Butler has requested a trade (Part II)

[K4P]

Apparently the Heat's offers have been getting better. We went from no Richardson to JRich and a pick
so much for no leverage...

[twix2500]

And he can, but that doesn't mean Taylor has to appease his request. You are the one presenting him getting a buy out as a legit possibility not me. Being possible =/= likely

I said he may ask for one, never said he will receive one. You were to quick to jump on me. I was bringing up a discussion point.

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If he asks for a buyout to intentionally tank his trade value and the Wolves end up buying him out then no one has his bird right next summer and it is impossible for him to get the 5 year $190 million dollar max. Completely shoots himself in the foot.

It would be an option if the Wolves attempt to send him to a team he does not want to be with or if the Wolves intend to try to force him to play out the season.

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[Mattya]

That's a fine answer. But that does not mean Butler will not attempt. Taylor may or may not do it. No need to jump on me for discussing this as a possible maneuver.

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And he can, but that doesn't mean Taylor has to appease his request. You are the one presenting him getting a buy out as a legit possibility not me. Being possible =/= likely

I said he may ask for one, never said he will receive one. You were to quick to jump on me. I was bringing up a discussion point.

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riiiiiggghhhtt....

Did you say unheard of lol. Bro it happens all the time.

Well I'm just warning you. Don't pull your hair if it happens.

This is you presenting this as if it is at all likely.

[Mattya]

Apparently the Heat's offers have been getting better. We went from no Richardson to JRich and a pick
so much for no leverage...

so stupid for not accepting the first offer.

[twix2500]

And he can, but that doesn't mean Taylor has to appease his request. You are the one presenting him getting a buy out as a legit possibility not me. Being possible =/= likely

I said he may ask for one, never said he will receive one. You were to quick to jump on me. I was bringing up a discussion point.

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riiiiiggghhhtt....

Did you say unheard of lol. Bro it happens all the time.

Well I'm just warning you. Don't pull your hair if it happens.

And your point on quoting me?

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[Mattya]

I said he may ask for one, never said he will receive one. You were to quick to jump on me. I was bringing up a discussion point.

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riiiiiggghhhtt....

Did you say unheard of lol. Bro it happens all the time.

Well I'm just warning you. Don't pull your hair if it happens.

And your point on quoting me?

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You were presenting these as if this is at all likely. If you can't accept that your "possible" scenario isn't "likely" like you presented, then you are just being obtuse.

[Mattya]

Let me give all these reason why people would do this, how often this happens, and the benefits for both parties, but pretend like I'm also not presenting these as a likely scenario.

[Domejandro]

That's a fine answer. But that does not mean Butler will not attempt. Taylor may or may not do it. No need to jump on me for discussing this as a possible maneuver.

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And he can, but that doesn't mean Taylor has to appease his request. You are the one presenting him getting a buy out as a legit possibility not me. Being possible =/= likely

I said he may ask for one, never said he will receive one. You were to quick to jump on me. I was bringing up a discussion point.

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It is a discussion point that makes absolutely no logical sense though, why would Minnesota let him go for free to help another team? There is literally no incentive to doing that.

[K4P]

Twolves taking so long because they are preparing to fleece the Heat
Lets be optimistic guys

[twix2500]

riiiiiggghhhtt....

And your point on quoting me?

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You were presenting these as if this is at all likely. If you can't accept that your "possible" scenario isn't "likely" like you presented, then you are just being obtuse.

That is my responses to you guys losing your cool. I'm telling you don't lose your cool IF it happens.

It doesn’t even make sense. You buyout guys who have multiple years left on their deal. Not someone who will walk in like 4 months.

My answer "it happens all the time."

Nothing I said that he was gonna get bought out.



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[big3_8_19_21]

And your point on quoting me?

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You were presenting these as if this is at all likely. If you can't accept that your "possible" scenario isn't "likely" like you presented, then you are just being obtuse.

That is my responses to you guys losing your cool. I'm telling you don't lose your cool IF it happens.

It doesn’t even make sense. You buyout guys who have multiple years left on their deal. Not someone who will walk in like 4 months.

My answer "it happens all the time."

Nothing I said that he was gonna get bought out.



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Don’t pull your hair out if Dwayne Wade demands to start at center. It’s against his best interest and there’s zero reason for him to do it, so I’m not saying it will happen. I’m just saying don’t lose your cool IF it happens.

[Mattya]

He isn't even arguing in good faith about his own position. He knows it isn't logical.

When you resorting to strawmanning here...

