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Post#1821 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 12:17 am

shrink wrote:Which reminds me, where are we on moss' list?
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shrink wrote:So find me a shooter, on a two year deal, who makes less than $12.3 mil next year?

Terrence Ross - $10,500,000 - $10,500,000 - 37% career from 3 on 4.5 attempts
Wilson Chandler - $12,016,854 $12,800,562 - would be hard to get, not a great shooter either.
Danny Green - $10,000,000 - $10,000,000 - 3 and D
Austin Rivers - $11,825,000 $12,650,000 - puke 37% from 3 on 4 attempts last year.
Al Farouq Aminu - $7,319,035 $6,957,105 - would be a dream, only 33% from 3 though.
Iman Shumpert - $10,337,079 $11,011,236 - only 34% for his career, good defender at least.
Garrett Temple - $8,000,000 $8,000,000 - 37% from 3
Jared Dudley - $10,000,000 $9,530,000 - almost 40% for his career
Lance Thomas - $6,655,325 $7,119,650 $7,583,975(unguaranteed, not sure how much) - shot 40 and 44% the last 2 years, solid role player.

not a real big list of guys that I found. Could probably get some of those in an Aldrich + OKC 1st deal if you needed to.


HartfordWhalers suggested Cole for Dudley straight up, which I like. This gives PHX $2.7 mil savings this year, gives them leverage over Len's next contract, and gets them $7.5 mil next year. We keep the OKC pick.

I'd do this. Dudley provides shooting and can play 2 spots. I think the bottom 3 are the most likely to be possible. Sacramento may not want Cole with all the bigs they have, though.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1822 » by SBM » Thu Jul 6, 2017 12:33 am

Boston looking for salary dump, don't see how the Wolves can offer that. Any of those 3 would be big though.
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Post#1823 » by C.lupus » Thu Jul 6, 2017 12:50 am

SBM wrote:Boston looking for salary dump, don't see how the Wolves can offer that. Any of those 3 would be big though.

A sign and trade with Crowder heading to Utah would make a lot of sense.
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Post#1824 » by m2002brian » Thu Jul 6, 2017 12:54 am

SBM wrote:Boston looking for salary dump, don't see how the Wolves can offer that. Any of those 3 would be big though.


Can we just ship them Payne and a second for Bradley?
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Post#1825 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:00 am

m2002brian wrote:
SBM wrote:Boston looking for salary dump, don't see how the Wolves can offer that. Any of those 3 would be big though.


Can we just ship them Payne and a second for Bradley?


Payne is a free agent.
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Post#1826 » by m2002brian » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:02 am

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m2002brian wrote:
SBM wrote:Boston looking for salary dump, don't see how the Wolves can offer that. Any of those 3 would be big though.


Can we just ship them Payne and a second for Bradley?


Payne is a free agent.



Dayum, I thought he still had a couple years left on his deal.
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Post#1827 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:05 am

m2002brian wrote:
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m2002brian wrote:
Can we just ship them Payne and a second for Bradley?


Payne is a free agent.



Dayum, I thought he still had a couple years left on his deal.


We didn't pick up his option.
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Post#1828 » by m2002brian » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:07 am

Worm Guts wrote:
m2002brian wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Payne is a free agent.



Dayum, I thought he still had a couple years left on his deal.


We didn't pick up his option.



With his phenomenal play? Really?
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1829 » by SBM » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:25 am

I dont fully understand the cap but if Minny could stretch someone to fit any of those 3 from the Celts it would be a big get, they are not going to get anything close to those talents at this point in Free Agency.
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Post#1830 » by Avihs7 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:41 am

Marcus smart?
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Post#1831 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:43 am

Stretch Cole and do the OKC 1st for Crowder and Smart or Rozier? I'd take Mickey too.
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Post#1832 » by jpatrick » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:50 am

According to Woj, Jazz/Celtics talking Crowder for Hayward in a sign and trade. Boooooo!!!
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Post#1833 » by ace625214 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:08 am

I would really like Crowder on this team. Not losing Hayward for nothing would be very nice for Utah, though. They still have a decent shot at the playoffs with Jae.
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Post#1834 » by big3_8_19_21 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:25 am

If the Celtics can get an asset back in a cap clearing move with a third team and sign Hayward outright, that's still better for them than S&T with Celtics unless Jazz add something.
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Post#1835 » by Neeva » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:42 am

jpatrick wrote:According to Woj, Jazz/Celtics talking Crowder for Hayward in a sign and trade. Boooooo!!!

How does that help Bostons gaping hole in the front court with Olynik leaving? Plus they have to pay Thomas, smart and bradley much more to keep them after next season.
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Post#1836 » by Streakers33 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 8:54 am

Damn. I was excited about the idea of dieng and a 2021 1st for crowder/ Bradley/Mickey/ Jackson

And let cole gain some value back


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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1837 » by mplsfonz23 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 1:00 pm

Not quite sure I want Bradley due to some things I heard about him. But Boston is desperately trying to get rid of both.
Cole and pick would be a good trade for Jae.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1838 » by minimus » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:54 pm

Crowder is heading to UTA in sign and trade. For Bradley or Smart I wouldn't use our OKC pick
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1839 » by shrink » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:58 pm

I wonder if the Hawks would just like to absorb Cole Aldrich for a Top-55 protected 2nd?

Their front court (PF and C) right now is Miles Plumlee, Diamond Stone, and rookie John Collins. They will go shopping in free agency, but Aldrich might be a better contract than free agents, because guys his level will hope to get two years or more. He could get decent minutes there, mentor for a year, then maybe Stone and Collins take over in 2018.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1840 » by shrink » Thu Jul 6, 2017 5:29 pm

Would it be better to simply trade them Cole Aldrich for Mike Dunleavy?

ATL is about to waive Dunleavy, and pay the $1.7 mil he has guaranteed on his deal, to avoid the $4.8 mil contract. So knock $1.7 mil in savings off of Aldrich's contract for them.

For us, we have two options:

1. We don't trade. We keep Cole, sign Dunleavy for the vet min.

2. We trade. We pay $4.8 for Dunleavy this year, but it's $2.5 mil less than we would pay for Aldrich. We get a $2.5 TPE. We have Dunleavy on a bad contract this year.

Which package is better? Cole + Dunleavy for $8 mil, or Dunleavy alone for $4.8 plus a $2.5 mil TPE?

I would lean towards option 1, and look elsewhere, but if you think option 2, you may be able to convince me.
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