Trade Talk (Part Five)

Baseline81 · Post #181 » by **Baseline81** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 4:18 pm

Jedzz wrote:He's about as trustworthy as KP and Layman with this injury business. He'd eat up a ton of cap and then wear a suit on a chair half the season for a "it hurts" situation.

Agree, Hayward isn't worth targeting unless Rosas requires a large contract, outside of Russell and Towns, for trade purposes.

Merc_Porto · Post #182 » by **Merc_Porto** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 4:27 pm

We are not getting Booker, stop it!

Well, at least not now.

UnFadeable21 · Post #183 » by **UnFadeable21** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 6:26 pm

Minnesota Timberwolves send

Jarrett Culver, Sign & Trade Malik Beasley, expiring James Johnson & Omari Spellmon + 2020 1st overall NBA Draft pick & unprotected 2023 Unprotected1st round pick

To

Phoenix Suns for Devin Booker

Baseline81 · Post #184 » by **Baseline81** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 6:38 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:

Minnesota Timberwolves send

Jarrett Culver, Sign & Trade Malik Beasley, expiring James Johnson & Omari Spellmon + 2020 1st overall NBA Draft pick & unprotected 2023 Unprotected1st round pick

To

Phoenix Suns for Devin Booker

Unless Booker puts up a public fuss, you can stop with the hypothetical trades.

UnFadeable21 · Post #185 » by **UnFadeable21** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 6:45 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:

Minnesota Timberwolves send

Jarrett Culver, Sign & Trade Malik Beasley, expiring James Johnson & Omari Spellmon + 2020 1st overall NBA Draft pick & unprotected 2023 Unprotected1st round pick

To

Phoenix Suns for Devin Booker

Unless Booker puts up a public fuss, you can stop with the hypothetical trades.

Suns Draft Lamelo Ball to pair him with Ayton

Lamelo/Rubio/Payne
Beasley/Culver
Oubre/Bridges
Johnson/Cam/Diallo
Ayton/Kamisky/Spellman

Expiring contracts:

Johnson 16 million
Oubre 14 million
Kaminsky 5 million
Diallo 2 million
Spellman 2 mllion
Payne 2 million

41 million cap space for 2021 Big Free Agency Class plus 2023 Unprotected 1st

Baseline81 · Post #186 » by **Baseline81** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 7:09 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:Suns Draft Lamelo Ball to pair him with Ayton

Lamelo/Rubio/Payne
Beasley/Culver
Oubre/Bridges
Johnson/Cam/Diallo
Ayton/Kamisky/Spellman

Expiring contracts:

Johnson 16 million
Oubre 14 million
Kaminsky 5 million
Diallo 2 million
Spellman 2 mllion
Payne 2 million

41 million cap space for 2021 Big Free Agency Class plus 2023 Unprotected 1st

Like the Wolves, cap space doesn't help the Suns. It's not a destination team such as the Lakers, New York, Miami, etc.

Chances are Phoenix would ask for the Brooklyn pick as well. Even then, there is no desperation to deal Booker, especially after coming out of how well the Suns played in the bubble.

Revisit closer to the trade deadline based on standings.

UnFadeable21 · Post #187 » by **UnFadeable21** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 8:08 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:Suns Draft Lamelo Ball to pair him with Ayton

Lamelo/Rubio/Payne
Beasley/Culver
Oubre/Bridges
Johnson/Cam/Diallo
Ayton/Kamisky/Spellman

Expiring contracts:

Johnson 16 million
Oubre 14 million
Kaminsky 5 million
Diallo 2 million
Spellman 2 mllion
Payne 2 million

41 million cap space for 2021 Big Free Agency Class plus 2023 Unprotected 1st

Like the Wolves, cap space doesn't help the Suns. It's not a destination team such as the Lakers, New York, Miami, etc.

Chances are Phoenix would ask for the Brooklyn pick as well. Even then, there is no desperation to deal Booker, especially after coming out of how well the Suns played in the bubble.

