Round 1: LAL

[Klomp]

Yes we can win regardless, but with a prime Pop (or some other elite coach,) we are not 6th, and we leave a lot less doubt.

And what available coach falls into that category?

[BlacJacMac]

Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will.

Why do you think we had an absolutely absurd # of open 3s in games 1-4?

I'd give this a watch.

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[winforlose]

Yes we can win regardless, but with a prime Pop (or some other elite coach,) we are not 6th, and we leave a lot less doubt.

And what available coach falls into that category?

I have no clue. I don’t watch enough other teams to know who has it. But I watch enough of this one to see the clear flaws in everything from motivation, to game plan, to substitution pattern, and beyond. We should have swept and blown them out by 20+ in each of the 4. For context their only win they scored 94 points. I love the win and will love the ride, but one day I hope you understand how good this team can be, and when you do, maybe you will look back and ask why it took so long to get there.

[Guest84]

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[Loaf_of_bread]

Could someone help me out with how to post Youtube videos? Video from account "Anthony edwards" from 7 hrs ago is fantastic

[Klomp]

Could someone help me out with how to post Youtube videos? Video from account "Anthony edwards" from 7 hrs ago is fantastic

Just copy/paste the link, it will automatically add the tags around it. The video is also already in the Ant thread.

[Rookie-Mistake]

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Wasn't there someone very vocal in the fire finch forum saying that finch can't be accredited with coaching us to a series win?

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Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will. I look at the way Jaden didn’t exploit the mismatches in games 2 and 4 and I think that is a great way to extend a series instead of sweep one. I look at the way we blew quarters in close wins and I ask would a good coach have better demonstrated the true talent disparity involved here?

Remember I am the guy who said months ago that we get to the WCF against anyone so long as we avoid OKC. I am also the guy who said the only way LAL beats us is with an unfair whistle. I view Finch as driving a high end sports car and treating it like a minivan. Yes we can win regardless, but with a prime Pop (or some other elite coach,) we are not 6th, and we leave a lot less doubt.

I don't know you personally from a bar of soap, but your comments come across as extremely negative and pessimistic, and views on coaching are way too unrealistic.

I would like to know, have you ever coached any basketball team ever? If so, at what level and what places your ideology above all?

And with all of Finchs flaws (im not saying he is perfect, no one is), who do you propose to be the heir apparent?

As I mentioned earlier, we have never ever gone back to back first round playoff series wins. In the history of this club, it is a time for celebration that we aren't the **** kickers of the league anymore and as a die hard wolves fan it's time to get around everyone and that includes the coach that largely has orchestrated this.

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[Loaf_of_bread]

Wasn't there someone very vocal in the fire finch forum saying that finch can't be accredited with coaching us to a series win?

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Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will. I look at the way Jaden didn’t exploit the mismatches in games 2 and 4 and I think that is a great way to extend a series instead of sweep one. I look at the way we blew quarters in close wins and I ask would a good coach have better demonstrated the true talent disparity involved here?

Remember I am the guy who said months ago that we get to the WCF against anyone so long as we avoid OKC. I am also the guy who said the only way LAL beats us is with an unfair whistle. I view Finch as driving a high end sports car and treating it like a minivan. Yes we can win regardless, but with a prime Pop (or some other elite coach,) we are not 6th, and we leave a lot less doubt.

I don't know you personally from a bar of soap, but your comments come across as extremely negative and pessimistic, and views on coaching are way too unrealistic.

I would like to know, have you ever coached any basketball team ever? If so, at what level and what places your ideology above all?

And with all of Finchs flaws (im not saying he is perfect, no one is), who do you propose to be the heir apparent?

As I mentioned earlier, we have never ever gone back to back first round playoff series wins. In the history of this club, it is a time for celebration that we aren't the **** kickers of the league anymore and as a die hard wolves fan it's time to get around everyone and that includes the coach that largely has orchestrated this.

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Lmao, bro this is a forum of wolves fans.

Don't take anything posted so seriously.

[winforlose]

Wasn't there someone very vocal in the fire finch forum saying that finch can't be accredited with coaching us to a series win?

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Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will. I look at the way Jaden didn’t exploit the mismatches in games 2 and 4 and I think that is a great way to extend a series instead of sweep one. I look at the way we blew quarters in close wins and I ask would a good coach have better demonstrated the true talent disparity involved here?

