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Post#181 » by urinesane » Mon May 15, 2023 6:38 pm

Neeva wrote:
Calinks wrote:Think Suns firing Monty is a mistake. Coaches get the boot as soon as a team takes a step back.


Except in Minnesota


and Memphis
and San Antonio
and New York (last season)
and Miami in 2014-2015/2016-2017/2018-2019
and Golden State 2019-2020/2020-2021

etc.

The Wolves are finally showing the willingness to have stability/continuity and the rubes give em sh*t for it. Classic.
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#182 » by TimberKat » Tue May 16, 2023 2:09 am

Battletrigger wrote:
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Battletrigger wrote:If we could trade Towns for Brown we have to do it in a heartbreak. Plus if we could obtain Smart that would be awesome.


That's never going to happen tho.


Last year were talkings Smart for Beasley+1st. I was a big fan of that trade.

And Wolves rejected, that could have had sense unless cause you gave 5 first and 5 players for Gobert.

Did Wolves really reject that trade? It seems like a no brainer to get Smart for a #1. I don't think BOS would have done that.
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Post#183 » by TimberKat » Tue May 16, 2023 2:11 am

Calinks wrote:Dammit I wanted a Jokic vs Embiid finals.

You get Jokic vs (RW3 + Horford). Isn't two centers better than one? :D
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#184 » by TimberKat » Tue May 16, 2023 2:24 am

Calinks wrote:Not gonna make this a bigs can't win thing, as I have said they can but its a lot harder and it bothers me.

It pisses me off. The Celtics are playing ancient Al Horford and some so-so centers, the Sixers have Embiid, the MVP and probably the most unguardable player in the league, yet Boston is just blowing them out of the water having an MVP center just helps keep Philly alive enough to compete.

I know Boston is a great team but I just wish Centers had more impact in the game and the rules didn't disadvantage them so much. Embiid should be able to crush that frontcourt but the rules don't favor a big using their size and strength like they used to. Shaq talks a lot of trash about modern bigs but he would be so handcuffed compared to wings in this era.

Celtics got a better team and the Sixers did really well this series until the end but to me it's so overwhelmingly advantageous to go all in on wing players and just get a decent center. The rules have really crippled the effectiveness of a n elite big man in the NBA playoffs.

I think Embiid was hurt or something. 76ers stopped going to Embiid in the 4th qtr of game 6. I didn't watch games 7 as we finally got golf season started in Minnesota. Embiid's stats looked really bad in game 7.
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#185 » by TimberKat » Tue May 16, 2023 2:37 am

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Worm Guts wrote:
papertrail wrote:
A lazy selfish player that played a huge role in getting them from 13th to 7th position. It doesn't matter if he shot 1-9 in that game. He played great in the games before that which put the Lakers in the position to beat you in that play in game. Keep drinking that copium, I guess.


You’re the one who explicitly brought up the play in game. Anyway Dlo isn’t a winning player. I think Lebron and AD probably have a little more to do with the Lakers success.


I brought the play in game because the DLo trade made it possible for Lakers to get into that position in the first place. How hard is that for you to understand?

Lebron barely played after the trade deadline because of his injury. It was AD, DLo and the rest of the guys. And they also had the number one defense during that stretch. So yeah, Dlo is a winning player. Too bad there aren't many on this team coz if they did, Wolves would still be in the playoffs right now.

I think the Lakers season started to turn around when Schroder arrived, Reaves started to play better and they got Hachimura. DLo is a better fit than Westbrook and Vanderbilt played some good minutes for them. I think they would still made the playoffs had they kept Westbrook or Conley.
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#186 » by urinesane » Tue May 16, 2023 5:19 pm

Battletrigger wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:If we could trade Towns for Brown we have to do it in a heartbreak. Plus if we could obtain Smart that would be awesome.


That's never going to happen tho.


Last year were talkings Smart for Beasley+1st. I was a big fan of that trade.

And Wolves rejected, that could have had sense unless cause you gave 5 first and 5 players for Gobert.


Were you in those conversations? No?

Ok, then they are just rumors until you can prove otherwise. Reporting on rumors, talks of, someone wrote a tweet about, etc doesn't mean anything. It's just words someone tricked you into reading to sell ad space until you prove otherwise.

The worst part of this forum (and basketball fans in general) is the acting as if trade rumors or "talks" were somehow based in reality or actually on the table/passed on, but of course OUR franchise made the wrong decision AGAIN.

Keep rumors to rumor threads, not as hot air to hold up your flimsy opinions.

There is ZERO chance the Wolves would have passed on Beasley+1st for Smart. It would have effectively turned Robert Convington, Jordan Bell, Keita-Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, and Noah Vonleh + a 1st into Marcus Smart, Jarred Vanderbilt, and Juancho Hernangomez and the Hawks 2020 FRP.

