Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[KGdaBom]

I never thought I would say this. But Ja might be the answer. And Mike gets to finish his career in Memphis. Deadline trade.

Randle, Mike, and Rob
for
Ja and Scottie Pippen Jr.

Ja/Ant/Jaden/Naz/Rudy
Trade DDV for a big
Trade Miller for cheap vet PG
vet PG/Clark/TSJ/DDV TRADE/JB

Unless Morant has another gun issue - that offer doesn’t get Ja’s cousin.

I mean, can we try and be realistic with what Wolves have to offer.

Ja is such a POS. His Idea of fun is aiming a laser sight at opposing team players after the game. That is a legit threat on somebody's life.

[Domejandro]

Atlanta does not own their picks, so it makes them a weird team to trade with, but if Nickeil Alexander-Walker becomes available, Minnesota should sniff around with Mike Conley, Rob Dillingham, and seconds. They would probably want Donte DiVincenzo instead, but I would prefer just adding value to the Mike Conley framework.

Not a sexy trade at all (I don’t see Atlanta having interest, barring a horrific start), but NAW would fully lean Minnesota into a defensive identity.

(Actual positions tweaked a bit just for cosmetic reasons, you guys know the actual minutes depth-chart. Maybe start Donte still, but whatever.)
Nickeil Alexander Walker / Donte DiVincenzo / Bones Hyland
Anthony Edwards / Jaylen Clark /
Jaden McDaniels / Terrence Shannon Jr. /
Julius Randle / Naz Reid / Leonard Miller
Rudy Gobert / Joan Beringer
2WP: Rocco Zikarsky, Enrique Freeman, and Johnny Juzang

Not thrilling (and frankly, I think the team needs a consolidating trade), but increasing depth without sacrificing continuity would be great.

[winforlose]

Atlanta does not own their picks, so it makes them a weird team to trade with, but if Nickeil Alexander-Walker becomes available, Minnesota should sniff around with Mike Conley, Rob Dillingham, and seconds. They would probably want Donte DiVincenzo instead, but I would prefer just adding value to the Mike Conley framework.

Not sure Mike is okay being traded. We promised him we would not, and I fear breaking that promise. Also I don’t think Dilly has much trade value. Finally, NAW is probably in their long term plans. I am not sure we have a realistic path to getting him back. Or that Finch is willing to bury TJ and Clark if he could have NAW back.

[Domejandro]

Atlanta does not own their picks, so it makes them a weird team to trade with, but if Nickeil Alexander-Walker becomes available, Minnesota should sniff around with Mike Conley, Rob Dillingham, and seconds. They would probably want Donte DiVincenzo instead, but I would prefer just adding value to the Mike Conley framework.

Not sure Mike is okay being traded. We promised him we would not, and I fear breaking that promise. Also I don’t think Dilly has much trade value. Finally, NAW is probably in their long term plans. I am not sure we have a realistic path to getting him back. Or that Finch is willing to bury TJ and Clark if he could have NAW back.

I love Mike Conley, but he is being paid at a rate where he has to understand that it is a business. He has been traded before, he is a professional. It would be different if he just signed on a minimum, but I don’t think that his salary can be ruled out as a trade piece.

I fully agree that it probably wouldn’t interest Atlanta, it would definitely be reliant on Atlanta having a cataclysmic start to the season.

[Klomp]

Donte for Jaden Ivey
Donte for Davion Mitchell
Donte for Quentin Grimes
Donte for Bennedict Mathurin
Donte for Anthony Black

[minimus]

Donte for Jaden Ivey
Donte for Davion Mitchell
Donte for Quentin Grimes
Donte for Bennedict Mathurin
Donte for Anthony Black

That was quick!

P.S. I wonder why TJ looks like more explosive Anthony Black without afro. I mean playing style and physical appearance.

[shrink]

I never thought I would say this. But Ja might be the answer.

I just heard a podcast today saying a Ja trade would really help MIN

[Klomp]

Donte for Jaden Ivey
Donte for Davion Mitchell
Donte for Quentin Grimes
Donte for Bennedict Mathurin
Donte for Anthony Black

That was quick!

I have always believed that if there is a trade before the deadline, it’s going to be Donte.
-He’s the least ingratiated in the community
-He is on a team friendly contract, but yet a small enough dollar amount that’s easy to move.
-He has built up enough equity around the league in his career that I don’t see his value dropping at any point.


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[KGdaBom]

I never thought I would say this. But Ja might be the answer.

