Trade Talk (Part Five)

[Crazy-Canuck]

Need a big 2 way wing or at least a wing that can defend and not be such an offensive liability. Maybe try and get otto porter cheaply.

[Jedzz]

Griffen is a top 10 NBA worst contract.

He only has one year after this season left. If nothing about this worked he's a big contract for an expiring trade that allows you to match another bigtime player. Not sure what your issue is on his contract. We match with what we are moving out and really have no need for those players.
...Their multi year pick is protected for them 1-16. I don't know what else they have without looking more.

Re Pistons 1st: protected all the way until 2027. So they can not trade their 1st any time soon. Even reverse protections may be impossible because risk of consecutive 1sts scenario happening. So, only way for Pistons to trade a 1st is unprotect that Rockets 1st and risk their top 5 (3?) 1st as they tank. Not happening.

Griffen: right now sits on TNT board of voted on worst contracts in league. Not only is that a true opinion in my eyes but that of many.

Ugh, your last. No one is questioning whether it was a bad contract. My Gawd man. Read what I posted. What are you scared of his contract for when it's at the very end?

I tried looking up Detroit's FRP situation in 2021. What a mess. Who the hell wrote up that trade with Houston? Not only between those two but there is something about swaps with Hawks and Brooklyn picks...just a mess. Maybe not worth even talking to such teams that would be foolish enough to lock of their FRPs for the next 5 years to a single trade of their established Wood for a #16 pick. I don't know what kind of bs was going on there.

[Jedzz]

Is this supposed to be real? Did this happen this offseason or is this total fake news?

January 30, 2021 Greg Patuto
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/30/nba-

This is not the first time Karl-Anthony Towns has been linked to the Golden State Warriors. During the offseason, the Minnesota Timberwolves were apparently shopping their big man and the Warriors were one of the interested teams.

[jpatrick]

Is this supposed to be real? Did this happen this offseason or is this total fake news?

January 30, 2021 Greg Patuto
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/30/nba-

This is not the first time Karl-Anthony Towns has been linked to the Golden State Warriors. During the offseason, the Minnesota Timberwolves were apparently shopping their big man and the Warriors were one of the interested teams.

I would be shocked if this were true. Not only is Towns on the front end of a five year deal but Rosas went after Towns’ BFF (DLo) like he was Lebron, ending up in the horrific Wiggins trade.

[Norseman79]

Is this supposed to be real? Did this happen this offseason or is this total fake news?

January 30, 2021 Greg Patuto
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/30/nba-

This is not the first time Karl-Anthony Towns has been linked to the Golden State Warriors. During the offseason, the Minnesota Timberwolves were apparently shopping their big man and the Warriors were one of the interested teams.

If this is true, Rosas is the dumbest son of a b*tch to ever be a gm, passing David Kahn. There should be no way that they consider moving him to the West. Unless it is such a one-sided trade that they can't match it.

[shangrila]

Is this supposed to be real? Did this happen this offseason or is this total fake news?

January 30, 2021 Greg Patuto
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/30/nba-

This is not the first time Karl-Anthony Towns has been linked to the Golden State Warriors. During the offseason, the Minnesota Timberwolves were apparently shopping their big man and the Warriors were one of the interested teams.

You really think they were looking to trade him, their biggest money maker, while the team was for sale?

[Jedzz]

Is this supposed to be real? Did this happen this offseason or is this total fake news?

January 30, 2021 Greg Patuto
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/30/nba-

This is not the first time Karl-Anthony Towns has been linked to the Golden State Warriors. During the offseason, the Minnesota Timberwolves were apparently shopping their big man and the Warriors were one of the interested teams.

You really think they were looking to trade him, their biggest money maker, while the team was for sale?

The page was linked within a tweet answering Britt Robinson, from a William Franklin. The Britt tweet was posted here today by someone. I was foolish enough to bite to read more.

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The page is still there. Greg Patuto? Greg POTATO? Joke? I don't know who the writer is. My first guess is this is bs. But asking anyway. If it's in any way real...