Revisit closer to the trade deadline based on standings.

Looks like you’re right

This week, Ryen Russillo of The Ringer suggested that it was the NBA’s “worst kept secret” that Booker wanted out of Phoenix.

“They have to worry about the Booker thing,” he said. “The worst-kept secret in the league is Booker already wants out of there. And if it’s another bad season, I actually think that could get ugly.”

“The Wolves have been looking into Booker’s potential availability for months but have been given no indication that he is available,” Shams Charania of The Athletic reported this week

Post #188 » by **Domejandro** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 8:09 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:Suns Draft Lamelo Ball to pair him with Ayton

Lamelo/Rubio/Payne
Beasley/Culver
Oubre/Bridges
Johnson/Cam/Diallo
Ayton/Kamisky/Spellman

Expiring contracts:

Johnson 16 million
Oubre 14 million
Kaminsky 5 million
Diallo 2 million
Spellman 2 mllion
Payne 2 million

41 million cap space for 2021 Big Free Agency Class plus 2023 Unprotected 1st

Like the Wolves, cap space doesn't help the Suns. It's not a destination team such as the Lakers, New York, Miami, etc.

Chances are Phoenix would ask for the Brooklyn pick as well. Even then, there is no desperation to deal Booker, especially after coming out of how well the Suns played in the bubble.

Revisit closer to the trade deadline based on standings.

Looks like you’re right

This week, Ryen Russillo of The Ringer suggested that it was the NBA’s “worst kept secret” that Booker wanted out of Phoenix.

“They have to worry about the Booker thing,” he said. “The worst-kept secret in the league is Booker already wants out of there. And if it’s another bad season, I actually think that could get ugly.”

“The Wolves have been looking into Booker’s potential availability for months but have been given no indication that he is available,” Shams Charania of The Athletic reported this week

Nothing Ryen Russillo says should ever be taken without mountains of salt.

Baseline81 · Post #189 » by **Baseline81** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 7:49 pm

FWIW:

Read on Twitter

IceManBK1 · Post #190 » by **IceManBK1** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 9:27 pm

we could explore sign and trade with Toronto for Serge Ibaka...for 3 yr 45mil yr deal involving JJ+#17. Ibaka still mobile and athletic enough to play the 4..and should have atleast 3 good yrs left in him. Good fit next to Towns IMO.

IceManBK1 · Post #191 » by **IceManBK1** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:06 pm

viewtopic.php?t=2008704 Bulls looking to move up. Lavine+4th for #1 and JJ...use #4 to draft Onyeka. Trade #17+Culver for Aaron Gordon.
Dlo
Lavine
Gordon
Onyeka
Towns

Neeva · Post #192 » by **Neeva** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:20 pm

Culver and 17 is an overpay for Gordon.

Wolveswin · Post #193 » by **Wolveswin** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:21 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:viewtopic.php?t=2008704 Bulls looking to move up. Lavine+4th for #1 and JJ...use #4 to draft Onyeka. Trade #17+Culver for Aaron Gordon.
Dlo
Lavine
Gordon
Onyeka
Towns

Yuck. As much as I am a LaVine camp guy, he and Russell would have too many holes for any Dutch boy to fill. And no way do Wolves add Culver to get Gordon.

Bulls: #4 + LaVine FOR #1 + Johnson

Magic: LaVine FOR A. Gordon

Wolves: #1 + Johnson FOR #4 + A. Gordon

And I think Rosas should get a future 1st from Bulls (if he can).