Remember I am the guy who said months ago that we get to the WCF against anyone so long as we avoid OKC. I am also the guy who said the only way LAL beats us is with an unfair whistle. I view Finch as driving a high end sports car and treating it like a minivan. Yes we can win regardless, but with a prime Pop (or some other elite coach,) we are not 6th, and we leave a lot less doubt.

I don't know you personally from a bar of soap, but your comments come across as extremely negative and pessimistic, and views on coaching are way too unrealistic.

I would like to know, have you ever coached any basketball team ever? If so, at what level and what places your ideology above all?

And with all of Finchs flaws (im not saying he is perfect, no one is), who do you propose to be the heir apparent?

As I mentioned earlier, we have never ever gone back to back first round playoff series wins. In the history of this club, it is a time for celebration that we aren't the **** kickers of the league anymore and as a die hard wolves fan it's time to get around everyone and that includes the coach that largely has orchestrated this.

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1. No significant coaching experience.

2. I called us going to the WCF months ago. That is neither pessimistic nor negative (though I don’t favor us against OKC.)

3. I am not asking for perfect, I am asking for Finch to do the basics better. Better timeout calls, better scheme to exploit mismatches, ect..

I think we have enough talent to win multiple chips, but that requires the correct coach. We just don’t have that yet.

[Ethomasp31]

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I said before the series started the Wolves would win in 5 or 6 games and felt very confident about it, and a big reason was because of the disrespect ANT was feeling he was getting. The LAL had three of the top players in the series including the top 2. Everyone picking the LAL ANT saying the the Lakers were the favorite just confirmed it for me. I feel pretty confident about the next series too...especially if it's the GSW. The Wolves play well as underdogs...playing the GSW would have a lot of people picking them. Plus we would have the HCA. I still think we beat the Rockets, but it will be a longer series. I think they beat GSW in 5 and Houston in 6. I also am changing my mind about OKC. I think we match up well against them and have decent shot to pull that upset. I wonder if we had that poll out know on which team would win a playoff series, last years or this year, how much different it would be. For the record, I picked this years.

[shrink]

I would settle for national media people catching themselves when talking about Jaden McDaniels. The guy basically won two games for us and they keep calling him Jaden Daniels.

Technically they're calling him Jayden....as in Washington Commanders QB Jayden Daniels. It's easy to slip up names when they're so similar, just ask shrink....

I know, but the spelling difference isn’t necessary in the post. Hence “catch themselves” when mixing them up. Kinda like Britt calling Julius, John.

LOL! And we talk about how good the Randle McDaniels combo has been, my mind goes to Randall McDaniel.

I’m just lucky I’m not a Thunder fan!

[winforlose]

Technically they're calling him Jayden....as in Washington Commanders QB Jayden Daniels. It's easy to slip up names when they're so similar, just ask shrink....

I know, but the spelling difference isn’t necessary in the post. Hence “catch themselves” when mixing them up. Kinda like Britt calling Julius, John.

LOL! And we talk about how good the Randle McDaniels combo has been, my mind goes to Randall McDaniel.

I’m just lucky I’m not a Thunder fan!

My mind goes there too. That part is just plain being human. But Jaden has earned the right for them to get it right on air.

[KGdaBom]

I know, but the spelling difference isn’t necessary in the post. Hence “catch themselves” when mixing them up. Kinda like Britt calling Julius, John.

LOL! And we talk about how good the Randle McDaniels combo has been, my mind goes to Randall McDaniel.

I’m just lucky I’m not a Thunder fan!

My mind goes there too. That part is just plain being human. But Jaden has earned the right for them to get it right on air.

One of these clips or a post game interview I heard the commentator calling him Jalen. Jaden did not correct him.

[BlacJacMac]

Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will.

Why do you think we had an absolutely absurd # of open 3s in games 1-4?

I'd give this a watch.

Watch on YouTube

More. This kid is really sharp. Worth a subscription.

Watch on YouTube

[Loaf_of_bread]

Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will.

Why do you think we had an absolutely absurd # of open 3s in games 1-4?

I'd give this a watch.

Watch on YouTube

More. This kid is really sharp. Worth a subscription.

Watch on YouTube

Agree, all of his content is great.

[winforlose]

Me for one!!! I don’t look at that series and see a masterclass in coaching. I see Rudy in games 1-4 as a shell of what he should be. I look at game 5 as what should have been happening all along. Who on the Lakers can actually guard or box out Rudy? If they are overwhelming him with bodies than other guys should be getting in their and putting 2nd chance points at will.

Why do you think we had an absolutely absurd # of open 3s in games 1-4?

I'd give this a watch.