Show me a superstar who stay with a franchise that he doesn't want to be with and demanded a trade only just to get a fifth year on a supermax.

You were presenting this (which I never claimed) as a retort for me asking for evidence of an All NBA player receiving a buy out. So clearly you think this is unlikely. But it is possible. So by your same logic about something being possible we have to give it the same credence as ever other possible scenario. Because it is possible. Why would you argue that yours is possible, but present this as not possible.

It is possible Kevin Durant takes the minimum in Minnesota to win championships with KAT. But it isn't likely. That is why when people propose crazy scenarios that are possible but unlikely on the GB they get laughed at.

By suggesting something that unlikely as possible and come up with these scenarios is just absurd.

[big3_8_19_21]

I have to admit, though. If Jimmy Butler is willing to guarantee that he gets $50 million less on his next contract because no one has his bird rights as well as lose millions of dollars in personal income this year just to take a swipe at the Timberwolves and not actually gain anything for himself, then sure. He could ask for a buyout.

[twix2500]

He isn't even arguing in good faith about his own position. He knows it isn't logical.

When you resorting to strawmanning here...

Show me a superstar who stay with a franchise that he doesn't want to be with and demanded a trade only just to get a fifth year on a supermax.

You were presenting this (which I never claimed) as a retort for me asking for evidence of an All NBA player receiving a buy out. So clearly you think this is unlikely. But it is possible. So by your same logic about something being possible we have to give it the same credence as ever other possible scenario. Because it is possible. Why would you argue that yours is possible, but present this as not possible.

It is possible Kevin Durant takes the minimum in Minnesota to win championships with KAT. But it isn't likely. That is why when people propose crazy scenarios that are possible but unlikely on the GB they get laughed at.

By suggesting something that unlikely as possible and come up with these scenarios is just absurd.

Lawd have mercy. Good Night fam

[minimus]

One thing I don't understand... If HOU offer is Tucker, Gordon and FRP then we can give them Jimmy and see how they will be crushed financially next summer. This season is lost anyway.

[Mattya]

He isn't even arguing in good faith about his own position. He knows it isn't logical.

When you resorting to strawmanning here...

Show me a superstar who stay with a franchise that he doesn't want to be with and demanded a trade only just to get a fifth year on a supermax.

You were presenting this (which I never claimed) as a retort for me asking for evidence of an All NBA player receiving a buy out. So clearly you think this is unlikely. But it is possible. So by your same logic about something being possible we have to give it the same credence as ever other possible scenario. Because it is possible. Why would you argue that yours is possible, but present this as not possible.

It is possible Kevin Durant takes the minimum in Minnesota to win championships with KAT. But it isn't likely. That is why when people propose crazy scenarios that are possible but unlikely on the GB they get laughed at.

By suggesting something that unlikely as possible and come up with these scenarios is just absurd.

Lawd have mercy.

My sentiments exactly trying to understand your logic.

[Mattya]

I have to admit, though. If Jimmy Butler is willing to guarantee that he gets $50 million less on his next contract because no one has his bird rights as well as lose millions of dollars in personal income this year just to take a swipe at the Timberwolves and not actually gain anything for himself, then sure. He could ask for a buyout.

Wouldn't it just make more sense for him to resign with the Wolves in a trade which nets him any amount above the non bird rights max just to get traded to a team more willing to deal in the offseason. But no he is going to give up 0-50 million over the non bird rights max, plus accept a buy out? IDK that would seem like a very Shabazz Muhammad way of handling things.

[Mattya]

Twix presenting his theory tonight

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[big3_8_19_21]

I have to admit, though. If Jimmy Butler is willing to guarantee that he gets $50 million less on his next contract because no one has his bird rights as well as lose millions of dollars in personal income this year just to take a swipe at the Timberwolves and not actually gain anything for himself, then sure. He could ask for a buyout.

Wouldn't it just make more sense for him to resign with the Wolves in a trade which nets him any amount above the non bird rights max just to get traded to a team more willing to deal in the offseason. But no he is going to give up 0-50 million over the non bird rights max, plus accept a buy out? IDK that would seem like a very Shabazz Muhammad way of handling things.

Literally anything makes more sense for him than asking for a buyout.

Good lord, can you imagine if we were ALSO on the hook for $10 mil a year to Bazz right now? Yeesh. Him and Sprewell. Two guys that really did us a favor by turning down contract extensions over the years.

[Revived]

Twix presenting his theory tonight

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Lol I love KG.