[shangrila]

Is this supposed to be real? Did this happen this offseason or is this total fake news?

You really think they were looking to trade him, their biggest money maker, while the team was for sale?

The page was linked within a tweet answering Britt Robinson, from a William Franklin. The Britt tweet was posted here today by someone. I was foolish enough to bite to read more.

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The page is still there. Greg Patuto? Greg POTATO? Joke? I don't know who the writer is. My first guess is this is bs. But asking anyway. If it's in any way real...

It's not real, it's just for clicks. Which you've given them...and now I've given them. So I guess it worked.

[Jedzz]

You really think they were looking to trade him, their biggest money maker, while the team was for sale?

The page was linked within a tweet answering Britt Robinson, from a William Franklin. The Britt tweet was posted here today by someone. I was foolish enough to bite to read more.

Read on Twitter

followed

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The page is still there. Greg Patuto? Greg POTATO? Joke? I don't know who the writer is. My first guess is this is bs. But asking anyway. If it's in any way real...

It's not real, it's just for clicks. Which you've given them...and now I've given them. So I guess it worked.

Like I said,I was foolish. But prety much the exact trade suggestion made there is in this trade thread suggested by someone here a while ago.

[Klomp]

People really need to learn what reputable NBA sources are.....

[Neeva]

I’d do that trade if wolves keep their pick this offseason tbh. Wiseman, Edwards, plus one (Suggs or Cunningham or Mobley) and possibly Holmgren or Bates, core in 3-4 seasons sounds amazing.

I’d then trade Culver, Dlo,Okogie, Layman, Hernanagomez and Rubio. keep Beasley to keep getting higher value.

It will be weird seeeing Kat and Wiggs winning an nba title with the Warriors though.

[shangrila]

I’d do that trade if wolves keep their pick this offseason tbh. Wiseman, Edwards, plus one (Suggs or Cunningham or Mobley) and possibly Holmgren or Bates, core in 3-4 seasons sounds amazing.

I’d then trade Culver, Dlo,Okogie, Layman, Hernanagomez and Rubio. keep Beasley to keep getting higher value.

It will be weird seeeing Kat and Wiggs winning an nba title with the Warriors though.

I'm a little more curious about the Suns.

Say we suck again and Towns decides he's done. Say also that the Suns underperform and don't even make the play-in, with some rumblings that Booker is looking for an out.

You could do Towns, Russell and Hernangomez for Ayton, Paul, Smith and Crowder, plus 3-4 1sts/swaps and however many 2nds. Assuming we're bad/lucky enough to keep our 1st this season and say we'll take Suggs as the future PG, that would give us a Paul-Beasley-Edwards-Crowder-Ayton SLU to try and win games in the following season when we'd for sure lose our pick, with guys like Suggs and McDaniels off the bench to eventually take over for when Paul and Crowder are traded or leave. Paul wipes off Russell's salary essentially as he expires and Ayton might demand a max but maybe not (he's not exactly blowing anyone away) so we could end up saving some compared to Towns too. That should give us some wiggle room to either sign vets (even if we have to overpay) or to take on salary for additional picks.

[SO_MONEY]

I’d do that trade if wolves keep their pick this offseason tbh. Wiseman, Edwards, plus one (Suggs or Cunningham or Mobley) and possibly Holmgren or Bates, core in 3-4 seasons sounds amazing.

I’d then trade Culver, Dlo,Okogie, Layman, Hernanagomez and Rubio. keep Beasley to keep getting higher value.

It will be weird seeeing Kat and Wiggs winning an nba title with the Warriors though.

I'm a little more curious about the Suns.

Say we suck again and Towns decides he's done. Say also that the Suns underperform and don't even make the play-in, with some rumblings that Booker is looking for an out.