Let's at least talk about things based in reality.
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Post#187 » by Calinks » Tue May 16, 2023 5:24 pm

The Celtics, I don't know what it is, they bore me for some reason. I just have a hard time getting interested in them. I hope to see a Denver vs Boston final and I hope the Nuggets win. I wouldn't hate seeing the Lakers do it either cause it would be neat to see those former wolves guys get rings.

I hope Beas and Vando get to go off against their former team for a game or two.
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#188 » by Battletrigger » Tue May 16, 2023 10:56 pm

urinesane wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
Note30 wrote:
That's never going to happen tho.


Last year were talkings Smart for Beasley+1st. I was a big fan of that trade.

And Wolves rejected, that could have had sense unless cause you gave 5 first and 5 players for Gobert.


Were you in those conversations? No?

Ok, then they are just rumors until you can prove otherwise. Reporting on rumors, talks of, someone wrote a tweet about, etc doesn't mean anything. It's just words someone tricked you into reading to sell ad space until you prove otherwise.

The worst part of this forum (and basketball fans in general) is the acting as if trade rumors or "talks" were somehow based in reality or actually on the table/passed on, but of course OUR franchise made the wrong decision AGAIN.

Keep rumors to rumor threads, not as hot air to hold up your flimsy opinions.

There is ZERO chance the Wolves would have passed on Beasley+1st for Smart. It would have effectively turned Robert Convington, Jordan Bell, Keita-Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, and Noah Vonleh + a 1st into Marcus Smart, Jarred Vanderbilt, and Juancho Hernangomez and the Hawks 2020 FRP.

Let's at least talk about things based in reality.


I can write wathever I want in any post, you are nobody to tell me otherwise. If you don't like it, there is a warning bottom just in the right corner of my post.

I know that you like to act so cocky, it's a internet forum and I am miles of kilometres away from you, in all forum there are troll rats. It must be so hard to act so rude for your five internet minutes of attention, but the reality is that I can make wathever I want.

It's known that you are a hard fanboy that likes to swallow it to the end and no let even one drop fall but that not means all of us enjoys that kind of fetish.

And if you have this kind of problem answering in an internet forum to opinions that you disagree, man, how sad it's your live.
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#189 » by urinesane » Wed May 17, 2023 12:06 am

Battletrigger wrote:
urinesane wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
Last year were talkings Smart for Beasley+1st. I was a big fan of that trade.

And Wolves rejected, that could have had sense unless cause you gave 5 first and 5 players for Gobert.


Were you in those conversations? No?

Ok, then they are just rumors until you can prove otherwise. Reporting on rumors, talks of, someone wrote a tweet about, etc doesn't mean anything. It's just words someone tricked you into reading to sell ad space until you prove otherwise.

The worst part of this forum (and basketball fans in general) is the acting as if trade rumors or "talks" were somehow based in reality or actually on the table/passed on, but of course OUR franchise made the wrong decision AGAIN.

Keep rumors to rumor threads, not as hot air to hold up your flimsy opinions.

There is ZERO chance the Wolves would have passed on Beasley+1st for Smart. It would have effectively turned Robert Convington, Jordan Bell, Keita-Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, and Noah Vonleh + a 1st into Marcus Smart, Jarred Vanderbilt, and Juancho Hernangomez and the Hawks 2020 FRP.

Let's at least talk about things based in reality.


I can write wathever I want in any post, you are nobody to tell me otherwise. If you don't like it, there is a warning bottom just in the right corner of my post.

I know that you like to act so cocky, it's a internet forum and I am miles of kilometres away from you, in all forum there are troll rats. It must be so hard to act so rude for your five internet minutes of attention, but the reality is that I can make wathever I want.

It's known that you are a hard fanboy that likes to swallow it to the end and no let even one drop fall but that not means all of us enjoys that kind of fetish.

And if you have this kind of problem answering in an internet forum to opinions that you disagree, man, how sad it's your live.



You're right, you can make things up and then argue against them all you want, but it doesn't make them relevant to anything in this conversation. In the "2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread" you decided to make a false argument just to get in another jab about the Gobert trade. It's off topic AND it's basically you just having a conversation with yourself.

Just because I don't come on here to be miserable about a team that has historically sucked a$s doesn't mean I'm a fanboy. Though if there is only a choice between being an angry dork on the internet (like you) vs a "hard fanboy" I'd take the latter. At least I wouldn't be going out of my way to get upset about things outside of my control.

Please keep in mind that YOU also have the option to ignore/not read my posts.
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Re: 2023 Around The League NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#190 » by TimberKat » Wed May 17, 2023 2:16 am

Today is usually the most exciting day of the Twolves season because Twolves seasons are like training for Kentucky Derby. You grind and grind all winter trying to get into the Pole position. Follow by days of build up, then 2 minutes of excitement that typically end in disappointment like the rights to caged lions. I kinda miss that.

