Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[Slim Tubby]

However, Hansen did embarrass himself in his 5 minutes.

Because getting thrown out there in an NBA game as a green, inexperienced rookie will often lead to more negatives than positives.

They call it the "David Carr Effect" in the NFL.

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[KGdaBom]

However, Hansen did embarrass himself in his 5 minutes.

Because getting thrown out there in an NBA game as a green, inexperienced rookie will often lead to more negatives than positives.

They call it the "David Carr Effect" in the NFL.

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On the other hand VJ Edgecombe and Cooper Flagg are very young, inexperienced rookies and they're playing already. I think they will be just fine.

[TimberKat]

However, Hansen did embarrass himself in his 5 minutes.

Because getting thrown out there in an NBA game as a green, inexperienced rookie will often lead to more negatives than positives.

And Yang has been playing basketball since 3rd grade.

At 15 his team won the Chinese U17 National Championship. They won it again the next year with Yang being named MVP.

In his 2 years playing in the CBA he was Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, a 2x All-Star and a 2x All CBA First Team.

He should be way more ready than Beringer - and look at how he struggled.

That said, I would never trade Joan for Hansen, but Joan is a play for the future. Anything he gives us now is gravy,

I take Hansen over Joan. Hansen is more versatile but needed real NBA speed to fine tune his game. Joan is just raw. It will be interesting to see how they both develop in the next couple years.

[TimberKat]

I gave you a +1. You had me until you said Jeremy Evans whoever that is.

He played for the Jazz 10-15 years ago. He was arguably one of the most athletic players I've even seen. He also had zero BBIQ and pretty terrible skills.

He was a bit shorter but probably had the same skillet as Joan.

I think Le Berricade has athleticism, but he also has balance, foot work and good instincts IMO.

He is quick but the foot work isn't basketball foot work yet.

[KGdaBom]

Because getting thrown out there in an NBA game as a green, inexperienced rookie will often lead to more negatives than positives.

And Yang has been playing basketball since 3rd grade.

At 15 his team won the Chinese U17 National Championship. They won it again the next year with Yang being named MVP.

In his 2 years playing in the CBA he was Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, a 2x All-Star and a 2x All CBA First Team.

He should be way more ready than Beringer - and look at how he struggled.

That said, I would never trade Joan for Hansen, but Joan is a play for the future. Anything he gives us now is gravy,

I take Hansen over Joan. Hansen is more versatile but needed real NBA speed to fine tune his game. Joan is just raw. It will be interesting to see how they both develop in the next couple years.

You will look back at this and feel very sheepish.

[TimberKat]

And Yang has been playing basketball since 3rd grade.

At 15 his team won the Chinese U17 National Championship. They won it again the next year with Yang being named MVP.

In his 2 years playing in the CBA he was Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, a 2x All-Star and a 2x All CBA First Team.

He should be way more ready than Beringer - and look at how he struggled.

That said, I would never trade Joan for Hansen, but Joan is a play for the future. Anything he gives us now is gravy,

I take Hansen over Joan. Hansen is more versatile but needed real NBA speed to fine tune his game. Joan is just raw. It will be interesting to see how they both develop in the next couple years.

You will look back at this and feel very sheepish.

Maybe and maybe not. I do hope they both succeed in the NBA

[BlacJacMac]

Because getting thrown out there in an NBA game as a green, inexperienced rookie will often lead to more negatives than positives.

And Yang has been playing basketball since 3rd grade.

At 15 his team won the Chinese U17 National Championship. They won it again the next year with Yang being named MVP.

In his 2 years playing in the CBA he was Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, a 2x All-Star and a 2x All CBA First Team.

He should be way more ready than Beringer - and look at how he struggled.

That said, I would never trade Joan for Hansen, but Joan is a play for the future. Anything he gives us now is gravy,

I take Hansen over Joan. Hansen is more versatile but needed real NBA speed to fine tune his game. Joan is just raw. It will be interesting to see how they both develop in the next couple years.

I think Hansen has a much more difficult path to playability than Joan.

[KGdaBom]

And Yang has been playing basketball since 3rd grade.

At 15 his team won the Chinese U17 National Championship. They won it again the next year with Yang being named MVP.

In his 2 years playing in the CBA he was Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, a 2x All-Star and a 2x All CBA First Team.

He should be way more ready than Beringer - and look at how he struggled.

That said, I would never trade Joan for Hansen, but Joan is a play for the future. Anything he gives us now is gravy,

I take Hansen over Joan. Hansen is more versatile but needed real NBA speed to fine tune his game. Joan is just raw. It will be interesting to see how they both develop in the next couple years.

I think Hansen has a much more difficult path to playability than Joan.

If Hansen doesn't get his 5 minutes does Portland win the game?

[Klomp]

If Hansen doesn't get his 5 minutes does Portland win the game?