Watch on YouTube

More. This kid is really sharp. Worth a subscription.

Watch on YouTube

I watched both videos. I agree Rudy was very defensively impactful in the series. But the numbers are simply 14 points and 25 rebounds total in games 1-4. Against a team that basically played Lebron and Rui Hachimura at C this is… not optimal. Likewise Jaden had a lot of exploitable matchups and was not a major focus of the offense in games 2 or 4 (to some degree game 5 as well, but foul trouble clouds that,) and this too was… questionable.

My entire point was that you can have a significant talent advantage to the point where you can win while not playing well. That was us in this series. But do you honestly we didn’t leave a lot of meat on the bone? If yes would that have been the case with better game planning?

[BlacJacMac]

If we shoot anywhere near what we did during the season, the series is a blowout.

I know you’re going to say a better coach would’ve had us attacking the basket when shots weren’t falling. But the Lakers were packing the paint to prevent that.

[KGdaBom]

Why do you think we had an absolutely absurd # of open 3s in games 1-4?

I'd give this a watch.

Watch on YouTube

More. This kid is really sharp. Worth a subscription.

Watch on YouTube

I watched both videos. I agree Rudy was very defensively impactful in the series. But the numbers are simply 14 points and 25 rebounds total in games 1-4. Against a team that basically played Lebron and Rui Hachimura at C this is… not optimal. Likewise Jaden had a lot of exploitable matchups and was not a major focus of the offense in games 2 or 4 (to some degree game 5 as well, but foul trouble clouds that,) and this too was… questionable.

My entire point was that you can have a significant talent advantage to the point where you can win while not playing well. That was us in this series. But do you honestly we didn’t leave a lot of meat on the bone? If yes would that have been the case with better game planning?

Every game that every team ever plays they leave a lot of meat on the bone. Winning is all that matters. I might give a rat's ass about winning pretty, but not much more than that.

[winforlose]

More. This kid is really sharp. Worth a subscription.

Watch on YouTube

I watched both videos. I agree Rudy was very defensively impactful in the series. But the numbers are simply 14 points and 25 rebounds total in games 1-4. Against a team that basically played Lebron and Rui Hachimura at C this is… not optimal. Likewise Jaden had a lot of exploitable matchups and was not a major focus of the offense in games 2 or 4 (to some degree game 5 as well, but foul trouble clouds that,) and this too was… questionable.

My entire point was that you can have a significant talent advantage to the point where you can win while not playing well. That was us in this series. But do you honestly we didn’t leave a lot of meat on the bone? If yes would that have been the case with better game planning?

Every game that every team ever plays they leave a lot of meat on the bone. Winning is all that matters. I might give a rat's ass about winning pretty, but not much more than that.

If you think I am talking about winning pretty, then you are not following my point. Exploiting mismatches and getting players to play to their potential is a sign of good coaching. Rudy had a massive mismatch and did not exploit it 4 out of 5 games. We need to exploit them against OKC or whoever comes out of the East. We overwhelmed the Lakers with our talent advantage, something I think we can/will do again to GSW. But, that only works when the team isn’t as good as you. OKC is every bit as good as us, so is Cleveland/Boston. For them we need good coaching or we are in serious jeopardy.

[KGdaBom]

I watched both videos. I agree Rudy was very defensively impactful in the series. But the numbers are simply 14 points and 25 rebounds total in games 1-4. Against a team that basically played Lebron and Rui Hachimura at C this is… not optimal. Likewise Jaden had a lot of exploitable matchups and was not a major focus of the offense in games 2 or 4 (to some degree game 5 as well, but foul trouble clouds that,) and this too was… questionable.

My entire point was that you can have a significant talent advantage to the point where you can win while not playing well. That was us in this series. But do you honestly we didn’t leave a lot of meat on the bone? If yes would that have been the case with better game planning?

Every game that every team ever plays they leave a lot of meat on the bone. Winning is all that matters. I might give a rat's ass about winning pretty, but not much more than that.

If you think I am talking about winning pretty, then you are not following my point. Exploiting mismatches and getting players to play to their potential is a sign of good coaching. Rudy had a massive mismatch and did not exploit it 4 out of 5 games. We need to exploit them against OKC or whoever comes out of the East. We overwhelmed the Lakers with our talent advantage, something I think we can/will do again to GSW. But, that only works when the team isn’t as good as you. OKC is every bit as good as us, so is Cleveland/Boston. For them we need good coaching or we are in serious jeopardy.

Whenever we don't play as well as you think we should you figure it is because Finch sucks.