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Trade Talk (Part Seven)

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Post#181 » by DaMplsKid » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:34 pm

One guy's that isn't a sexy pick up but I think would be a nice fit at PF is OG Anunoby.

Toranto might go full on rebuild and want to take a flyer on Culver. But OG would be a nice modern day PF. He can defend multiple positions and shoots the 3 at about 40%. Salary wise he is only making 8mil. If we can give them Culver and a lottery/top 8 protected pick. I would do that.

Or we give them Rubio if they move Lowry.
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Post#182 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:50 pm

DaMplsKid wrote:One guy's that isn't a sexy pick up but I think would be a nice fit at PF is OG Anunoby.

Toranto might go full on rebuild and want to take a flyer on Culver. But OG would be a nice modern day PF. He can defend multiple positions and shoots the 3 at about 40%. Salary wise he is only making 8mil. If we can give them Culver and a lottery/top 8 protected pick. I would do that.

Or we give them Rubio if they move Lowry.


OG would be great, but I have no idea why they'd want to move him. He's really good, only 23 and the odds of a late lottery pick being better than him are very slight. He's a guy you build around, not dump.

(He's also set to make 16M next year, but that's still good value for a stud 2-way player).
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Seven) 

Post#183 » by Neeva » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:04 pm

Anunoby is overated.
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Post#184 » by TheProdigy » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:57 pm

Neeva wrote:Anunoby is overated.

Anunoby is overrated to people who under value defense.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Seven) 

Post#185 » by Domejandro » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:02 am

TheProdigy wrote:
Neeva wrote:Anunoby is overated.

Anunoby is overrated to people who under value defense.

Aligns with their bad Ben Simmons takes.

In any case, Minnesota would obviously kill to obtain a twenty-three year old player that scores 16 points per game, shoots 40% from three on volume, and plays elite defense, but I see no reason why Toronto would trade him for our garbage.
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Post#186 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:10 am

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TheProdigy wrote:
Neeva wrote:Anunoby is overated.

Anunoby is overrated to people who under value defense.

Aligns with their bad Ben Simmons takes.

In any case, Minnesota would obviously kill to obtain a twenty-three year old player that scores 16 points per game, shoots 40% from three on volume, and plays elite defense, but I see no reason why Toronto would trade him for our garbage.


Personally, I think OG has more trade value than Simmons. OG would be an excellent fit.
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Post#187 » by Neeva » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:11 am

TheProdigy wrote:
Neeva wrote:Anunoby is overated.

Anunoby is overrated to people who under value defense.

Thaat toronto defense anchored by Anunoby and Siakam was middling at best.

Not surprisingly these posters that overvalue Anunoby would have given up edwards for him straight up before last draft..
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Post#188 » by Norseman79 » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:28 am

OG is a SF...he would be another undersized 4. Great player though
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Post#189 » by Dewey » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:44 am

Whoever we try to acquire they gotta be a tough MF cause DLo and KAT are … not. These guys are out there but we gotta find a way to coax a couple into this now rat infested city. One thing the Wolves and city have in common is they both lack leadership … big changes needed
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Post#190 » by jpatrick » Thu Jul 1, 2021 2:24 am

SO_MONEY wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
TheProdigy wrote:Anunoby is overrated to people who under value defense.

Aligns with their bad Ben Simmons takes.

In any case, Minnesota would obviously kill to obtain a twenty-three year old player that scores 16 points per game, shoots 40% from three on volume, and plays elite defense, but I see no reason why Toronto would trade him for our garbage.


Personally, I think OG has more trade value than Simmons. OG would be an excellent fit.


I think their value would be pretty similar. If the Raps are going full rebuild, I would think they’ll trade Siakim before OG.
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Post#191 » by shangrila » Thu Jul 1, 2021 4:06 am

Dewey wrote:Whoever we try to acquire they gotta be a tough MF cause DLo and KAT are … not. These guys are out there but we gotta find a way to coax a couple into this now rat infested city. One thing the Wolves and city have in common is they both lack leadership … big changes needed

It's a shame Crowder turned us down.

Can't blame him, especially with how it all turned out, but he would've been a great pickup in that respect.
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Post#192 » by DaBolden76 » Thu Jul 1, 2021 8:33 am

Simmons to Minny is likely. On this team he would be a PF. Just have to look at his most recent performance against Washington when Embiid was out. Another example was against Utah when he scored 42 and made about 10 FTs at good percentage. There’s no nothing wrong with his jump shoot. It’s not pretty but he’s afraid to fail. When he gets over this hurdle he’s going to be good. Minny need to take this risk, Simmons alone helps them get to the Playoffs.
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Post#193 » by winforlose » Thu Jul 1, 2021 11:15 am

DaBolden76 wrote:Simmons to Minny is likely. On this team he would be a PF. Just have to look at his most recent performance against Washington when Embiid was out. Another example was against Utah when he scored 42 and made about 10 FTs at good percentage. There’s no nothing wrong with his jump shoot. It’s not pretty but he’s afraid to fail. When he gets over this hurdle he’s going to be good. Minny need to take this risk, Simmons alone helps them get to the Playoffs.


