The Leandro Bolmaro thread

[Frankie23]

After watching these two games, I don’t think I’d be comfortable moving Beasley. Bolmaro shot 40% from three on limited attempts but he isn’t comfortable shooting. Timid on that end. They are constantly going under screens and sagging off and he’s not even looking at the rim.

My best comp for if he came over next year would be a Culver type with hopefully a little more confidence in his shot. Good wing size, plays hard, plays smart, solid defense. Not going to look for his offense much. Plenty of room to mature offensively over the next few years.

Micic, the Euroleague MVP, would be a fun compliment to SGA in Oklahoma City.

Let's face it, if Bolmaro decides to come to the NBA, he will play 82 games of no preassure basketball as Minnesota is not looking like a playoff team in the near future.
These last 2 games were the highest level of preassure he'll face in some time. Him being the youngest/most unexperienced guy on the court, i think he was very good. Most of the under 22 that comes from Europe don't get to play 25mins on the Euroleague finals, so this was a very nice step for him and of course he looked timid to shot, it wasn't his role.
I think that given his speed and type of game, he'll feel more comfortable in the NBA than Europe, just because of the faster pace and because there's more space in the NBA.

[Klomp]

After watching these two games, I don’t think I’d be comfortable moving Beasley. Bolmaro shot 40% from three on limited attempts but he isn’t comfortable shooting. Timid on that end. They are constantly going under screens and sagging off and he’s not even looking at the rim.

My best comp for if he came over next year would be a Culver type with hopefully a little more confidence in his shot. Good wing size, plays hard, plays smart, solid defense. Not going to look for his offense much. Plenty of room to mature offensively over the next few years.

Micic, the Euroleague MVP, would be a fun compliment to SGA in Oklahoma City.

I feel like these same types of statements were made about Rubio in 2011 before he came over. No, he doesn't have a complete star package but I think overall I'm getting more excited about him right now than about our potential top-three pick.

[jpatrick]

After watching these two games, I don’t think I’d be comfortable moving Beasley. Bolmaro shot 40% from three on limited attempts but he isn’t comfortable shooting. Timid on that end. They are constantly going under screens and sagging off and he’s not even looking at the rim.

My best comp for if he came over next year would be a Culver type with hopefully a little more confidence in his shot. Good wing size, plays hard, plays smart, solid defense. Not going to look for his offense much. Plenty of room to mature offensively over the next few years.

Micic, the Euroleague MVP, would be a fun compliment to SGA in Oklahoma City.

I feel like these same types of statements were made about Rubio in 2011 before he came over. No, he doesn't have a complete star package but I think overall I'm getting more excited about him right now than about our potential top-three pick.

I remember watching Rubio in Europe the two years after we drafted him and being shocked how he was being used. He had switched European teams and it seemed like he was being put in the corner and was clearly the fifth man on offense. His jump shot was the same funky set shot he has now but didn’t go in as frequently.

Bolmaro’s jumper is mechanically sound. He shot it at a decent percentage on low volume. I think this is just he knows he’s about the 8th man offensively on this team and is much younger than everyone else. Than placing him in a major role in the final four, bigger than he had played for most of Euroleague, just made him a bit timid/deferential. I still like his long term potential but no way he makes the impact a top three pick would make. Even Rulas, who has seen Bolmaro more than the rest of us, said he’d see him as a mid first rounder pick in this years draft.

I was hoping Bolmaro would come over and soak up all the backup two guard minutes if we moved Beasley, providing a scoring punch, but at this point, until Nowell, Bolmaro, McDaniels prove to be more reliable shooters, I think we probably need Beasley.

[Klomp]

I remember watching Rubio in Europe the two years after we drafted him and being shocked how he was being used. He had switched European teams and it seemed like he was being put in the corner and was clearly the fifth man on offense. His jump shot was the same funky set shot he has now but didn’t go in as frequently.

Bolmaro’s jumper is mechanically sound. He shot it at a decent percentage on low volume. I think this is just he knows he’s about the 8th man offensively on this team and is much younger than everyone else. Than placing him in a major role in the final four, bigger than he had played for most of Euroleague, just made him a bit timid/deferential. I still like his long term potential but no way he makes the impact a top three pick would make. Even Rulas, who has seen Bolmaro more than the rest of us, said he’d see him as a mid first rounder pick in this years draft.

I was hoping Bolmaro would come over and soak up all the backup two guard minutes if we moved Beasley, providing a scoring punch, but at this point, until Nowell, Bolmaro, McDaniels prove to be more reliable shooters, I think we probably need Beasley.

I still think Bolmaro can play that backup role right away. The key will be putting other players with an offensive skillset around him, whether it's an all-reserve unit or in combination with the starters. I think we could get shooting elsewhere too in a trade or something, so I'm not so sure we're tied to Beasley.

