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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1881 » by trevor0333 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:01 pm

shrink wrote:After BOS uses Marcus Morris to clear the salary to sign Gordon Hayward, Hartford Whaler's suggests that maybe they send Morris here for Aldrich and the OKC 2nd?

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1592117


I like Morris but that is a steal for Bradley.

With Thibs love of running the offense off the wings, I would have absolutely loved the Wolves finding a way to get Bradley to run the PG over Teague.

Bradley/Wiggins/Butler/Dieng/Towns would be menacing defensively.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1882 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:07 pm

trevor0333 wrote:
shrink wrote:After BOS uses Marcus Morris to clear the salary to sign Gordon Hayward, Hartford Whaler's suggests that maybe they send Morris here for Aldrich and the OKC 2nd?

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1592117


I like Morris but that is a steal for Bradley.

With Thibs love of running the offense off the wings, I would have absolutely loved the Wolves finding a way to get Bradley to run the PG over Teague.

Bradley/Wiggins/Butler/Dieng/Towns would be menacing defensively.

That actually is a very intriguing idea. Bradley has enough ball handling distributing skills to work in a pinch. With Butler as the Primary I would be fine with Bradley as the secondary. Probably more menacing defensively with Gibson than Dieng. Too late now of course, but cool idea.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1883 » by shrink » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:10 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
trevor0333 wrote:
shrink wrote:After BOS uses Marcus Morris to clear the salary to sign Gordon Hayward, Hartford Whaler's suggests that maybe they send Morris here for Aldrich and the OKC 2nd?

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1592117


I like Morris but that is a steal for Bradley.

With Thibs love of running the offense off the wings, I would have absolutely loved the Wolves finding a way to get Bradley to run the PG over Teague.

Bradley/Wiggins/Butler/Dieng/Towns would be menacing defensively.

That actually is a very intriguing idea. Bradley has enough ball handling distributing skills to work in a pinch. With Butler as the Primary I would be fine with Bradley as the secondary. Probably more menacing defensively with Gibson than Dieng. Too late now of course, but cool idea.


The whole reason they are trading Bradley at all is to get the extra cap space they need to sign [oops -- "Gordon Hayward."]. Trading Bradley here does not do that for them.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1884 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:14 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:
trevor0333 wrote:
I like Morris but that is a steal for Bradley.

With Thibs love of running the offense off the wings, I would have absolutely loved the Wolves finding a way to get Bradley to run the PG over Teague.

Bradley/Wiggins/Butler/Dieng/Towns would be menacing defensively.

That actually is a very intriguing idea. Bradley has enough ball handling distributing skills to work in a pinch. With Butler as the Primary I would be fine with Bradley as the secondary. Probably more menacing defensively with Gibson than Dieng. Too late now of course, but cool idea.


The whole reason they are trading Bradley at all is to get the extra cap space they need to sign Paul George. Trading Bradley here does not do that for them.

I think you mean Hayward. Agreed there wasn't a likely way for them to trade Bradley to us and still clear the needed cap space. I'm just intrigued by the idea of Bradley at the PG for us.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1885 » by trevor0333 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:18 pm

shrink wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
trevor0333 wrote:
I like Morris but that is a steal for Bradley.

With Thibs love of running the offense off the wings, I would have absolutely loved the Wolves finding a way to get Bradley to run the PG over Teague.

Bradley/Wiggins/Butler/Dieng/Towns would be menacing defensively.

That actually is a very intriguing idea. Bradley has enough ball handling distributing skills to work in a pinch. With Butler as the Primary I would be fine with Bradley as the secondary. Probably more menacing defensively with Gibson than Dieng. Too late now of course, but cool idea.


The whole reason they are trading Bradley at all is to get the extra cap space they need to sign Paul George. Trading Bradley here does not do that for them.


Had the Wolves not tied up cap space to Teague they would have been in a position to so though. How funny would it have been to use the 1st round pick from Utah to trade for Bradley and absorb him into their cap space allowing the Celtics to sign Hayward away from Utah. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now the Wolves have Bradley/Wiggins/Butler/Towns/Dieng with significant cap space to fill out the back end of the roster this year.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1886 » by TheProdigy » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:36 pm

It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1887 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:39 pm

DaKidKG wrote:It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.

That seems like a reasonable compromise. I even think that Indi would do it. Or what if we give them a second round pick instead.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1888 » by Oriole8159 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:46 pm

DaKidKG wrote:It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.


that's better, or how about the rights to Ike Anigbogu instead of the 2nd?
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1889 » by SBM » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:46 pm

Bradley is a good SG but he does not have the ability to run a team. When Thibs had Rose he was not running the team off the wings.
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Post#1890 » by SO_MONEY » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:48 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.

That seems like a reasonable compromise. I even think that Indi would do it. Or what if we give them a second round pick instead.
Doesn't seem like one to me. Any trading away of a First with Aldrich is a vast overpay. The standard is a 2nd for an expiring.



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Post#1891 » by TheProdigy » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:51 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.

That seems like a reasonable compromise. I even think that Indi would do it. Or what if we give them a second round pick instead.
Doesn't seem like one to me. Any trading away of a First with Aldrich is a vast overpay. The standard is a 2nd for an expiring.



