Neeva wrote:younggunsmn wrote:I'm all-in on Wiseman, for this reason:
He is the only player I could see myself seriously regretting passing on down the road.
His ceiling is so much higher than anyone else.
Edwards could become a 25 ppg scorer and ball a 10 assist guy, and It wouldnt bother me much if we passed on them.
I see too many negatives with both.
Look at the guys we most regret passing on:
Curry - was a phenomenal college shooter. knock was size and competition.
Murray - was a very good college shooter.
Klay - great college shooter
Cousins - physical specimen
Giannis - physical specimen
Gobert - physical specimen
Wiseman falls into the category of incredibly physically gifted.
He has the potential to be even better than KAT, who is what he is defensively at this point.
He has tyson chandler length and agility with what looks like a very smooth jump shot.
Watching that video with footage from when he was 15 years old, you can see the growth and improvement.
If he had played a full season, there would be no question who goes 1st.
If you have a KAT or a Zion or Ja Morant there, its a different story.
The rest of the guys in this draft just dont have that glaring upside.
He is cut a little high for a guy who is 7'1 with a 7'6 wingspan, which should help a little with his agility.
Worse yet, if we pass on him, and he ends up on the Warriors, where is is a perfect fit, it is an even bigger disaster.
It's probably why the espn talking heads are trying to push edwards or ball down our throats, they want Wiseman on the Warriors.
You are looking at Wiseman and KAT sharing the floor for 10-20 mins a game, depending on how slowly we bring him along.
That shouldnt be a problem.
I like having 2 beast offensive rebounders out there too with all the 3's we will be chucking.
And when you struggle defensively, it's super important to grab every defensive board.
It was so frustrating at points last year watching all the extra possessions we were giving up while trying to get back into the game.
I see his floor as Clint Capela and his ceiling as Anthony Davis.
He needs to get stronger in the post, but that part of the game is disappearing.
At worst he is an incredibly effective "slash 5" who sets picks and rim runs.
I'd like to see us draft wiseman, re-sign beasley, and trade or sign for another deadeye shooter.
So this is my mock offseason:
Draft Wiseman @ 1
Re-sign beasley 4-56
Target and trade for Buddy Hield
Johsnon + Culver +33
Or Johsnon + Spellman + 17 for Hield + 35
If we keep 17 , draft poniskarevsky if he's there, if not Theo Maledon as developmental PG.
33 or 33+35, look for backup 4/backup PG, this draft is loaded with good 4's and 5's.
Offer Juancho QO and pass if he gets a multyear offer sheet.
With Russell, Beasley, Hield, Kat you have 4 potential 40% 3 pt shooters.
Wiseman setting picks, gobbling boards, and diving to the basket keeping teams honest.
It seemed like Hield was getting pushed out of the rotation last year. He has 3 years of 40%+ 3 point shooting under his belt.
Is making 24 mil next year, but on a declining 4 year contract where the last year is 21.
With a new regime in sacramento he might be a guy we could target, who fits our scheme and is relatively attainable.
It's not my money, and it goes against our history when it comes to adding $,
but I feel we need to use James Johsnon's expiring to add a player,
and keep the ability to add a 20 mil+ player available,
because we will lose it if we just let him expire because we will likely be capped out the next few years.
Like the Warriors did with Wiggins.
What does wiseman do that will seperate him from other big men? Right now the only valuable big men are the ones that do something unique like Kat and his elite long range shooting and Jokic with his passing.
Wiseman will lose value in this current state the league is in without something unique and Rosas is pretty much just collecting trading chips for his next star player(Booker)
First off he has more length than almost every other big man in the NBA. That is a good thing. Second he's more athletic than at least 90% of them. Third he makes his free throws at a respectable rate which few big men do. Fourth he is younger than I think every big man currently in the NBA and has more time to improve then all of them.