Right now my ideal draft outcome is getting Mobley, which would set up a starting lineup of Russell / Edwards / McDaniels / Mobley / Towns. Edwards initiating things, with others who can take defensive attention away from him. I see Bolmaro in the Edwards role on the second unit, whether they go a little smaller with a PG and Beasley joining him or putting a bigger SF next to him like Juancho if they trade Beasley.

[Battletrigger]

After watching these two games, I don’t think I’d be comfortable moving Beasley. Bolmaro shot 40% from three on limited attempts but he isn’t comfortable shooting. Timid on that end. They are constantly going under screens and sagging off and he’s not even looking at the rim.

My best comp for if he came over next year would be a Culver type with hopefully a little more confidence in his shot. Good wing size, plays hard, plays smart, solid defense. Not going to look for his offense much. Plenty of room to mature offensively over the next few years.

Micic, the Euroleague MVP, would be a fun compliment to SGA in Oklahoma City.

I feel like these same types of statements were made about Rubio in 2011 before he came over. No, he doesn't have a complete star package but I think overall I'm getting more excited about him right now than about our potential top-three pick.

Man, for your own good, let the vodka for the weekend.

[Domejandro]

You don’t move Malik Beasley to make space for a rookie, Minnesota isn’t tanking.

[TheZachAttack]

I remember watching Rubio in Europe the two years after we drafted him and being shocked how he was being used. He had switched European teams and it seemed like he was being put in the corner and was clearly the fifth man on offense. His jump shot was the same funky set shot he has now but didn’t go in as frequently.

Bolmaro’s jumper is mechanically sound. He shot it at a decent percentage on low volume. I think this is just he knows he’s about the 8th man offensively on this team and is much younger than everyone else. Than placing him in a major role in the final four, bigger than he had played for most of Euroleague, just made him a bit timid/deferential. I still like his long term potential but no way he makes the impact a top three pick would make. Even Rulas, who has seen Bolmaro more than the rest of us, said he’d see him as a mid first rounder pick in this years draft.

I was hoping Bolmaro would come over and soak up all the backup two guard minutes if we moved Beasley, providing a scoring punch, but at this point, until Nowell, Bolmaro, McDaniels prove to be more reliable shooters, I think we probably need Beasley.

I still think Bolmaro can play that backup role right away. The key will be putting other players with an offensive skillset around him, whether it's an all-reserve unit or in combination with the starters. I think we could get shooting elsewhere too in a trade or something, so I'm not so sure we're tied to Beasley.

Right now my ideal draft outcome is getting Mobley, which would set up a starting lineup of Russell / Edwards / McDaniels / Mobley / Towns. Edwards initiating things, with others who can take defensive attention away from him. I see Bolmaro in the Edwards role on the second unit, whether they go a little smaller with a PG and Beasley joining him or putting a bigger SF next to him like Juancho if they trade Beasley.

I think the best role for Bolmaro starting out is similar to McDaniels. What I mean by that is place him in a limited role where he outperforms that role by consistently making the right plays within the flow of the offense and flashing some ability to play above that role along with the defensive intensity and hustle. I think Bolmaro will succeed if that's what you expect from him as a rookie in a backup role.

[rulas95]

I'll be back with an update.

After a more than correct Euroleague final for a 20-year-old boy, despite lacking more decisiveness in attack.

Today the PlayOffs of the Spanish League began, the game ended about 5 minutes ago.

I reiterate that his offensive progress is brutal, today the team's top scorer (16p) with 5/5 in T2 (3 of them middle range shots) and 2/4 in T3, in addition to 2 rebounds and 5 assists.

Right now I think his main point of improvement should be the bounce, and keep improving his shooting and penetration, which he is already doing. In addition, everyone says that his work ethic is incredible, that he works the longest hours of the entire team.

[Battletrigger]

Man, you don't face la Penya in the NBA.

[life_saver]

I'll be back with an update.

After a more than correct Euroleague final for a 20-year-old boy, despite lacking more decisiveness in attack.

Today the PlayOffs of the Spanish League began, the game ended about 5 minutes ago.

I reiterate that his offensive progress is brutal, today the team's top scorer (16p) with 5/5 in T2 (3 of them middle range shots) and 2/4 in T3, in addition to 2 rebounds and 5 assists.

Right now I think his main point of improvement should be the bounce, and keep improving his shooting and penetration, which he is already doing. In addition, everyone says that his work ethic is incredible, that he works the longest hours of the entire team.

Did you mean 'brutal' in a good sense here?