Then again maybe not because once again the NBA fixed the lottery for SAS. They tank like 3 times in the century and every time they end up with a can’t miss #1. I am glad to see HOU and Jazz will continue their process for many years to come.
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Post#191 » by Neeva » Wed May 17, 2023 2:19 am

I feel for houston though, they have been the worst team for three straight seasons and ended up with chuckers if they take Amen Thompson.I thought Green would be better than he has been though.
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Post#192 » by Calinks » Wed May 17, 2023 2:24 am

I've changed my mind. Towns 1 on 1 defense on Jokic was ELITE in retrospect lol!
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Post#193 » by TimberKat » Wed May 17, 2023 2:42 am

Calinks wrote:I've changed my mind. Towns 1 on 1 defense on Jokic was ELITE in retrospect lol!

DEN is a bad match up for LAL. I see Jokic out play Davis and Gordon should be able to guard LBJ. I wish Towns could just do a little more LBJ when he has a smaller guy on him, he dribbles to the post up position. The bigger question is are the Lakers playing small ball? :D
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Post#194 » by TimberKat » Wed May 17, 2023 3:29 am

Man, Lakers actually made a game out of it. Could we end up with a LAL vs BOS finals? I am sure Adam Silver loves that.
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Post#195 » by Calinks » Wed May 17, 2023 3:33 am

Reaves is a damn ELITE roll player. Good God that kid hits big shots and makes big plays.
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Post#196 » by urinesane » Wed May 17, 2023 5:52 am

TimberKat wrote:
Calinks wrote:Not gonna make this a bigs can't win thing, as I have said they can but its a lot harder and it bothers me.

It pisses me off. The Celtics are playing ancient Al Horford and some so-so centers, the Sixers have Embiid, the MVP and probably the most unguardable player in the league, yet Boston is just blowing them out of the water having an MVP center just helps keep Philly alive enough to compete.

I know Boston is a great team but I just wish Centers had more impact in the game and the rules didn't disadvantage them so much. Embiid should be able to crush that frontcourt but the rules don't favor a big using their size and strength like they used to. Shaq talks a lot of trash about modern bigs but he would be so handcuffed compared to wings in this era.

Celtics got a better team and the Sixers did really well this series until the end but to me it's so overwhelmingly advantageous to go all in on wing players and just get a decent center. The rules have really crippled the effectiveness of a n elite big man in the NBA playoffs.

I think Embiid was hurt or something. 76ers stopped going to Embiid in the 4th qtr of game 6. I didn't watch games 7 as we finally got golf season started in Minnesota. Embiid's stats looked really bad in game 7.


I think as constructed PHI is too top heavy. Harden has shown to be too streaky to count on, so it comes down to minimizing Embiid's impact and forcing someone else on PHI to step it up. Boston has a much more balanced roster with more guys capable of picking up the slack when someone is off (and unlike with Harden they can still be + defenders when their shot isn't falling vs Harden being a massive negative pretty much always).

Playoff Harden is eerily similar to playoff DLo. Either he is great or he is terrible with nothing in between.

First Round:

G1: 8/21 FG (38%)
G2: 3/13 FG (23%)
G3: 8/15 FG (53%)
G4: 4/18 FG (22%)

He played terrible, but PHI is a way deeper team than Brooklyn, so they still swept despite his bad performances.

Second Round:
G1: 17/30 FG (57%)
G2: 2/14 FG (14%)
G3: 3/14 FG (21%)
G4: 16/23 FG (70%)
G5: 4/8 FG (50%)
G6: 4/16 FG (25%)
G7: 3/11 FG (27%)

Guess which games in the second round they won and which games they lost? Meanwhile Embiid is catching mountains of sh*t for not playing up to regular season MVP form and somehow Harden doesn't get nearly as much heat (though he clearly was terrible). If you take away game 3 in the 1st round, and games 1, 4, and 5 of the second round, in 7 games during the playoff this year he shot 27/107 (25%). In the games he actually shot decent he was 45/76 (59%).

I don't care if you have an MVP, if your second star puts up those numbers you are screwed.

Not sure why Houston would want him back tbh.
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Post#197 » by life_saver » Wed May 17, 2023 4:54 pm

Jokic is insane..I feel like I have been saying the same line for the last month.
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Post#198 » by Dewey » Fri May 19, 2023 1:19 am

clearly DLo was a good riddance… lakers struggling to find 10 minutes for him
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Post#199 » by Neeva » Fri May 19, 2023 2:26 am

Dewey wrote:clearly DLo was a good riddance… lakers struggling to find 10 minutes for him


I am sure he will have 1 great shooting game where his stans will come out of hiding and gloat but I am soo happy the Wolves don’t have the decision of extending/overpaying DLO this offseason.
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Post#200 » by theGreatRC » Fri May 19, 2023 3:15 am

The Wolves must've been in Denver these past 2 games because DLO was held back again
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