The team was a -5 in his 5 minutes in a 4-point loss....probably.

[TimberKat]

I take Hansen over Joan. Hansen is more versatile but needed real NBA speed to fine tune his game. Joan is just raw. It will be interesting to see how they both develop in the next couple years.

I think Hansen has a much more difficult path to playability than Joan.

If Hansen doesn't get his 5 minutes does Portland win the game?

That is a non question. If we play Joan or Dilly for 5 minutes, would Wolves lose? Whatever the answer is, how do you know that?

[KGdaBom]

I think Hansen has a much more difficult path to playability than Joan.

If Hansen doesn't get his 5 minutes does Portland win the game?

That is a non question. If we play Joan or Dilly for 5 minutes, would Wolves lose? Whatever the answer is, how do you know that?

We will never know. I just asked to see what people would say.

[BlacJacMac]

If Hansen doesn't get his 5 minutes does Portland win the game?

That is a non question. If we play Joan or Dilly for 5 minutes, would Wolves lose? Whatever the answer is, how do you know that?

We will never know. I just asked to see what people would say.

Bones was a +5 in 8 Minutes and the backcourt pairing of him and Clark (with Ant on the bench) is what started our run.

I fully believe we lose the game if Dilly plays those 8 Minutes.

[KGdaBom]

That is a non question. If we play Joan or Dilly for 5 minutes, would Wolves lose? Whatever the answer is, how do you know that?

We will never know. I just asked to see what people would say.

Bones was a +5 in 8 Minutes and the backcourt pairing of him and Clark (with Ant on the bench) is what started our run.

I fully believe we lose the game if Dilly plays those 8 Minutes.

Your belief is noted. I fully believe we do even better if Dilly had played. We will never know.

[frankenwolf]

We will never know. I just asked to see what people would say.

Bones was a +5 in 8 Minutes and the backcourt pairing of him and Clark (with Ant on the bench) is what started our run.

I fully believe we lose the game if Dilly plays those 8 Minutes.

Your belief is noted. I fully believe we do even better if Dilly had played. We will never know.

Just like the number of licks to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop.

[Klomp]

We will never know. I just asked to see what people would say.

Bones was a +5 in 8 Minutes and the backcourt pairing of him and Clark (with Ant on the bench) is what started our run.

I fully believe we lose the game if Dilly plays those 8 Minutes.

Your belief is noted. I fully believe we do even better if Dilly had played. We will never know.

You can say "we will never know", but you could technically also say that we would never know how it would go on Wednesday night by giving Ant's roster spot and minutes to Jules Bernard. We will never know, but we are able to use reasoning to make educated guesses based on the information we do know.

[winforlose]

I will just point out that there are 10 players on a court at any given time and the +/- only shows the net result. If Portland goes cold for 5 minutes that doesn’t mean their shots were well defended. Likewise if the Wolves make shots for 5 minutes it doesn’t mean they were open or good. I watched Bones play, and I would call him a net negative who provided little if any value. His defense was poor and led to several open Blazers shots. His offense was unremarkable, and did nothing to create for his teammates. Simply being on the floor when things went well is not the same as making them go well.

[Danimals]

DDV+Rob+Miller=$20.7 million lets make a deal…

+Conley gets it to $31.5 million…

[KGdaBom]

Bones was a +5 in 8 Minutes and the backcourt pairing of him and Clark (with Ant on the bench) is what started our run.

I fully believe we lose the game if Dilly plays those 8 Minutes.

Your belief is noted. I fully believe we do even better if Dilly had played. We will never know.

Just like the number of licks to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop.

Everybody knows it's 3

[BlacJacMac]

I will just point out that there are 10 players on a court at any given time and the +/- only shows the net result. If Portland goes cold for 5 minutes that doesn’t mean their shots were well defended. Likewise if the Wolves make shots for 5 minutes it doesn’t mean they were open or good. I watched Bones play, and I would call him a net negative who provided little if any value. His defense was poor and led to several open Blazers shots. His offense was unremarkable, and did nothing to create for his teammates. Simply being on the floor when things went well is not the same as making them go well.

I guess we all see what we want to see.

I thought Bones played with pace, ran offense and put in effort on defense.

[KGdaBom]

Bones was a +5 in 8 Minutes and the backcourt pairing of him and Clark (with Ant on the bench) is what started our run.

I fully believe we lose the game if Dilly plays those 8 Minutes.

Your belief is noted. I fully believe we do even better if Dilly had played. We will never know.

You can say "we will never know", but you could technically also say that we would never know how it would go on Wednesday night by giving Ant's roster spot and minutes to Jules Bernard. We will never know, but we are able to use reasoning to make educated guesses based on the information we do know.

True. I think Bones played poorly. I think Dilly would have done better. Others think different. Ant vs Jules Bernard is a much easier call.