[KGdaBom]

After watching these two games, I don’t think I’d be comfortable moving Beasley. Bolmaro shot 40% from three on limited attempts but he isn’t comfortable shooting. Timid on that end. They are constantly going under screens and sagging off and he’s not even looking at the rim.

My best comp for if he came over next year would be a Culver type with hopefully a little more confidence in his shot. Good wing size, plays hard, plays smart, solid defense. Not going to look for his offense much. Plenty of room to mature offensively over the next few years.

Micic, the Euroleague MVP, would be a fun compliment to SGA in Oklahoma City.

I feel like these same types of statements were made about Rubio in 2011 before he came over. No, he doesn't have a complete star package but I think overall I'm getting more excited about him right now than about our potential top-three pick.

That's a big statement. I hope he turns out top of the lottery good.

[KGdaBom]

Here's the box score from the Euro championship game.

https://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=328&seasoncode=E2020

Shane Larkin dominating does not speak well for the EuroLeague.

[thinktank]

Here's the box score from the Euro championship game.

https://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=328&seasoncode=E2020

Shane Larkin dominating does not speak well for the EuroLeague.

Shane Larkin is a decade older than Bolmaro.

HTH.

[KGdaBom]

Here's the box score from the Euro championship game.

https://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=328&seasoncode=E2020

Shane Larkin dominating does not speak well for the EuroLeague.

Shane Larkin is a decade older than Bolmaro.

HTH.

I know and he still dominates EL ball. That's not good.

[thinktank]

Here's the box score from the Euro championship game.

https://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=328&seasoncode=E2020

Shane Larkin dominating does not speak well for the EuroLeague.

Shane Larkin is a decade older than Bolmaro.

HTH.

I know and he still dominates EL ball. That's not good.

“Still”? Age 28 = Many player’s prime of their career.

Please explain how Shane Larkin in his prime and playing well in EL means “that’s not good” for Bolmaro. TIA.

[jpatrick]

Here's the box score from the Euro championship game.

https://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=328&seasoncode=E2020

Shane Larkin dominating does not speak well for the EuroLeague.

Shane Larkin is a decade older than Bolmaro.

HTH.

I know and he still dominates EL ball. That's not good.

EL is not the NBA but it is the second best league in the world. Efes and Barca would absolutely destroy a g-league or NCAA championship team. Both have a ton of players that could be in the NBA if they wanted to move here, have smaller roles, and likely make less money.

Larkin at 28, in his prime, is better than when he was a first round pick or a backup NBA PG. I’m sure a team would sign him as a rotational PG if he wanted to come back but why would he?

[rulas95]

Here's the box score from the Euro championship game.

https://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=328&seasoncode=E2020

Shane Larkin dominating does not speak well for the EuroLeague.

Yeah, but Larkin is the main option in EFES, and you can´t forget that the Larkin numbers in the NBA are not be bad.

Also are differents type of basket, for example Seraphin had good years in NBA and in the Barcelona not play any minutes... Is obviusly that the NBA are the best league.
But basketball in Europe has a very good level, especially at a tactical level, I always reiterate that it seems much more tactical to me and that the teams are much more prepared in terms of game systems, for example.

Although this is another very long debate, it is clear that the NBA is the best league with an abysmal difference over the next, but as a League the next one by level would be the Spanish, then I would say that the Greek and then the Turkish, all of them seem to me that They are higher than the NCAA (Although this is not a professional league)

[rulas95]

I'll be back with an update.

After a more than correct Euroleague final for a 20-year-old boy, despite lacking more decisiveness in attack.

Today the PlayOffs of the Spanish League began, the game ended about 5 minutes ago.

I reiterate that his offensive progress is brutal, today the team's top scorer (16p) with 5/5 in T2 (3 of them middle range shots) and 2/4 in T3, in addition to 2 rebounds and 5 assists.

Right now I think his main point of improvement should be the bounce, and keep improving his shooting and penetration, which he is already doing. In addition, everyone says that his work ethic is incredible, that he works the longest hours of the entire team.

Did you mean 'brutal' in a good sense here?

Yes mate!

[winforlose]

So I have a question about EL in general. I want to preface this by saying I know next to nothing about it as I don’t follow international or Olympic basketball. It occurred to me as I was reading some of the above posts that bjelly was a euro league mvp before coming to the wolves. I am just wondering if he is a decent benchmark for the quality of the players or if there was some other factor that explains it? Again this is a question as I have no clue about the answer.

[Battletrigger]

Luka Doncic was Euroleague MVP too.

As said, European basketball is more based in technique and fundamentals than phisical power and has lower pace.

There are people that don't performance as expected in USA and in Europe is a great player, but it's not law neither. And in the other hand, for example, the year before Rubio went to the Wolves he was benched many times and played poorly, and then went there and many people felt in love with him.