You could do Towns, Russell and Hernangomez for Ayton, Paul, Smith and Crowder, plus 3-4 1sts/swaps and however many 2nds. Assuming we're bad/lucky enough to keep our 1st this season and say we'll take Suggs as the future PG, that would give us a Paul-Beasley-Edwards-Crowder-Ayton SLU to try and win games in the following season when we'd for sure lose our pick, with guys like Suggs and McDaniels off the bench to eventually take over for when Paul and Crowder are traded or leave. Paul wipes off Russell's salary essentially as he expires and Ayton might demand a max but maybe not (he's not exactly blowing anyone away) so we could end up saving some compared to Towns too. That should give us some wiggle room to either sign vets (even if we have to overpay) or to take on salary for additional picks.

Because PHX traded a 1st for Paul it is hard to make a deal with them, moreover I don't think we want Paul. That deal is an easy NO in my mind, someone will offer better.

[Dewey]

Biggest challenge is with all the lingering covid issues, and until we know whether or not we can compete with the full roster, it's moot to suggest much on the trade front. Either way, we wont have the assets to gain traction in the off-season, so basically...

1. If we can compete (> .500), we will be selectively active in the off-season to balance roster - spit swap 1-2 deals
2. If we do not compete (< .500), we will be non-selective in the off-season - but struggle with trade values
3. We do not compete and never really put the roster together ... cross fingers heading to the lottery

[Wolveswin]

I’d do that trade if wolves keep their pick this offseason tbh. Wiseman, Edwards, plus one (Suggs or Cunningham or Mobley) and possibly Holmgren or Bates, core in 3-4 seasons sounds amazing.

I’d then trade Culver, Dlo,Okogie, Layman, Hernanagomez and Rubio. keep Beasley to keep getting higher value.

It will be weird seeeing Kat and Wiggs winning an nba title with the Warriors though.

I'm a little more curious about the Suns.

Say we suck again and Towns decides he's done. Say also that the Suns underperform and don't even make the play-in, with some rumblings that Booker is looking for an out.

You could do Towns, Russell and Hernangomez for Ayton, Paul, Smith and Crowder, plus 3-4 1sts/swaps and however many 2nds. Assuming we're bad/lucky enough to keep our 1st this season and say we'll take Suggs as the future PG, that would give us a Paul-Beasley-Edwards-Crowder-Ayton SLU to try and win games in the following season when we'd for sure lose our pick, with guys like Suggs and McDaniels off the bench to eventually take over for when Paul and Crowder are traded or leave. Paul wipes off Russell's salary essentially as he expires and Ayton might demand a max but maybe not (he's not exactly blowing anyone away) so we could end up saving some compared to Towns too. That should give us some wiggle room to either sign vets (even if we have to overpay) or to take on salary for additional picks.

Because PHX traded a 1st for Paul it is hard to make a deal with them, moreover I don't think we want Paul. That deal is an easy NO in my mind, someone will offer better.

I’d do that trade if wolves keep their pick this offseason tbh. Wiseman, Edwards, plus one (Suggs or Cunningham or Mobley) and possibly Holmgren or Bates, core in 3-4 seasons sounds amazing.

I’d then trade Culver, Dlo,Okogie, Layman, Hernanagomez and Rubio. keep Beasley to keep getting higher value.

It will be weird seeeing Kat and Wiggs winning an nba title with the Warriors though.

I'm a little more curious about the Suns.

Say we suck again and Towns decides he's done. Say also that the Suns underperform and don't even make the play-in, with some rumblings that Booker is looking for an out.

You could do Towns, Russell and Hernangomez for Ayton, Paul, Smith and Crowder, plus 3-4 1sts/swaps and however many 2nds. Assuming we're bad/lucky enough to keep our 1st this season and say we'll take Suggs as the future PG, that would give us a Paul-Beasley-Edwards-Crowder-Ayton SLU to try and win games in the following season when we'd for sure lose our pick, with guys like Suggs and McDaniels off the bench to eventually take over for when Paul and Crowder are traded or leave. Paul wipes off Russell's salary essentially as he expires and Ayton might demand a max but maybe not (he's not exactly blowing anyone away) so we could end up saving some compared to Towns too. That should give us some wiggle room to either sign vets (even if we have to overpay) or to take on salary for additional picks.

