2017 Draft Thread

Baseline81 · Post #1861 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:22 pm

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How reliable is LegionHoops.com?

Mattya · Post #1862 » by **Mattya** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:24 pm

Baseline81 wrote:

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How reliable is LegionHoops.com?

I don't think it is reliable, but I wouldn't be shocked at the possibility.

wildvikeswolves · Post #1863 » by **wildvikeswolves** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:26 pm

Baseline81 wrote:

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How reliable is LegionHoops.com?

I've rarely, if ever seen that source be correct. The Mavs have absolutely nothing to give us.

Baseline81 · Post #1864 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:27 pm

Mattya wrote:I don't think it is reliable, but I wouldn't be shocked at the possibility.

Dallas likely deals with the Wolves in order to move ahead of New York for Ntilikina or Smith. If Minny decides to pass on one of the remaining PG prospects, trading back to receive an additional asset makes sense. It's why I wouldn't draft Markkanen at no. 7.

Mattya · Post #1865 » by **Mattya** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:28 pm

I see them mentioned a lot on a bunch of boards here, and I have never seen any of their rumors actually happen.

Mattya · Post #1866 » by **Mattya** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Mattya wrote:I don't think it is reliable, but I wouldn't be shocked at the possibility.

Dallas likely deals with the Wolves in order to move ahead of New York for Ntilikina or Smith. If Minny decides to pass on one of the remaining PG prospects, trading back to receive an additional asset makes sense. It's why I wouldn't draft Markkanen at no. 7.

Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

Baseline81 · Post #1867 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:33 pm

Mattya wrote:Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

Would the Mavs offer a future lottery protected pick?

Not sure I would even accept that considering how far away Dallas is from reaching the playoffs.

Mattya · Post #1868 » by **Mattya** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:35 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Mattya wrote:Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

Would the Mavs offer a future lottery protected pick?

Not sure I would even accept that considering how far away Dallas is from reaching the playoffs.

Yea, they have a solid foundation and a great coach, but the West is stacked and doesn't look to be getting any easier. Could be a while before you get anything.

wolves_89 · Post #1869 » by **wolves_89** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:37 pm

Mattya wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
Mattya wrote:I don't think it is reliable, but I wouldn't be shocked at the possibility.

Dallas likely deals with the Wolves in order to move ahead of New York for Ntilikina or Smith. If Minny decides to pass on one of the remaining PG prospects, trading back to receive an additional asset makes sense. It's why I wouldn't draft Markkanen at no. 7.

Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

In theory Dallas and Minnesota make sense in terms of swapping picks, the problem is the Mavs complete lack of attractive assets. I have no interest in the contract of Matthews and Curry/Finney-Smith don't have the value to get it done.

MN7725 · Post #1870 » by **MN7725** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:41 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Mattya wrote:Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

Would the Mavs offer a future lottery protected pick?

Not sure I would even accept that considering how far away Dallas is from reaching the playoffs.

If that's the only offer, still worth doing just to get back some of the flexibility lost from losing the '18 pick in Payne trade

That's if Wolves don't have interest in the guys likely to be taken by NYK and Dallas

Slim Tubby · Post #1871 » by **Slim Tubby** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:47 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
Mattya wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Dallas likely deals with the Wolves in order to move ahead of New York for Ntilikina or Smith. If Minny decides to pass on one of the remaining PG prospects, trading back to receive an additional asset makes sense. It's why I wouldn't draft Markkanen at no. 7.

Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

In theory Dallas and Minnesota make sense in terms of swapping picks, the problem is the Mavs complete lack of attractive assets. I have no interest in the contract of Matthews and Curry/Finney-Smith don't have the value to get it done.

Agreed. The only player on DAL that has any appeal to me would be Barnes. I would personally do Rubio and #7 for Barnes, #9 and the crappy contract of Mathews but that's probably much too good for our club. Maybe the source is half correct and instead of #7, it's straight up Rubio for #9 to give Dirk some immediate help? DSJ and Zach Collins would be a hell of a nice haul for the Wolves and DSJ, Dunn and Tyus can push each other for minutes at PG. I would give just about anything to be able to follow Thibs around the next two days listening to all of the draft talk and trade offers that come our way.

Slim Tubby · Post #1872 » by **Slim Tubby** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:50 pm

MN7725 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
Mattya wrote:Agreed. I just don't really know what they have to offer. Maybe a Curry for Aldrich swap? I thought Dorian Finney Smith was a good prospect last draft as well.

