mickey as well.

What is the sense of Dieng's value with you guys?

He's a good player but his best position is the same as KAT, so hes probably more valuable on another team
Sort of like how Rubio is more valuable on a team that doesn't have a ball dominant wing like Butler

I am very curious to whether Dieng can do what similarly excellent mid-range shooters M Gasol and B Lopez were able to do last year and extend his range so that he can shoot 3s for volume

That would be a game changer

There is no way Ainge would make that trade....Crowder is a on a great contract....and Dieng has neutral value at best...the salary cap not going up as much as expected made Dieng's contract an overpay in my opinion. That draft pick will be around 25 also now that OKC traded for George.

It's plausible.

Boston needs to shed salary to sign Hayward and Crowder has already come up in trade talks. They have a need for height and rebounding, both of which Dieng provide. And the first might just be enough to make Ainge believe he's "won" the trade and actually pull the trigger.

I find it harder to believe that Thibs would move Dieng personally.

[Tukkerwolf]

I appear to be alone in this, but I think giving up Dieng for backup wing player(s) (and we all know Butler and Wiggins will average 35 mins or more) like Crowder and Bradley (although they are very good, and well priced) is unwise.
Moving Dieng will also mean playing Aldrich significant minutes.
I think Aldrich and/or the OKC pick are the maximum we should offer for any reserve...

[jpatrick]

If the deal was simply Crowder for Dieng, the Celtics might go for it. But they are not packaging both Crowder and Bradley, and a simple 1-for-1 swap doesn't give them what they really need, cap space. So, I think Dieng is a no-go from the Celtics perspective.

[Peezo]

I appear to be alone in this, but I think giving up Dieng for backup wing player(s) (and we all know Butler and Wiggins will average 35 mins or more) like Crowder and Bradley (although they are very good, and well priced) is unwise.
Moving Dieng will also mean playing Aldrich significant minutes.
I think Aldrich and/or the OKC pick are the maximum we should offer for any reserve...

In traditional team building, I would agree that trading one starter for two bench pieces is often unwise, but when positions are considered I'm more in favor. Gorgui as a 4-5 has less value to us than Bradley as 2-3 and Crowder as a 3-4. With Taj Gibson in the fold too, we have two really strong bigs. The value around the league is down for bigs and 3 and D wings are at an all-time high for value. So in this case, I think we would have to jump at the chance to acquire two such players for only one big man.