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Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:41 am
by BlacJacMac
This Knicks/Pacers game is awful basketball, but at least it’s exciting.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:41 am
by KGdaBom
Gratz to the Pacers. Staying alive.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 8:32 am
by younggunsmn
The end of that Pacers Knicks game was terrible.
Teams traded brick after brick after brick before a couple prayers go in.

I can't stand Haliburton but I'm happy to see the small market win that one.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:15 am
by minimus
I told ya


Watch on YouTube


P.S. Nembhard is not a star player, but he is more than capable to play with starters

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:22 pm
by KGdaBom
Pistons get totally screwed in the draft lottery picking 5.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:28 pm
by KGdaBom
Atlanta picking top 4. Does that make a KAT trade to the Hawks less likely?
Spurs get 4
Rockets 3
Wizards 2
Hawks get 1st pick with only 3% chance.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:32 pm
by shrink
Last week I sent an email to the commissioner Adam Silver suggesting changes to the lottery

Contention: The current NBA lottery system is flawed because it doesn’t do its best to promote parity, and it encourages tanking.

Problem: No other major professional can be so impacted by a superstar draftee as the NBA. Only five players are on the court at one time, and they play both offense and defense. This makes it critical that these potential superstars go to the franchises where they are needed most. A system that makes it economically correct to tank to get these high-value players is flawed. This system must differentiate between truly bad teams from artificially bad ones, who are tanking or are already a good team which has a brief down year (usually through injury).

Solution: The lottery system order should be based on a weighted average of win/loss.

50% on the record for last season
30% on the record of the season before that
20% on the record of the season before that.

This system differentiates truly bad teams. Tanking is an economic cost to franchises in ticket sales, merchandise, etc. in this system, tanking has only half the impact on a team’s draft position. Also, it would take three full years of tanking to get the full effect, which would be very expensive.

The system differentiates temporarily bad teams, often when a star gets a one-season injury. The Warriors did not need the #2 pick in the 2020 draft, and the Spurs didn’t need Tim Duncan when David Robinson missed a year.

The system rewards truly bad teams, who’s franchises (and their fanbase), need a better shot at a potential superstar. The system promotes parity, and it promotes profitability, instead of leaving non-free agent destinations without hope.

To complete the process, I would recommend that you continue to still use lottery odds, but with less probability that distant teams get top picks. Also, since this system is intentionally slower to respond, I would propose that if a team gets a top 4 lottery pick, it is ineligible for another top 4 pick the next season (and slides to number 5). This gives more teams a chance at a superstar, and doesn’t reward a team who has been bad for two years, just got one, but he hasn’t taken the team out of the lottery in his rookie season (think Wembanyama).

Top lottery players are always going to be extremely valuable, and the NBA needs a system that insures that they go to truly bad teams for parity and hope. This simple improvement will increase those odds, and simultaneously decrease tanking.


Today’s results are more evidence that the system is flawed. No franchise (and fanbase) needs a top pick more than DET. ATL was in the play in! The correct system would place these top picks in the team that are legitimately bad, and need them most.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:38 pm
by Neeva
Of course Atlanta gets the top pick in a draft with no real star at the top. Let the Kat to atlanta trade talks commence.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 7:41 pm
by KGdaBom
Neeva wrote:Of course Atlanta gets the top pick in a draft with no real star at the top. Let the Kat to atlanta trade talks commence.

I think it makes it less likely.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:17 pm
by TimberKat
KGdaBom wrote:Atlanta picking top 4. Does that make a KAT trade to the Hawks less likely?
Spurs get 4
Rockets 3
Wizards 2
Hawks get 1st pick with only 3% chance.

The lottery day used to be the most exciting day of a Twolves season. This year I didn't know about it until after it happened. I think it's great that DET dropped from one to five 2 years in a row. The system is kinda working as tanking doesn't help. I still like moving the odds to favor 2nd or 3rd worst team better. DEN certainly could start spending to rebuild like HOU.

Although today still is the most exciting day of the Twolves season but for a different reason. It's happy mother's day to all those new baby puppies :D

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:19 pm
by TimberKat
KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:Of course Atlanta gets the top pick in a draft with no real star at the top. Let the Kat to atlanta trade talks commence.

I think it makes it less likely.

I see ALT use the pick for trade Trae. Depending where we end up. Towns could be part of the conversation.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:22 pm
by shrink
IND is putting an ass-kicking on the Knicks .. 47-19

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:25 pm
by KGdaBom
shrink wrote:IND is putting an ass-kicking on the Knicks .. 47-19

Shocking like when the Wolves demolished the Nuggets at Denver followed by the Nuggets demolishing the Wolves in Mpls.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:32 pm
by TimberKat
KGdaBom wrote:
shrink wrote:IND is putting an ass-kicking on the Knicks .. 47-19

Shocking like when the Wolves demolished the Nuggets at Denver followed by the Nuggets demolishing the Wolves in Mpls.

But NY is without OG and Randle. Thib also over played Brunson, DiVincenzo, and Hart.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:50 pm
by KGdaBom
Is this supposed to be one of the worst drafts in a very long time? Tankathon still has us selecting McCullar and Ajinca.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 2:57 am
by life_saver
I can't wait for league to expand and Wolves to move to Eastern conference. Celtics path to finals is literally a joke..just disparity between both the conferences

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:06 am
by Neeva
life_saver wrote:I can't wait for league to expand and Wolves to move to Eastern conference. Celtics path to finals is literally a joke..just disparity between both the conferences


Tbh dallas/thunder look very beatable, get rid of conferences. The semi finals and finals would probably be all west teams :lol: most years though.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:29 am
by life_saver
Neeva wrote:
life_saver wrote:I can't wait for league to expand and Wolves to move to Eastern conference. Celtics path to finals is literally a joke..just disparity between both the conferences


Tbh dallas/thunder look very beatable, get rid of conferences. The semi finals and finals would probably be all west teams :lol: most years though.

Healthy Mavs would be a tough team to beat in playoffs imo...its obvious that Luka is not even close to being fully fit. If he was fit, then Mavs would be scary. Thunder though I agree that they are beatable, quite inexperienced.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:31 am
by life_saver
PJ Washington was shooting 32% from 3 in RS but has been shooting lights out from 3 so far in this series....we need one of our role players to have these kind of games if we wanna win this series.

Re: Around the NBA

Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:40 am
by Klomp
I'm not worried about the isoMavs. And seeing OKC getting killed on the boards, I would still feel very confident against either team if we can get past Denver.