Would the Mavs offer a future lottery protected pick?

Not sure I would even accept that considering how far away Dallas is from reaching the playoffs.

If that's the only offer, still worth doing just to get back some of the flexibility lost from losing the '18 pick in Payne trade

That's if Wolves don't have interest in the guys likely to be taken by NYK and Dallas

MN should really be in the driver's seat here with NYK and DAL both craving a PG. Not to mention if SAC misses out on Fox at #5. The problem is all three (3) of those teams have literally crap to offer us unless SAC wants to part with WCS and #10 if they believe Skal is ready to take a larger role this year.

HitmanCapone · Post #1873 » by **HitmanCapone** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:51 pm

Klomp wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Streakers33 wrote:Good year to trade it.. last year we all agreed Dunn was the guy to get at pick 5.. year before we all agreed.. this year we all over.

I don't think last year we all agreed on Dunn, at least not here. We're probably as close this year on Isaac, maybe closer.

Yeah the people who wanted Dunn last year were in the vast minority. Same thing the previous year with LaVine.

KAT?

MN7725 · Post #1874 » by **MN7725** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:58 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Would the Mavs offer a future lottery protected pick?

Not sure I would even accept that considering how far away Dallas is from reaching the playoffs.

If that's the only offer, still worth doing just to get back some of the flexibility lost from losing the '18 pick in Payne trade

That's if Wolves don't have interest in the guys likely to be taken by NYK and Dallas

MN should really be in the driver's seat here with NYK and DAL both craving a PG. Not to mention if SAC misses out on Fox at #5. The problem is all three (3) of those teams have literally crap to offer us unless SAC wants to part with WCS and #10 if they believe Skal is ready to take a larger role this year.

They might not though

Mavs have been reported to go after Holliday, Carlisle is not exactly a player development guy and obviously PG is the hardest position, need a lot of patience

Knicks have money to spend in FA too, maybe Phil is in love with Lauri.

Who knows?

Just as easily could be that Wolves end up with four PGs on the roster and no leverage

Post #1875 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:02 pm

HitmanCapone wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
I don't think last year we all agreed on Dunn, at least not here. We're probably as close this year on Isaac, maybe closer.

Yeah the people who wanted Dunn last year were in the vast minority. Same thing the previous year with LaVine.

KAT?

Haha oops. Two years previous.

Baseline81 · Post #1876 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:04 pm

Givony and Woj both think the top 6 in the draft is locked in (not the order but rather the prospects).

DSJ, Markannen or Monk...

wolves_89 · Post #1877 » by **wolves_89** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:08 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Givony and Woj both think the top 6 in the draft is locked in (not the order but rather the prospects).

Seems like a familiar scenario, the Wolves move down in the draft at the lottery and end up one pick too low to get a player they really want.

Slim Tubby · Post #1878 » by **Slim Tubby** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:10 pm

MN7725 wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
MN7725 wrote:
If that's the only offer, still worth doing just to get back some of the flexibility lost from losing the '18 pick in Payne trade

That's if Wolves don't have interest in the guys likely to be taken by NYK and Dallas

MN should really be in the driver's seat here with NYK and DAL both craving a PG. Not to mention if SAC misses out on Fox at #5. The problem is all three (3) of those teams have literally crap to offer us unless SAC wants to part with WCS and #10 if they believe Skal is ready to take a larger role this year.

They might not though

Mavs have been reported to go after Holliday, Carlisle is not exactly a player development guy and obviously PG is the hardest position, need a lot of patience

Knicks have money to spend in FA too, maybe Phil is in love with Lauri.

Who knows?

Just as easily could be that Wolves end up with four PGs on the roster and no leverage

Good point....I do remember reading somewhere that DAL was going to try to sign both Holiday brothers. I guess I've always expected Jrue to stay with the Pelicans for a chance to play with AD and Boogie.

Post #1879 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:15 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Givony and Woj both think the top 6 in the draft is locked in (not the order but rather the prospects).

Seems like a familiar scenario, the Wolves move down in the draft at the lottery and end up one pick too low to get a player they really want.

That's assuming the player they really want is in the Top 6.

Post #1880 » by **Klomp** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:15 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Givony and Woj both think the top 6 in the draft is locked in (not the order but rather the prospects).

Seems like a familiar scenario, the Wolves move down in the draft at the lottery and end up one pick too low to get a player they really want.

That's assuming the player they really want is in the Top 6.