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Even if it's only a trade down of say 10 spots?
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1892 » by trevor0333 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 5:53 pm

DaKidKG wrote:It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.


After the Butler trade, the Wolves don't have many assets other than their "core" and are now capped out. After this season Aldrich's final year is not fully guaranteed making it attractive in trade options for matching salary in trades. The pick can then be used in addition to the contract to acquire a good player. Players from the back end of the draft can be great depth on a capped out team.

This season isn't so make n break that a taking a hit on the quality of depth that I believe its not worth trading away that pick.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1893 » by shrink » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:12 pm

I think I mentioned it already, but if I didn't, remember that Aldrich's contract is a mechanism we can use to add 2018 salary.

For example, suppose a win-later team has a mediocre contract at the deadline, and would like to add cap space for 2018. They may be very interested in trading a two year deal for Aldrich, with the end goal of waiving Aldridge. In PHX, Jared Dudley makes $10 mil this year and $9.6 mil in 2018. If they swapped him for Aldrich, they would get Cole plus a TPE for $2.7 mil this season, and next season they decline the team option, and are only responsible for $2 mil, adding $7.6 mil in cap space for 2018. MIN shouldn't mind the extra salary in 2018 either, because they are already over the cap, and I assume under the lux for that season.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1894 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:16 pm

SBM wrote:Bradley is a good SG but he does not have the ability to run a team. When Thibs had Rose he was not running the team off the wings.

Bradley used to play PG for the Celtics and wasn't very good at it, but as a secondary ball handler behind Butler his ball skills IMO would be plenty sufficient.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1895 » by trevor0333 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:16 pm

shrink wrote:I think I mentioned it already, but if I didn't, remember that Aldrich's contract is a mechanism we can use to add 2018 salary.

For example, suppose a win-later team has a mediocre contract at the deadline, and would like to add cap space for 2018. They may be very interested in trading a two year deal for Aldrich, with the end goal of waiving Aldridge. In PHX, Jared Dudley makes $10 mil this year and $9.6 mil in 2018. If they swapped him for Aldrich, they would get Cole plus a TPE for $2.7 mil this season, and next season they decline the team option, and are only responsible for $2 mil, adding $7.6 mil in cap space for 2018. MIN shouldn't mind the extra salary in 2018 either, because they are already over the cap, and I assume under the lux for that season.


This is why I don't want to use a 1st to get rid of him this season. You wait one year and have a slightly worse bench.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1896 » by SBM » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:27 pm

Why stop now other than the cap. If the cap is the problem work around it. Wolves are really only six deep with quality NBA players.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1897 » by shrink » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:31 pm

SBM wrote:Why stop now other than the cap. If the cap is the problem work around it.

What are you proposing? I don't understand
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1898 » by theGreatRC » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:46 pm

DaKidKG wrote:It seems like this board is relatively split on whether we should trade the 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich for CJ Miles. I personally would not like that trade. That being said, I still think he would be a very good fit on our roster.

What if the Pacers were to include their 2018 2nd rd pick? The Pacers have lost a significant portion of their core this offseason, and may be looking at a rebuild. There is a very good chance that they will be one of the 10 worst teams in the league next season. OKC on the other hand looks very strong again with the Paul George acquisition. Very good chance they will be one of the 5-10 best teams in the league.

What do you guys think? We could basically be trading down 5 spots or as many as 20 spots.


I'd rather use the OKC 1st in some kind of combination to get Jae Crowder here.

Love his contract, versatility, he's friends with Jimmy & his age still fits well with the mix of guys we have.

Now that Bradley has been traded, I doubt Jae gets moved now, unless he wants out with the glut of forwards the team has.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1899 » by Biggsohnasty » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:45 pm

Crowder and Jimmy sure didn't look like friends during the playoffs this spring. I think Bradley getting traded kills the Crowder hope for Wolves fans. He's not available and why would Boston trade him at this point? They are in 'win now mode' with him and Hayward - they are just blessed to also have 'win later' guys in Tatum and Brown.

He isn't blocking those guys because you can play three of the four at the same time. He's on a great contract. He plays defense. He knocks down 3s. If Boston wants to trade him, I'm guessing they can get a lot more than a late 1st rounder for him.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#1900 » by prefuse73 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 5:03 pm

Ok offseason plan #51768

Trade Aldrich and Bjelica to Spurs for Danny Green.
- Saves us 1.7m and gives us our primary wing player who happens to be 3&D. Spurs, after signing Gay and likely bringing back Simmons, they could use some bigs.

Sign Tolliver, Thabo, Brooks (1 with our Room Exception and the others to vet min).

Keep Burton and either Beacham or Cooke (whoever looks to be the better shooter).

Let Patton take his time to heal and spend rest of the time in D League.

Primary Rotation
Towns - Dieng
Gibson - Dieng - Tolliver
Butler - Wiggins - Thabo
Wiggins - Green
Teague - Jones

DNPs
Brooks (similar to Rush when LaVine went down, won't play much unless Teague is hurt and would start in that case)
Burton
Beacham (or Cooke)
Patton (Injury - G League)

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