Other than Beasley and Rubio what would we give them? I wouldn’t trade MCD for Simmons and Ant, KAT, and Dlo are all likely off limits. Okogie and a pick might do it, but I have to believe the 76ers are getting better offers than that for Simmons.
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Post#194 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:18 pm

winforlose wrote:Other than Beasley and Rubio what would we give them? I wouldn’t trade MCD for Simmons and Ant, KAT, and Dlo are all likely off limits. Okogie and a pick might do it, but I have to believe the 76ers are getting better offers than that for Simmons.

Assuming Towns, Edwards and Russell are off-limits as has been reported (and how it should be), the next most valuable assets after Rubio and Beasley are going to be McDaniels, Reid and picks.

I would be extremely hesitant to include McDaniels. I'm more willing to include Reid, though he probably has more value to a third team (Toronto?).
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Post#195 » by Dewey » Thu Jul 1, 2021 12:20 pm

shangrila wrote:
Dewey wrote:Whoever we try to acquire they gotta be a tough MF cause DLo and KAT are … not. These guys are out there but we gotta find a way to coax a couple into this now rat infested city. One thing the Wolves and city have in common is they both lack leadership … big changes needed

It's a shame Crowder turned us down.

Can't blame him, especially with how it all turned out, but he would've been a great pickup in that respect.

Agree…

I’m good bringing in Simmons, but as many have discussed, it’s about what we’d have to give. An elite defender that can handle the ball is helpful for this roster.

DLo, ANT, McD, Simmons, KAT is not too shabby as long as ANT and McD take steps forward.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Seven) 

Post#196 » by Neeva » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:29 pm

Dlo should not be offlimits though.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Seven) 

Post#197 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:40 pm

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SO_MONEY wrote:
Domejandro wrote:Aligns with their bad Ben Simmons takes.

In any case, Minnesota would obviously kill to obtain a twenty-three year old player that scores 16 points per game, shoots 40% from three on volume, and plays elite defense, but I see no reason why Toronto would trade him for our garbage.


Personally, I think OG has more trade value than Simmons. OG would be an excellent fit.


I think their value would be pretty similar. If the Raps are going full rebuild, I would think they’ll trade Siakim before OG.


IDK. OG is younger and can shoot and would fit on nearly every team, he plays excellent defense and his contract is reasonable... Simmons is a name and clearly he is interesting as far as some of his guard like skills, but it is basically all ruined by his lack of shooting. I would give up more for OG and it would open up players I would be reluctant to otherwise trade as it wouldn't be inviting problems.
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Post#198 » by Foye » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:41 pm

Dewey wrote:
shangrila wrote:
Dewey wrote:Whoever we try to acquire they gotta be a tough MF cause DLo and KAT are … not. These guys are out there but we gotta find a way to coax a couple into this now rat infested city. One thing the Wolves and city have in common is they both lack leadership … big changes needed

It's a shame Crowder turned us down.

Can't blame him, especially with how it all turned out, but he would've been a great pickup in that respect.

Agree…

I’m good bringing in Simmons, but as many have discussed, it’s about what we’d have to give. An elite defender that can handle the ball is helpful for this roster.

DLo, ANT, McD, Simmons, KAT is not too shabby as long as ANT and McD take steps forward.


Lets not pretend that Glen Taylor is going to accept spending 100 mil. per year on the trio of KAT, Simmons and D-Lo for his remaining time as owner.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Seven) 

Post#199 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:45 pm

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:Other than Beasley and Rubio what would we give them? I wouldn’t trade MCD for Simmons and Ant, KAT, and Dlo are all likely off limits. Okogie and a pick might do it, but I have to believe the 76ers are getting better offers than that for Simmons.

Assuming Towns, Edwards and Russell are off-limits as has been reported (and how it should be), the next most valuable assets after Rubio and Beasley are going to be McDaniels, Reid and picks.

I would be extremely hesitant to include McDaniels. I'm more willing to include Reid, though he probably has more value to a third team (Toronto?).


I too thought Reid to TOR would be a great foundation to a 3-team deal, Reid would probably start for them. I actually think there are legs to this, IF Philadelphia wants a guy like Lowery.
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Post#200 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 1, 2021 1:45 pm

Foye wrote:Lets not pretend that Glen Taylor is going to accept spending 100 mil. per year on the trio of KAT, Simmons and D-Lo for his remaining time as owner.

Only $94 million next season.
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