2022 Free Agency

[minimus]

#1 target should be Jalen Smith.

I hope we bring here PF or big wing first.

[SO_MONEY]

#1 target should be Jalen Smith.

I hope we bring here PF or big wing first.

Pardon?

[minimus]

#1 target should be Jalen Smith.

I hope we bring here PF or big wing first.

Pardon?

Pardonne-moi

[SO_MONEY]

I hope we bring here PF or big wing first.

Pardon?

Pardonne-moi

I didn't get what you were trying to say.

Were you saying we should target a PF or big wing "first"?

That confuses me because Jalen Smith is a PF.

[minimus]

Pardon?

Pardonne-moi

I didn't get what you were trying to say.

Were you saying we should target a PF or big wing "first"?

That confuses me because Jalen Smith is a PF.

IMO Jalen Smith doesn't have quickness to be full time PF. There is a reason why he is a UFA.

[SO_MONEY]

Pardonne-moi

I didn't get what you were trying to say.

Were you saying we should target a PF or big wing "first"?

That confuses me because Jalen Smith is a PF.

IMO Jalen Smith doesn't have quickness to be full time PF. There is a reason why he is a UFA.

I think he dispelled most of those concerns and IND probably wishes he wasn't an UFA.

[minimus]

I didn't get what you were trying to say.

Were you saying we should target a PF or big wing "first"?

That confuses me because Jalen Smith is a PF.

IMO Jalen Smith doesn't have quickness to be full time PF. There is a reason why he is a UFA.

I think he dispelled most of those concerns and IND probably wishes he wasn't an UFA.

Time will tell, but I don’t see any reason to make him our #1 goal in this offseason.

[SO_MONEY]

IMO Jalen Smith doesn't have quickness to be full time PF. There is a reason why he is a UFA.

I think he dispelled most of those concerns and IND probably wishes he wasn't an UFA.

Time will tell, but I don’t see any reason to make him our #1 goal in this offseason.

I think the reason is he is the best long-term fit from both an age and needed skills stand point.

[minimus]

I think he dispelled most of those concerns and IND probably wishes he wasn't an UFA.

Time will tell, but I don’t see any reason to make him our #1 goal in this offseason.

I think the reason is he is the best long-term fit from both an age and needed skills stand point.

IMO the best long term fit FA is Kevin Looney, because he:

* - won't be killed on perimeter
* - excellent team and individual defender
* - excellent rebounder
* - good passer
* - set good screens
* - comes with playoff experience

I don't think Jalen Smith is an answer to any our problems at PF, because as PF he is slow footed, poorly coordinated, does not have lateral quickness to rotate. As backup C he is decent, but with Reid and Kessler I would not invest in him. His three point shooting is not a big factor at PF, because to be playable as dedicated stretch four without defense, in playoffs he must be a movement three point shooter, like Davis Bertans.

[younggunsmn]

Looney is a system player, he's not going to look anywhere near as good wherever he ends up going.
He's going to cost the Warriors like 3 or 4 times his salary or more in luxury tax if they re-sign him, so I think he's good as gone and someone will end up giving him 3 years at the MLE. I don't see that as us.
I think our free agents this year will have to be willing to settle for one guaranteed year so we can have max '23 cap space, barring some monster Russell trade where that scenario becomes irrelevant because we take on a multiple year deal.
I think the more likely candidates are going to be guys who are coming off injuries/down years and willing to take a one year deal.

Gary Harris is one idea because he has a track record with Connelly.
Mason Plumlee would be a trade option to watch because he has a history playing next to Jokic and might fit next to KAT because of his passing ability until Kessler is ready. The salary matching isn't great on that, but could work with Beasley going to a 3rd team + player from 3rd team going to CHA. Or spun off as part of a D-Lo trade.

[winforlose]

I have been thinking about this since the draft ended and honestly, we shouldn’t pursue any free agents. That is not to suggest we shouldn’t make trades, or sign and trade Prince. But, we have 15 roster spots and a 10 man rotation. Even if we banish Lea, Moore, and Minott to the G we still don’t even have enough minutes for the guys we want to play. Nowell desperately needs a consistent spot in the rotation. JMAC is a coaches favorite who proved his value when his shot is falling (something that cannot be counted on.) We know that the big 3 are going to get at least 35 minutes per game, and we know Beasley is going to get real minutes. Add to this a need to keep MCD and V8 as involved as possible (both for development and competitive reasons,) I just don’t see where a free agent fits in. Not to mention the tendency of some/most FOs in any given year to keep a roster spot open in case of injury or unexpected developments. I just don’t see where the FA fits in.