Because PHX traded a 1st for Paul it is hard to make a deal with them, moreover I don't think we want Paul. That deal is an easy NO in my mind, someone will offer better.

The best trade is with Warriors. Sadly.

Wiseman
Oubre Jr.
Paschall
2021 Wolves 1st
2021 Warriors 1st (21-30 protected)
2026 Warriors 1st
2022&2023 Warriors 1st Swap

But I would look for a third team who may offer a bad contract + asset for expiring Oubre, maybe Paschall, plus Hernangomez and/or Beasley.

[Neeva]

I’d do that trade if wolves keep their pick this offseason tbh. Wiseman, Edwards, plus one (Suggs or Cunningham or Mobley) and possibly Holmgren or Bates, core in 3-4 seasons sounds amazing.

I’d then trade Culver, Dlo,Okogie, Layman, Hernanagomez and Rubio. keep Beasley to keep getting higher value.

It will be weird seeeing Kat and Wiggs winning an nba title with the Warriors though.

I'm a little more curious about the Suns.

Say we suck again and Towns decides he's done. Say also that the Suns underperform and don't even make the play-in, with some rumblings that Booker is looking for an out.

You could do Towns, Russell and Hernangomez for Ayton, Paul, Smith and Crowder, plus 3-4 1sts/swaps and however many 2nds. Assuming we're bad/lucky enough to keep our 1st this season and say we'll take Suggs as the future PG, that would give us a Paul-Beasley-Edwards-Crowder-Ayton SLU to try and win games in the following season when we'd for sure lose our pick, with guys like Suggs and McDaniels off the bench to eventually take over for when Paul and Crowder are traded or leave. Paul wipes off Russell's salary essentially as he expires and Ayton might demand a max but maybe not (he's not exactly blowing anyone away) so we could end up saving some compared to Towns too. That should give us some wiggle room to either sign vets (even if we have to overpay) or to take on salary for additional picks.

I am not a fan of ayton (or wiseman for that matter) and we need to stay away from giving big contracts to a center in the future.
I really want the wolves to get their 2022 pick back. Bates and Chet are the real deal and if Kat wants out the wolves MUST be in the hunt for one of them.

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[Jedzz]

The best trade is with Warriors. Sadly.

How do you figure that?

Wiseman
Oubre Jr.
Paschall
2021 Wolves 1st
2021 Warriors 1st (21-30 protected)
2026 Warriors 1st
2022&2023 Warriors 1st Swap

But I would look for a third team who may offer a bad contract + asset for expiring Oubre, maybe Paschall, plus Hernangomez and/or Beasley.

no thanks Protected picks for where they will likely pick is included for what exactly? Then wait another 5 years for the next pick? Are you a Warriors poster who added a Wolves posting account? Second time I think I've seen you include Paschall.

[SO_MONEY]

The best trade is with Warriors. Sadly.

How do you figure that?

Wiseman
Oubre Jr.
Paschall
2021 Wolves 1st
2021 Warriors 1st (21-30 protected)
2026 Warriors 1st
2022&2023 Warriors 1st Swap

But I would look for a third team who may offer a bad contract + asset for expiring Oubre, maybe Paschall, plus Hernangomez and/or Beasley.

no thanks Protected picks for where they will likely pick is included for what exactly? Then wait another 5 years for the next pick? Are you a Warriors poster who added a Wolves posting account? Second time I think I've seen you include Paschall.

Also, we only have one open roster spot at the moment...might make it hard without a deal to open up another and then the question is who or how? As the above deal doesn't work/isn't an option in a vacuum.

[Jedzz]

People really need to learn what reputable NBA sources are.....

I'm a sucker sometimes for lessor known sports sites and individual tweeters because i get really annoyed only reading about Lebron/Davis/houston/warriors/Giannis/Clippers/Nets insert superstacked team a,b,c flavor of the season. The league is so much larger than that but not exactly covered by the "reputable" guys. I'd like to hear about the less talked about rumors sometimes too.