I just heard a podcast today saying a Ja trade would really help MIN

How much of a POS does a player have to be before we cross him off consideration. Ja is a POS. At least he was last time I checked. What's changed?

[shrink]

I never thought I would say this. But Ja might be the answer.

I just heard a podcast today saying a Ja trade would really help MIN

How much of a POS does a player have to be before we cross him off consideration. Ja is a POS. At least he was last time I checked. What's changed?

Rosas signed Malik Beasley right after he threatened people with a gun. Kobe’s a rapist, and probably Derek Rise too.

I’m no fan of it, but the NBA and its fans look the other way on a lot of horrible stuff if a guy has enough talent to help you win.

[jpatrick]

I just can’t see Ja. On the court, when he plays, he’s incredible. But the baggage. So much baggage. Plus he is injury prone with a big contract.

If the Celtics implode, Derrick White. If the Pacers implode, maybe they’re willing to tank this year as they wait for Halliburton to come back, so Nembhard. Message board favorite, Colby White, although I hate to trade for guys in the last year of their deal.

We’ll wait till closer to the deadline, but I think our lack of playable PG is going to kill us against better teams.

[KGdaBom]

I just heard a podcast today saying a Ja trade would really help MIN

How much of a POS does a player have to be before we cross him off consideration. Ja is a POS. At least he was last time I checked. What's changed?

Rosas signed Malik Beasley right after he threatened people with a gun. Kobe’s a rapist, and probably Derek Rise too.

I’m no fan of it, but the NBA and its fans look the other way on a lot of horrible stuff if a guy has enough talent to help you win.

For me Ja is beyond my threshold of tolerance. I wouldn't have signed Beasley either. I'm not a Kobe fan, but if I had to decide rapist or not on the evidence available I don't think I could convict. I know nothing about the Derek Rose situation.

[minimus]

ORL IN: DDV, Diabate
ORL OUT: Bitadze, Black

CHA IN: Dillingham, Miller
CHA OUT: McNeeley

MIN IN: Bitadze, Black, McNeeley
MIN OUT: DDV, Dillingham, Miller

Gobert/Bitadze/Reid/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/Reid/McDaniel + Freeman
McDaniels/TJ/McNeeley + Juzang
Edwards/Clark/Black
Black/Conley/Hyland

[frankenwolf]

How much of a POS does a player have to be before we cross him off consideration. Ja is a POS. At least he was last time I checked. What's changed?

Rosas signed Malik Beasley right after he threatened people with a gun. Kobe’s a rapist, and probably Derek Rise too.

I’m no fan of it, but the NBA and its fans look the other way on a lot of horrible stuff if a guy has enough talent to help you win.

For me Ja is beyond my threshold of tolerance. I wouldn't have signed Beasley either. I'm not a Kobe fan, but if I had to decide rapist or not on the evidence available I don't think I could convict. I know nothing about the Derek Rose situation.

Rose was accused of raping a young lady, but the charges were withdrawn. There was a ton of talk about how "that scumbag" shouldn't be playing. I am of the opinion that it probably didn't happen, since they dropped the charges, but I have no inside information one way or the other.

[minimus]

Why Davion Mitchell was traded last year, basically for nothing?

[KGdaBom]

Rosas signed Malik Beasley right after he threatened people with a gun. Kobe’s a rapist, and probably Derek Rise too.

I’m no fan of it, but the NBA and its fans look the other way on a lot of horrible stuff if a guy has enough talent to help you win.

For me Ja is beyond my threshold of tolerance. I wouldn't have signed Beasley either. I'm not a Kobe fan, but if I had to decide rapist or not on the evidence available I don't think I could convict. I know nothing about the Derek Rose situation.

Rose was accused of raping a young lady, but the charges were withdrawn. There was a ton of talk about how "that scumbag" shouldn't be playing. I am of the opinion that it probably didn't happen, since they dropped the charges, but I have no inside information one way or the other.

It's naive to assume she wasn't paid off and it's also naive to think she didn't just make it up looking for a payoff. We won't know.

[ReggiesKnicks]

You guys need a Point Guard.

[Klomp]

OK I know I'm not an active moderator anymore, but let's not continue down this discussion please.

[Klomp]

You guys need a Point Guard.

We'll take an Andrew Nembhard, if you're offering

[KGdaBom]

You guys need a Point Guard.

We'll take an Andrew Nembhard, if you're offering

How about a TJ McConnell?