[minimus]

Looney is a system player, he's not going to look anywhere near as good wherever he ends up going.
He's going to cost the Warriors like 3 or 4 times his salary or more in luxury tax if they re-sign him, so I think he's good as gone and someone will end up giving him 3 years at the MLE. I don't see that as us.
I think our free agents this year will have to be willing to settle for one guaranteed year so we can have max '23 cap space, barring some monster Russell trade where that scenario becomes irrelevant because we take on a multiple year deal.
I think the more likely candidates are going to be guys who are coming off injuries/down years and willing to take a one year deal.

Gary Harris is one idea because he has a track record with Connelly.
Mason Plumlee would be a trade option to watch because he has a history playing next to Jokic and might fit next to KAT because of his passing ability until Kessler is ready. The salary matching isn't great on that, but could work with Beasley going to a 3rd team + player from 3rd team going to CHA. Or spun off as part of a D-Lo trade.

Yes, Looney is a system player, who played with two best shooters in NBA. Can we offer something close to GSW offence? I believe that we can. Towns is is the best shooting C by far, Ant is developing in this direction. Looney played with Green who shoots under 30% from three point, I think he can play next to Towns. So offer him a full MLE 44/4 and hope he accepts it.

Gary Harris does not make any sense after Moore draft, plus we already have logjam at SG.
Mason Plumlee does not make any sense after Kessler draft, we are not in win-now mode, let Kessler get these minutes.

I'd target PFs, comboforwards who are relatively young and won't cost multiple assets / resources. But the list is indeed short:

Looney
PJ Washington
Cam Reddish
TP
Kyle Anderson

I'd avoid any declining players such as:

Gary Harris
Morris brothers
Montrez Harrell
JaMychal Green

I also believe we should not invest our playing time in veterans such as:

Tucker
Bjelica
Otto Porter
Byomb

My ideal scenario would be getting Looney for 44/4 and resigning TP for 20/2 mil (15+5 second year team option).

[Neeva]

Don’t think Reddish can play PF.

[minimus]

Don’t think Reddish can play PF.

Sure, not full time. He is a big wing. But I want to see a bench unit with Kessler-Reddish-MCD-Moore-Bolmaro with four guys chasing everyone on perimeter with Kessler playing backbone, cementing defense in the paint

[winforlose]

Don’t think Reddish can play PF.

Sure, not full time. He is a big wing. But I want to see a bench unit with Kessler-Reddish-MCD-Moore-Bolmaro with four guys chasing everyone on perimeter with Kessler playing backbone, cementing defense in the paint

The lineup has potential, but Lea needs to develop some offense for it to work. As I stated in a different thread, two none shooters doesn’t work.

[minimus]

Don’t think Reddish can play PF.

Sure, not full time. He is a big wing. But I want to see a bench unit with Kessler-Reddish-MCD-Moore-Bolmaro with four guys chasing everyone on perimeter with Kessler playing backbone, cementing defense in the paint

The lineup has potential, but Lea needs to develop some offense for it to work. As I stated in a different thread, two none shooters doesn’t work.

Yeah, but somehow I have a lot of faith in Bolmaro, this boy is a baller

[LibertyPrime]

Taj Gibson waived....if he clears waivers, would you sign him for the vet min?

[SO_MONEY]

Time will tell, but I don’t see any reason to make him our #1 goal in this offseason.

I think the reason is he is the best long-term fit from both an age and needed skills stand point.

IMO the best long term fit FA is Kevin Looney, because he:

* - won't be killed on perimeter
* - excellent team and individual defender
* - excellent rebounder
* - good passer rebounder
* - set good screens
* - comes with playoff experience

I don't think Jalen Smith is an answer to any our problems at PF, because as PF he is slow footed, poorly coordinated, does not have lateral quickness to rotate. As backup C he is decent, but with Reid and Kessler I would not invest in him. His three point shooting is not a big factor at PF, because to be playable as dedicated stretch four without defense, in playoffs he must be a movement three point shooter, like Davis Bertans.

I guess I don't see Looney as gettable or offensively skilled enough to fit with how the roster is rounding out.

[Wolves21]

I would love to bring in Looney and think him with Kessler would be a great combo going forward at center.Really helps to solve our problem with defense,rebounding and shoot blocking and also moves what I've thought sense they day he was draft Towns to his natural position of PF.

If and when we trade D-Lo finding someone else that can score isn't the issue we need to address with Ant,Towns,McDaniels,Beasley,Nowell...ect on the roster.If the rumors of a possible Murray deal actually happen(D'Lo,Moore,picks)the line up would be,

Murray/Beverly
ANT/Beasley
McDaniels/McDermott
Towns/V8
Looney/Kessler

On paper if ANT takes the next step that could be a title contender.

[minimus]

What happened to Derrick Jones Jr? We tried to sign him in the past, but his stats in CHI look bad. Should we offer him BAE?