Wolveswin · Post #194 » by **Wolveswin** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:30 pm

Baseline81 wrote:FWIW:

Read on Twitter

#1 for #3 + 2021 Hornets 1st

#1= Wiseman
#2= Edwards

#3 for #8 + 2021 Knicks 1st

#3= Ball

Towns
Toppin or Okongwu
Culver
Beasley or Okogie
Russell

IceManBK1 · Post #195 » by **IceManBK1** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:39 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:viewtopic.php?t=2008704 Bulls looking to move up. Lavine+4th for #1 and JJ...use #4 to draft Onyeka. Trade #17+Culver for Aaron Gordon.
Dlo
Lavine
Gordon
Onyeka
Towns

Yuck. As much as I am a LaVine camp guy, he and Russell would have too many holes for any Dutch boy to fill. And no way do Wolves add Culver to get Gordon.

Bulls: #4 + LaVine FOR #1 + Johnson

Magic: LaVine FOR A. Gordon

Wolves: #1 + Johnson FOR #4 + A. Gordon

And I think Rosas should get a future 1st from Bulls (if he can).

I'd do #4, Otto Porter Jr(opts in to his PO; one yr to prove himself; system fit)Lauri Markkanen(still on rookie contract) for #1, JJ and Culver.

PG: Dlo
SG: Resign Beasley: Sign Joe Harris(MLE) Trade#17 for Kris Dunn(good defender)
SF: Otto Porter(3D)
PF:Lauri Markkanen(Stretch 4)
C:Towns

draft with #4 pick onyeka okongwu or flip him to Toronto for sign and trade for Serge Ibaka(can serve as defensive backup pf or center)

IceManBK1 · Post #196 » by **IceManBK1** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:43 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:FWIW:

Read on Twitter

#1 for #3 + 2021 Hornets 1st

#1= Wiseman
#2= Edwards

#3 for #8 + 2021 Knicks 1st

#3= Ball

Towns
Toppin or Okongwu
Culver
Beasley or Okogie
Russell

i think hornets should give up one of bridges or washington+#3..their similar in height and playing style..making one of them redundant.

Neeva · Post #197 » by **Neeva** » Sat Nov 7, 2020 11:50 pm

If wolves do those trades I’d honestly prefer to trade down even further from 8.
4-8 is just not a good spot in this draft. I expect Okongwu gone before 8 and Toppin has bust all over him
8+Vanderbilt,johnson and Nowell for 15/Gordon.

Then draft Saddiq Bey at 15 , Maxey at 17 , Perry or Riller at 33

Russell/????
Beasley/Maxey/???
Bey/Culver/Okogie
Gordon/Jauncho/Perry
Towns/Reid/????

Plus 2021 knicks and Hornet picks

I could live with that.

shrink · Post #198 » by **shrink** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:13 am

Jack Borman from Canis Hoopus suggested this:

#1 for PJ Washington plus 2021 CHA 1st unprotected

CHA gets the #1 and #3.

Thoughts?

Wolveswin · Post #199 » by **Wolveswin** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:19 am

shrink wrote:Jack Borman from Canis Hoopus suggested this:

#1 for PJ Washington plus 2021 CHA 1st unprotected

CHA gets the #1 and #3.

Thoughts?

Bold. I just don’t think I could do it. Imagine giving up #1, Wolves some how suck and gift Warriors #4 in 2021 and Hornets over achieve...Wolves get like #10.

That is a real bad look for Rosas.

shrink · Post #200 » by **shrink** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 12:23 am

IceManBK1 wrote:we could explore sign and trade with Toronto for Serge Ibaka...for 3 yr 45mil yr deal involving JJ+#17. Ibaka still mobile and athletic enough to play the 4..and should have atleast 3 good yrs left in him. Good fit next to Towns IMO.

Not a fan of Ibaka on a three year, and I’m concerned about being hardcapped.

IceManBK1 wrote:viewtopic.php?t=2008704 Bulls looking to move up. Lavine+4th for #1 and JJ...use #4 to draft Onyeka. Trade #17+Culver for Aaron Gordon.
Dlo
Lavine
Gordon
Onyeka
Towns

LaVine and DLo can’t share a back court defensively.

And personally, I don’t think Aaron Gordon and Otto Porter don’t seem like valuable enough players to trade down from the #1.